Neighbour Trouble

LegacyUser

My neighbour is 27 and honestly a bit of a knacker- she drinks a lot, swears in every sentence, smokes like a tree, will punch someone for looking at her wrong(ya know the kind im talking about)

Ive 23 , have lived beside her for a year and no problems until last month, at 11pm one saturday night her boyfriend(also a chav/knacker type- and no im not bein racist im tryin to give an idea of the kinda person i mean) Anyway he called to the door LANGERS and kept saying "Sorry baby i forgot my key" I told him he had the wrong house and he laughed and winked and said "Sorry girl" and went off

That was that

1.30am a brick came flying through my bedroom window and hit me in the foot and woke me up, I was like WTF!!!!!! Looked out the window and my neighbor was standing there screaming "Get down here u bitch ill teach you to try shag my man"

I did nothing wrong so I went downstairs to see what the hell was going on. Her and her bf were standing in my garden (At this stage a few curtains were twitching) He kept saying"Its over its over" and she punched me right in the face and I was knocked unconcious.

Next thing i remember waking up in hospital with my dad beside me. My neighbour had seen her bf walk out my gate and confronted him and he had told her(as a joke i assume) that id tried to get him into bed. My neighbour was arrested for assault and I assumed that would be the end of things.

Since then someone burned all the grass in my garden when i was at work, shoved dog crap in my letterbox,Someone spraypainted "RAT" on my car car(While in was IN THE CAR PARK at work) Then this afternoon i come home to find a BUTCHER KNIFE embedded in my wooden back door.

I have confronted my neighbour and she said "**** off its not me" and at the time of two of these incidents she was in London(So if she was behind it she was getting someone else to do it) I find it weird that until the incident with her BF i had no trouble with anything like whats going on now

Police wont help me cos ive no proof
Neighbours wont help cos her family is dangerous

denhaagenite

Move. It's your only option.

humanji

Install a security camera.

r3nu4l

Try buying a CCTV system, keep it hidden and discreetly record what's happening. Find out if the Gardaí can use it as evidence.
Contact a solicitor, see what they suggest
Move.

These are your options, which is easiest for you is your decision.

Ruu_Old

Get some security lights, CCTV and the rest of the neighbours on your side. Power in numbers will help in the future.

mikemac

imworried wrote: »

Ive 23 , have lived beside her for a year and no problems until last month, at 11pm one saturday night her boyfriend(also a chav/knacker type- and no im not bein racist im tryin to give an idea of the kinda person i mean)

Are they foreign?
As if they are Irish and white but just plain knackers how can you be racist against them?

muppetkiller

CCTV cameras or ask the neighbours have they seen anyone lurking about ??

tbh

oh my god OP, that's a horrible situation and I'm so angry the police won't help you. Is the house hers, or is she a council tennent - could you complain to them? If not, realistically, I would say your best bet is to move. No-one likes being bullied out of somewhere, but she sounds like she's not operating in the same reality as you - no respect for the law - basic scumbag - so you can't beat her at her own game. There's no point in putting up with months of it, who needs that hassle?

My advice would be to move on this quickly. Don't hope it will go away. Go to your citizens advice and check out all of your options. If it looks like there will be nothing you can do, think about moving. Although hopefully before that happens, her karma will catch up with her.

martian1980

There's no way the neighbours will side with you if there's a chance they'll be intimidated. People like your neighbour have nothing on their minds except how to rise to a situation like this, and they'll see the security cameras a some kind of challenge. You could turn your house into a fortress and still not be safe. They can intimidate you in so many ways without the gardai doing anything. The gardai don't want to be involved with anything like this. Move is the only option

swordsgal27

are you having a laugh ????
I not then sorry the only language she will understand is the same , or you could always call in nice as pie and say ,listen i just wanna let you know that your b/f has the clap , and the reason that i know is because he gave it to my german shepard get rid of him and you,l have just her to deal with

ballooba

Can you move?

Gordon

swordsgal27 wrote: »

are you having a laugh ????
I not then sorry the only language she will understand is the same , or you could always call in nice as pie and say ,listen i just wanna let you know that your b/f has the clap , and the reason that i know is because he gave it to my german shepard get rid of him and you,l have just her to deal with

That's really not going to help swordsgal27. Not at all.

LegacyUser

ballooba wrote: »

Can you move?

Well i got this house in my Aunts will but it was on the condition that I live in it so If i move ill get nothing, The house will be given to the next of kin and ill have nothing

muletide

swordsgal27 wrote: »

are you having a laugh ????
I not then sorry the only language she will understand is the same , or you could always call in nice as pie and say ,listen i just wanna let you know that your b/f has the clap , and the reason that i know is because he gave it to my german shepard get rid of him and you,l have just her to deal with

What sort of sh1te is that - are you a bit simple.

OP Move, its the quickest and easiest way to deal with it. CCTV, Solicitors and all that craic will just take too long

biko

She has experience, being like that all her life, whereas you don't know how to act.

Find out your tenant rights.
Try to video/CCTV everything that happens around your house.
You can force a filmed confrontation but that's not a recommendation.

The problem is that her relations and friends are probably just as unforgiving as her and won't hesitate keying your car, etc, etc...

Fight or flight. Get the rest of the neighbours on your side, like Ruu said.
Many angry sheep can scare a wolf away.

Btw, when she goes to court for assaulting you, ask you solicitor bring these things up? Interfering with a witness/ongoing investigation is a crime too.

swordsgal27

muletide wrote: »

What sort of sh1te is that - are you a bit simple.


Simple , NO experienced with **** like this YEAH , OP dont let anyone run you out of your home , police or the same language ! and muletide the dog bit was a bit of humour , helps to have that in scary situations best of luck with it OP ,

martian1980

No offence swordsgal, but your approach only has a chance if the OP is a knacker too. OP, you can spend money on CCTV and whatever else, but that won't stop your neighbour wrecking your car in the work carpark, or following you up the road and assaulting you there. The only other thing you could do is get onto your local TD, but realistically, you can't do much. What will the police do if the neighbour (or neighbours' mate) wears a balaclava or a hoodie? the video evidence isn't worth anything then, and in that case it's your word against theirs. The neighbours just won't want to get involved and risk the same thing happening them or endangering their kids

Barlow07

denhaagenite wrote: »

Move. It's your only option.

Agreed
If you consider what happened the first time getting knocked unconcious and ending up in hospital, i would consider that a lucky escape. Your only 23yrs old, do you really need all this agro and hassle in your life? The sensible option is to leave and move on.

LegacyUser

I answered but it didnt come up

I got my house in my Aunts will under the condition I dont sell up and I live there

So if i move i lose everything

dar_cool

Moving is not the right thing to do,letting this scumbag win
Are you living on your own? Maybe ask some friends to move in with or something,
I hate this kinda ****e,sorry to hear that by the way!!

Irish_Nomad

Since you have no evidence that your neighbour is doing this there is another possibility that you need to consider, unpleasant though it is.

From what you said someone else stands to inherit the house if you move out so they could be trying to force you to leave. You might find this unthinkable but people have done all kind of things for money and I imagine the house is worth a substantial sum. The likelihood increases if this person expected the house to be left to them in the first place so they may feel you have somehow cheated them and feel justified in doing anything to rectify the situation.

4Xcut

I can't suggest what i would like to. I don't think i'm alone in this. That is all.

TestTransmission

Do they own the house or are they renting?

martian1980

dar_cool wrote: »

Moving is not the right thing to do,letting this scumbag win
Are you living on your own? Maybe ask some friends to move in with or something,
I hate this kinda ****e,sorry to hear that by the way!!

hmmm... "Hi, friends! would you like to move in with me? There's this total knacker next door who has wrecked my garden, put poo in the letterbox, a brick in the window and assaulted me! Come on over!"

mel123

My aunt had a similar situation with her neighbours sons/daughters, and i wouldnt mind the woman who was actually her neighbour was elderly and all she did as be nice to her, bring her shopping etc, but the sons and daughters all of a sudden took a dislike to her.
She installed CCTV, she got this company, dont know the name of them, but they 'disguise' themselves as ESB workers type thing and they installed a camera on a lampost for her - it didnt look like a camera. Once she has some evidence the police helped and eventually it all stopped.
I wouldnt let these scumbags run you out of ur own house, no way. I know its easy for us to say, we are not the ones in the situation, but i think CCTV is the way to go for you. If its any help i noticed LIDL or ALDI recently had security cameras for sale.

Toots

I'd recommend CCTV and lots of security lights. At least then you'll know more about who's doing it. I'd also get a monitored alarm system like Phonewatch installed, it you haven't already. They've got a panic button system where you can press for fire brigade, ambulance, or police, and aside from the main panel inside your front door, you can get a little portable one that you can put in your bedroom or living room or whatever so you can get to it easily. Also see does the carpark at work have CCTV, you might be able to get something from it to bring to the Guards.

Also can your neighbour prove she was in london at the times she says she was? She could have just stayed at a mates and then come round when you were out and vandalised your house.

shinny

jackncoke wrote: »

Do they own the house or are they renting?

I was going to ask this too. I'd say she's a "living off the state" kind and probably is renting.

OP, I'm so sorry to hear this. You poor thing. I had a small incident with my former neighbours. Generally loud music at all hours of the night, things like that. I rang their landlord directly and told him I wouldn't tolerate this. He had words, never heard a peep out of them again.

This would be great if they are renting. Get the Landlord on side and kick them out.

If they own the place, then not so many options. You can't move, so CCTV security cameras is one option.

Really, this makes me so angry. Scum of the earth.

McSween

i really despair at the police force in this country. they need proof? it sounds to me as if they are afraid themselves. you were put in hospital, and various other incidents and they STILL won't do anything.

i think if it was me i'd get out of there, i like peace and quiet, that would come before money any day.

really hope it works out for you, nobody deserves that treatment

tbh

McSween wrote: »

i really despair at the police force in this country. they need proof? it sounds to me as if they are afraid themselves. you were put in hospital, and various other incidents and they STILL won't do anything.

i think if it was me i'd get out of there, i like peace and quiet, that would come before money any day.

really hope it works out for you, nobody deserves that treatment

ah now in fairness, I'd guess that most of the cops in this country would sort this problem out the old-fashioned way if they were allowed.

StandnDeliver

Get a Dog,get a few signs saying smile your on cctv, and trespassers will be prosecuted.Or if you dont want a dog,get a recording of a dog barking.
I do think getting cctv as others said is a good idea.I would blatantly get toy camera and place them inside you upstairs windows pointing in various directions,garden,doors,back door.They may think twice about it.

b3t4

My suggestions
1) CCTV, least you know you've something to bring to the gardai.
2) Get the loan of a large dog.
3) If you have friends who are male and well built have them call around on a fairly regular basis. There is no intention of them causing any physical harm or threatening it but their presense may make you seem less of a target.
4) Approach the gardai and ask them would they be able to pass by your premises in their car. It should only be for a short period of time till these yokes find someone else to focus their hatred on. I've heard of gardai doing this in the country but I'm not sure if they'd be as open to the idea in cities.

It's an awful situation to be in and I know how frustrating it can be when you go to the gardai and they can't do anything for you due to lack of evidence.

A

Shelli

Irish_Nomad wrote: »

Since you have no evidence that your neighbour is doing this there is another possibility that you need to consider, unpleasant though it is.

From what you said someone else stands to inherit the house if you move out so they could be trying to force you to leave. You might find this unthinkable but people have done all kind of things for money and I imagine the house is worth a substantial sum. The likelihood increases if this person expected the house to be left to them in the first place so they may feel you have somehow cheated them and feel justified in doing anything to rectify the situation.

I was just thinking something like that, if someone hoping she will leave the house is using this situation to scare her, because of course everyone is just going to assume it's the neighbour who she had a run in with.

Get CCTV and see who/what is going on.

Also, is there any chance she has a previous record (with a temper like hers she very probably has), if she does there's a good chance she'll get jail time........fingers crossed.

Zzippy

imworried wrote: »

Police wont help me cos ive no proof

WTF? Is the brick through the window, and her punching you not enough proof? Whatever about the rest, she should have been charged with assault for that. I would pursue this with the police/gardai (are you in ROI?) - if they won't do anything ask to speak to a senior officer and complain

Mutz

Is the house rented by that nighmare? you could make a complaint to the social housing department. Or you could fight fire with fire

meglome

Unfortunately scum like this sometimes only understand one thing but then I'd never advocate violence. :rolleyes:

Get yourself a hidden cctv camera off the internet and video what's happening. Much better if it's hidden as you don't want to tip anyone off or make matters worse. Don't tell anyone/very few you've done this just in case it is someone trying to get the house and not your neighbour at all. Once you see who's doing this then you can decide what to do next.

whiskeyman

I feel for you OP.
What the hell has happened with respect these days.
No one should be going through the torture you're going through.
Do you mind if I ask what part of city you live in?

ballooba

dar_cool wrote: »

Moving is not the right thing to do,letting this scumbag win
Are you living on your own? Maybe ask some friends to move in with or something,
I hate this kinda ****e,sorry to hear that by the way!!

The OP has said she can't move. On the wider point though, I live by the rule "Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". I'd be getting out of dodge if it were at all possible.

Mazeire

There would be no point in moving OP. As you have said (and i don't mean to freak you out), they have followed you to work so chances are it would follow you even if you did leave your home. I would suggest:

1: Have a look at the security tapes from your companies car park for the day your car was vandalised.
2: Get a restraining order out against your neighbour and her boyfriend and (assuming it was someone separate) whoever vandalised your car. The assault should be grounds enough for this.
3:Install CCTV at you home. Keep careful records and if anything else happens, report it to the gardai ASAP, and, if she is renting show the tapes to the council or her landlord.

LegacyUser

+1 to CCTV, restraining order etc.

Might be an idea to see a lawyer about the will, surely your aunt wouldn't want you living in this situation? Even if you could rent it out for 6 months while the CCTV, restraining order etc is going on might help you. See a solicitor.

D-Generate

<SNIP> Less of that

LegacyUser

whiskeyman wrote: »

Do you mind if I ask what part of city you livE IN?

I dont live in a city i live in wexford

LegacyUser

Mazeire wrote: »

1: Have a look at the security tapes from your companies car park for the day your car was vandalised.

I asked my boss for them, he says he doesnt have them that they were sent to the main office in Belfast and that If I wanted to call and request them i could but he doubts they will give me it

Mazeire

imworried wrote: »

I asked my boss for them, he says he doesnt have them that they were sent to the main office in Belfast and that If I wanted to call and request them i could but he doubts they will give me it

Report it to the police then your company will be legally required to hand them over.

LegacyUser

Sorry to hear the crap u have to go tru, I know wat its like, have live beside a family like dat for 5 years, wasn't so bad until the kids got to school going age. Anyway we were terrorised in a similar way, but my family would be confrontational so we had to sort it out before it got us in trouble. Basically they had social services defending them everytime we'd complain to the council, in the end 2 or 3 other neighbours complained. I wont go into all the detail as you never know who'd be readin!
If you are dealing with the council, keep a diary of every incident that happens, note the time, date, and details. also take pictures of the incidents, you must keep on calling the council or the guards, it's the only way if your getting no joy at the moment, find out the housing liason officers name and email addresss and keep them informed,if your persistently calling they'll have to do something and you will have your evidence as back up. Best of Luck, hope it gets better...

LegacyUser

So, on top of it all you've got a pig of a boss.

Keep on at the Guards, don't take no for an answer. You are being harassed, it is their job to stop it.

nmk

On top of documenting your neighbours harassment, keep notes of each time you approach the guards reporting an incidence and let them know you are doing so. Ask them if they've written it into their book (better still get a reference number for your complaint). Ask how they intend to deal with the complaint. If they say that there's nothing they can do, ask them on what grounds and ask for their name and garda number. These things can disappear if the guards are reluctant to deal with it. They are more likely to take it seriously if you appear rational and reasonable and competent to take important details regarding them and their behaviour towards criminal activity. You are the victim of a crime and do not feel safe in your own home and place of work. The guards are there to protect us and keep the peace. Sometimes they need reminding of this I would agree the suggestion of cctv and definitely don't approach your neighbours yourself.

chuci

if she is just a tenant then get onto the landlord or the council report her. though that in turn could even bring more agro. i suppose a cctv of some sort would be best keep a diary of what is going on if she is brought to court your representative should be able to bring this up. your neighbours wont join forces with you either. this stuff really pisses me off one of our old neighbours who thankfully moved away her son was a drug dealer and there was agro every bloody night of the week.but luckily our neighbours united finally sorted it out. you could try rally around the neighbours but again they prob have children etc and dont want to take the risk.
best of luck

paul666

This may have been mentioned before but it is important to keep a diary of all the things that have happened.

Toots

JoJoe90 wrote: »

+1 to CCTV, restraining order etc.

Might be an idea to see a lawyer about the will, surely your aunt wouldn't want you living in this situation? Even if you could rent it out for 6 months while the CCTV, restraining order etc is going on might help you. See a solicitor.

+1, also if you see a solicitor, just make sure there isn't anything you should watch out for as regards putting up CCTV cameras, like if they're filming your neighbours property, or whether they can only film on your property. You don't want to get yourself into trouble over something small like that.