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Emailing Contact List and Junk

  • 05-02-2008 11:38am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I have an contact list of over 1,000 emails. I'm sending a monthly newsletter automatically with a php script. I estimate about 10% of the emails are going into peoples junk boxes. Is there anything I can do from my end to stop this..?

    Thanks...


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭di11on


    Sounds like their junk mail filtering is working nicely then :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chief_stains


    I know - nightmare - but the thing is its the people whos filters are working that are screaming for the freakin mail!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭di11on


    Typical!!

    I'd be interested to see the replies as I'd like to do something similar myself.

    I suppose it would be a matter of people telling their email client to not treat email from you as junk... I don't imaging there's much you can do at your end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Just check your email headers perhaps. If you check Google, I'm sure there are certain headers you can add/modify to make your mail look a little less like a mail shot.

    Many newsletters do get caught by junk filters though, junk filters aren't just for pure spam. It's really the recipient's problem if the mail they want is going into their junk folder. "You may need to configure your junk mail settings to whitelist myaddress@mydomain.com" is all you need to respond with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    What format is the email in?

    Where is the email being sent from? ie. clean Irish IP or potentially tainted US IP

    Do you have SPF records setup for your domain?

    Is the mail being sent using sendmail with the -f switch?

    Are you using Javascript in the email?

    Are you seeing more mail being blocked by Hotmail than other receivers?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chief_stains


    What format is the email in? Its a html email

    Where is the email being sent from? ie. clean Irish IP or potentially tainted US IP: Not Irish or US and not tainted to my knowledge

    Do you have SPF records setup for your domain? Not at the moment

    Is the mail being sent using sendmail with the -f switch? its actually in ASP at the moment, sorry, will be PHP soon

    Are you using Javascript in the email? No

    Are you seeing more mail being blocked by Hotmail than other receivers? No, lots of differnet ones


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    What format is the email in? Its a html email

    That could be part of the problem depending on the html formatting
    Where is the email being sent from? ie. clean Irish IP or potentially tainted US IP: Not Irish or US and not tainted to my knowledge

    You might want to check that
    Do you have SPF records setup for your domain? Not at the moment
    They're not hard to setup. More on them here: http://www.mneylon.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?IncludeBlogs=12&search=spf
    Is the mail being sent using sendmail with the -f switch? its actually in ASP at the moment, sorry, will be PHP soon
    Sorry. The key thing here is how the mail is seen in terms of the sender. A lot of mail servers will treat mails from server scripts as being dodgy ...
    Are you using Javascript in the email? No

    Good :)
    Are you seeing more mail being blocked by Hotmail than other receivers? No, lots of differnet ones

    Like who?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chief_stains


    Checked the headers from a test into gmail...
    Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 111.222.333.444 is neither permitted
     nor denied by best guess record for domain of info@******.net)
    

    Most of the domains that were junking the mail were not Hotmail or Gmail, in fact I don't think any of them were.

    I have a feeling the it is being stopped for the content in the mail. A lot of it is financial/investment information. This would trigger the spam filter, wouldn't it..?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭mneylon


    You're better off setting up spf etc., if you can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chief_stains


    ok, thanks for the help...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Also, I'm not sure what your script is doing, but if you can configure it to send directly to each email address (i.e. one email per address) as opposed to sending it to a mailing list or BCCing 1,000 people, then that can improve your chances too.

    Check with your host/ISP before this about their policy on such things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭chief_stains


    yeah, the script is a loop through a database of the emails... it selects one email add. and sends the mail to it, so its only one address per mail....

    i'll play around with all the suggestions and see if it improves it... thanks for the help/time lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭colm_c


    I know with campaign monitor - www.campaignmonitor.com - a newsletter sending platform - they have a spam checker which allows you to run your email through it and checks for keywords etc. that might be considered spam, before sending it out.

    You might be able to find something that does this on it's own.

    Sidenote: I would have thought using some pre-built software was a lot easier and more reliable than rolling your own asp script?


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