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My experience using a ouija board..

  • 03-02-2008 5:51pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 290 ✭✭


    It was a friday night... scored a nice 5g bag of weed.. rolled a few joints and someone threw the idea out of playing it..

    Wrote out the letters on pieces of paper and put them in a circle on the floor with a glass in the middle.

    5 of us started playing and couldn't stop laughing at the ridiculous chant we were saying to make it work.. finally after a minute or so the glass started to move.

    We asked it a few questions:
    1) Do you like us because we're high ---> No
    2) Do you like us because we're good people ---> Yes

    then it kinda stopped working so we gave up and rolled a few more.

    the next one was fun :D
    Questions went as follows:
    1) Are you a good spirit ---> Yes
    2) Do you like us ----> No
    3) Were you murdered ----> Yes
    4) Are you in pain ----> Yes

    then it started moving the glass really fast from corner to corner... one of the girls got scared so we asked to leave and left the game.

    We played it for 2 nights after that with some other experiences with supposedly dead relatives talking to a few people.

    Ive read alot of **** about how Ouija boards are evil and u should never try them.. nothing bad happened.. noone got possessed.. it was just fun.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    Tak3n wrote: »

    the next one was fun :D
    Questions went as follows:
    1) Are you a good spirit ---> Yes
    2) Do you like us ----> No
    3) Were you murdered ----> Yes
    4) Are you in pain ----> Yes

    Ive read alot of **** about how Ouija boards are evil and u should never try them.. nothing bad happened.. noone got possessed.. it was just fun.[/QUOTE]

    I know nothing about Ouija Boards and have no intention of ever finding out but the bits I've highlighted from your post above just scream out at me that it is just wrong:(.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 290 ✭✭Tak3n


    littlebug wrote: »
    Tak3n wrote: »

    the next one was fun :D
    Questions went as follows:
    1) Are you a good spirit ---> Yes
    2) Do you like us ----> No
    3) Were you murdered ----> Yes
    4) Are you in pain ----> Yes

    Ive read alot of **** about how Ouija boards are evil and u should never try them.. nothing bad happened.. noone got possessed.. it was just fun.[/QUOTE]

    I know nothing about Ouija Boards and have no intention of ever finding out but the bits I've highlighted from your post above just scream out at me that it is just wrong:(.


    The fun bit was when the glass went crazy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    If it was a real spirit and not one of your stoned mates taking the piss, its hard to see how it was fun given the responses you got. Do you not find it a bit worring?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 290 ✭✭Tak3n


    jimbo78 wrote: »
    If it was a real spirit and not one of your stoned mates taking the piss, its hard to see how it was fun given the responses you got. Do you not find it a bit worring?

    Took nothing it said seriously... for all i know it was just some spirit/whatever trying to scare us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭sing_dumb


    Years ago, when I was doing my Leaving Cert, we had an "Ultra-modern" Priest, as Chaplain to the school. He was Fr Dermot, and he was brilliant, really easy to speak to, about anything.
    We had a fellow Student, a 17year old, half-French, half-Irish, brilliant, much-loved (especially by ALL females, within a 10-mile radius) lad with us, called Jean-Paul. One year, we put on a great play, called..."The Importance of Being Earnest", wherein Jean Paul, played a starring role. He became totally adored by everyone, after this, and he enjoyed it all, every bit of it.

    Then, about 4 weeks later, Jean Paul, hung himself. In the school grounds, (where ...Jasus..myself and 4 other mates...we found him), no suicide note, no word for his parents, not a damn thing. 2 Days after his 17th birthday. Yeah, it was really rough.

    Two years later, we (All 5 of us who had found...Jean-Paul hanging and a few more!!) assembled around a Oujia Board, secretly, in the School Library, with the express, deliberate intention, of contacting Jean Paul. To cut a long story short...Yes, we DID contact him...and...he said he was in... Hell. Agh, the whole experience was ugly, awful, regrettable. But, one we kept repeating, crouched around...the Oujia Board. Until...one day...Fr Dermot caught us, red-handed...and he burst in like a mad man!! He literally flung the Ouija Board out the window, he was screaming, frothing at the mouth...really upset, and he assured us...that we were ALL doomed,cursed, allied to Satan, and then ...he calmly informed, by phone, our parents, that we were involved in Satanism. Which, as you can imagine, thrilled our parents.

    We were then.. ALL ...blessed, re-consecrated, made to re-new our Confirmation Vows...all sorts of Holy Catholic things!!! It was all horrendous, totally awful. I was 16 years old, then, and I simply did not understand most of it.

    Now, years later....I can honestly say...Fr Dermot's antics...were not OTT. Dabbling in the Occult...brings HUGE...AWFUL...LONG TERM results. Even, years , and years, later.

    For a start, I am the ONLY one, of that group of 5 youngsters, still alive.

    Hughie died in a ghastly fire, identified ONLY by his signet ring. Jimmy, achieved much, but died, leaving Millions, in his late 20's of bone-cancer, yet totally alone, and very lonely, in America. Tom was killed in a horrific car crash, and Phillip, my great, lovely, wonderful mate, a great, huge, massively profitable, Success Story.. (think...baguettes.....!)one day.. pulled the hose from his Mam's oul' washing machine, and died of cyanide poisoning later that night, in his own car, in a Public Park, by suicide.

    Yeah, I lived.

    But, my own, eldest, first-born beautiful, blonde haired, blue-eyed, child, died VERY suddenly, aged 8 years of age, from a freak, one-in-a-million, STROKE!!! The Doc's could never explain it.

    Co-incidence? Or...what? Who knows??

    I can still see Fr Dermot screaming..."You's are ALL doomed"!!!! "What have Yiz done. May the Lord protect yiz"!!!

    Obviously, the Lord was out that day, and Satan won!!!

    I've since returned to Catholicism. I went to Medujordie in 2004. I ...really did...see.. the Sun "Dance". I found a Blessed peace there. I got involved with a group helping desperately poor, old people, out in Bosnia. I've been back...twice, every year , since. Hoping, always hoping....that I've bought my soul...back from Satan. And, that GOD..has maybe...forgiven me. It's not easy.

    DO NOT...dabble in the OCCULT..or the Oiuja Board. You will only CALL UP forces...that are FAR stronger than you. Never, ever, invite SATAN into your life. Be aware...that there is a HUGE PRICE to pay....for SIN. Also ..be aware...YOU WILL pay it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    My brain and my mouth are unconnected. That is why noone likes me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    sing_dumb wrote: »
    Years ago, when I was doing my Leaving Cert, we had an "Ultra-modern" Priest, as Chaplain to the school. He was Fr Dermot, and he was brilliant, really easy to speak to, about anything.
    We had a fellow Student, a 17year old, half-French, half-Irish, brilliant, much-loved (especially by ALL females, within a 10-mile radius) lad with us, called Jean-Paul. One year, we put on a great play, called..."The Importance of Being Earnest", wherein Jean Paul, played a starring role. He became totally adored by everyone, after this, and he enjoyed it all, every bit of it.

    Then, about 4 weeks later, Jean Paul, hung himself. In the school grounds, (where ...Jasus..myself and 4 other mates...we found him), no suicide note, no word for his parents, not a damn thing. 2 Days after his 17th birthday. Yeah, it was really rough.

    Two years later, we (All 5 of us who had found...Jean-Paul hanging and a few more!!) assembled around a Oujia Board, secretly, in the School Library, with the express, deliberate intention, of contacting Jean Paul. To cut a long story short...Yes, we DID contact him...and...he said he was in... Hell. Agh, the whole experience was ugly, awful, regrettable. But, one we kept repeating, crouched around...the Oujia Board. Until...one day...Fr Dermot caught us, red-handed...and he burst in like a mad man!! He literally flung the Ouija Board out the window, he was screaming, frothing at the mouth...really upset, and he assured us...that we were ALL doomed,cursed, allied to Satan, and then ...he calmly informed, by phone, our parents, that we were involved in Satanism. Which, as you can imagine, thrilled our parents.

    We were then.. ALL ...blessed, re-consecrated, made to re-new our Confirmation Vows...all sorts of Holy Catholic things!!! It was all horrendous, totally awful. I was 16 years old, then, and I simply did not understand most of it.

    Now, years later....I can honestly say...Fr Dermot's antics...were not OTT. Dabbling in the Occult...brings HUGE...AWFUL...LONG TERM results. Even, years , and years, later.

    For a start, I am the ONLY one, of that group of 5 youngsters, still alive.

    Hughie died in a ghastly fire, identified ONLY by his signet ring. Jimmy, achieved much, but died, leaving Millions, in his late 20's of bone-cancer, yet totally alone, and very lonely, in America. Tom was killed in a horrific car crash, and Phillip, my great, lovely, wonderful mate, a great, huge, massively profitable, Success Story.. (think...baguettes.....!)one day.. pulled the hose from his Mam's oul' washing machine, and died of cyanide poisoning later that night, in his own car, in a Public Park, by suicide.

    Yeah, I lived.

    But, my own, eldest, first-born beautiful, blonde haired, blue-eyed, child, died VERY suddenly, aged 8 years of age, from a freak, one-in-a-million, STROKE!!! The Doc's could never explain it.

    Co-incidence? Or...what? Who knows??

    I can still see Fr Dermot screaming..."You's are ALL doomed"!!!! "What have Yiz done. May the Lord protect yiz"!!!

    Obviously, the Lord was out that day, and Satan won!!!

    I've since returned to Catholicism. I went to Medujordie in 2004. I ...really did...see.. the Sun "Dance". I found a Blessed peace there. I got involved with a group helping desperately poor, old people, out in Bosnia. I've been back...twice, every year , since. Hoping, always hoping....that I've bought my soul...back from Satan. And, that GOD..has maybe...forgiven me. It's not easy.

    DO NOT...dabble in the OCCULT..or the Oiuja Board. You will only CALL UP forces...that are FAR stronger than you. Never, ever, invite SATAN into your life. Be aware...that there is a HUGE PRICE to pay....for SIN. Also ..be aware...YOU WILL pay it.

    All I can think off is "If I don't forward this post to five other people by midnight, I'll be doomed too"

    OP, by you're own admission you were stoned, how reliable can you say your experiences are?

    Not meaning to go off topic, but I recently read a book where the author dismissed Ouija boards and explained how he had easily rigged them. Personally, I don't have a lot of time for them, I mean surly if a spirit wanted to contact you, there are easier ways than moving a glass or pointer around a table top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    sing_dumb wrote: »
    DO NOT...dabble in the OCCULT..or the Oiuja Board. You will only CALL UP forces...that are FAR stronger than you. Never, ever, invite SATAN into your life. Be aware...that there is a HUGE PRICE to pay....for SIN. Also ..be aware...YOU WILL pay it.

    Lmao: Ouija boards, Ireland's third highest cause of death. How do Ouija Boards invite Satan? Does he not have the power to come here himself? Your friends died of what appear to be fairly normal stuff, if Satan was behind them then why doesn't he do all this sort of stuff all the time? Why wouldn't God stop Satan? How exactly does using a Ouija Board give SATAN power over you?
    Tak3n wrote: »
    2) Do you like us because we're good people ---> Yes

    2) Do you like us ----> No

    In one conversation it said it didn't like you and that it liked you because you were good people...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    sing_dumb wrote: »
    Years ago, when I was doing my Leaving Cert, we had an "Ultra-modern" Priest, as Chaplain to the school. He was Fr Dermot, and he was brilliant, really easy to speak to, about anything.
    We had a fellow Student, a 17year old, half-French, half-Irish, brilliant, much-loved (especially by ALL females, within a 10-mile radius) lad with us, called Jean-Paul. One year, we put on a great play, called..."The Importance of Being Earnest", wherein Jean Paul, played a starring role. He became totally adored by everyone, after this, and he enjoyed it all, every bit of it.

    Then, about 4 weeks later, Jean Paul, hung himself. In the school grounds, (where ...Jasus..myself and 4 other mates...we found him), no suicide note, no word for his parents, not a damn thing. 2 Days after his 17th birthday. Yeah, it was really rough.

    Two years later, we (All 5 of us who had found...Jean-Paul hanging and a few more!!) assembled around a Oujia Board, secretly, in the School Library, with the express, deliberate intention, of contacting Jean Paul. To cut a long story short...Yes, we DID contact him...and...he said he was in... Hell. Agh, the whole experience was ugly, awful, regrettable. But, one we kept repeating, crouched around...the Oujia Board. Until...one day...Fr Dermot caught us, red-handed...and he burst in like a mad man!! He literally flung the Ouija Board out the window, he was screaming, frothing at the mouth...really upset, and he assured us...that we were ALL doomed,cursed, allied to Satan, and then ...he calmly informed, by phone, our parents, that we were involved in Satanism. Which, as you can imagine, thrilled our parents.

    We were then.. ALL ...blessed, re-consecrated, made to re-new our Confirmation Vows...all sorts of Holy Catholic things!!! It was all horrendous, totally awful. I was 16 years old, then, and I simply did not understand most of it.

    Now, years later....I can honestly say...Fr Dermot's antics...were not OTT. Dabbling in the Occult...brings HUGE...AWFUL...LONG TERM results. Even, years , and years, later.

    For a start, I am the ONLY one, of that group of 5 youngsters, still alive.

    Hughie died in a ghastly fire, identified ONLY by his signet ring. Jimmy, achieved much, but died, leaving Millions, in his late 20's of bone-cancer, yet totally alone, and very lonely, in America. Tom was killed in a horrific car crash, and Phillip, my great, lovely, wonderful mate, a great, huge, massively profitable, Success Story.. (think...baguettes.....!)one day.. pulled the hose from his Mam's oul' washing machine, and died of cyanide poisoning later that night, in his own car, in a Public Park, by suicide.

    Yeah, I lived.

    But, my own, eldest, first-born beautiful, blonde haired, blue-eyed, child, died VERY suddenly, aged 8 years of age, from a freak, one-in-a-million, STROKE!!! The Doc's could never explain it.

    Co-incidence? Or...what? Who knows??

    I can still see Fr Dermot screaming..."You's are ALL doomed"!!!! "What have Yiz done. May the Lord protect yiz"!!!

    Obviously, the Lord was out that day, and Satan won!!!

    I've since returned to Catholicism. I went to Medujordie in 2004. I ...really did...see.. the Sun "Dance". I found a Blessed peace there. I got involved with a group helping desperately poor, old people, out in Bosnia. I've been back...twice, every year , since. Hoping, always hoping....that I've bought my soul...back from Satan. And, that GOD..has maybe...forgiven me. It's not easy.

    DO NOT...dabble in the OCCULT..or the Oiuja Board. You will only CALL UP forces...that are FAR stronger than you. Never, ever, invite SATAN into your life. Be aware...that there is a HUGE PRICE to pay....for SIN. Also ..be aware...YOU WILL pay it.

    How very sad...... This is a good example of how dangerous religion can be when it's rammed into a young person's head. It has clearly f*cked you up to no end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    Sorry, I'm struggling to grasp the point of the OP. Is it a two fingers to all of those who believe in the power of the board/fear it etc?? Is it a statement of how daring and close to danger you go when you're stoned?? Is it meant to encourage others who've been hesitant before to try it (or equally, not to bother?). I'm not being smart I just don't understand your point, is all. If it's just a random account of your experience then that's fair enough, it just seems to be a little too blase or something.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    Gillo wrote: »
    All I can think off is "If I don't forward this post to five other people by midnight, I'll be doomed too"

    Ha ha. Springs to mind alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 383 ✭✭DILLIGAF


    pookie82 wrote: »
    Sorry, I'm struggling to grasp the point of the OP. Is it a two fingers to all of those who believe in the power of the board/fear it etc?? Is it a statement of how daring and close to danger you go when you're stoned?? Is it meant to encourage others who've been hesitant before to try it (or equally, not to bother?). I'm not being smart I just don't understand your point, is all. If it's just a random account of your experience then that's fair enough, it just seems to be a little too blase or something.


    the title kind of explains it all don't you think?

    thanks for sharing but still being somewhat skeptical of your situation OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    DaveMcG wrote: »
    How very sad...... This is a good example of how dangerous religion can be when it's rammed into a young person's head. It has clearly f*cked you up to no end.
    Mr McG - clearly if the poster of what you are commenting on is genuine in what he was saying then he doesn't need you telling him he's ****** up. He obviously has a lot of life problems and has been through a lot and sometimes it's easier to blame something on that rather than see it as a random sequence of events. (believe me I know this). I totally see your point etc but just think it's a bit harsh. (and before you give out to me, remember I voted for you :p )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭mossieh


    Derren Brown's book 'Tricks of the mind' has a section on these boards and how they really work. It's worth reading to avoid seeming foolish in the eyes of those who have already done so.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Not a bad idea to discuss this topic in this way, but I think the OP may be trying to goad some of us into a reaction by stating that talking to someone murdered was 'fun'. If this was a real person, thats a bit insensitive, but I get that the whole thing was treated it like some primitive xbox game.

    There are two ways of looking at the potential dangers here, and they would depend on your beliefs, really.

    You could be inviting something less than savoury into your life and conciousness, a bit like advertising a house party on My space, you could get any fcuker turning up and wreck your house. Its a bit careless.

    Or if its the case where any dangers are purely psychological, the whole episode could unsettle a sensitive mind. Plant the seed that 'satan' and his hordes were haunting them, or cause paranoia and fear about whats 'out there'.

    I havent read Derren Brown, its a book I keep meaning to get.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    You know if this thread was in the paranormal forum instead of AH ... oh wait

    Read the charter people, especially DaveMcG


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    KtK wrote: »
    Not a bad idea to discuss this topic in this way, but I think the OP may be trying to goad some of us into a reaction by stating that talking to someone murdered was 'fun'.
    I think the OP is refering to the experience itself being fun while remaining emotionally detached to the content of the messages. That aspect of it makes a lot of sense to me.

    (altough the other 'xboxy' elements wouldn't be to my personal taste)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    KtK wrote: »
    Not a bad idea to discuss this topic in this way, but I think the OP may be trying to goad some of us into a reaction by stating that talking to someone murdered was 'fun'.

    Ya that was my first reaction - that the OP was looking for someone to go "Whoa there, hang on a second, that's serious stuff you're dabbling with, how can you be so laid back???" etc.

    Sorry if I misunderstood.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Sorry steve.

    And helena :p


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,421 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I think the OP is refering to the experience itself being fun while remaining emotionally detached to the content of the messages. That aspect of it makes a lot of sense to me.

    (altough the other 'xboxy' elements wouldn't be to my personal taste)
    Good point steve. I confess I thought ouija was entertaining for a very brief time. And then it messed up my head. So thats why I personally am wary, and dont see it as a productive pastime.

    And I contact spirit in another way, and yes, it can be fun. So who am I to condemn.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    mossieh wrote: »
    Derren Brown's book 'Tricks of the mind' has a section on these boards and how they really work. It's worth reading to avoid seeming foolish in the eyes of those who have already done so.

    Even if you don't like Derren Brown, it's definitely worth a read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,314 ✭✭✭Talliesin


    Why don't people who are drunk or high and want to do something that's notoriously stupid to do cut the cable to a lamp, plug it in, and then play at making blue sparks arc between the two wires?

    That way if they have a good time sceptics won't doubt that there were indeed blue sparks there, and if it goes wrong there'll be much more consensus as to what happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭mossieh


    Talliesin wrote: »
    Why don't people who are drunk or high and want to do something that's notoriously stupid to do cut the cable to a lamp, plug it in, and then play at making blue sparks arc between the two wires?

    That way if they have a good time sceptics won't doubt that there were indeed blue sparks there, and if it goes wrong there'll be much more consensus as to what happened.

    Err, come again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,856 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    indeed...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Zillah wrote: »
    Lmao: Ouija boards, Ireland's third highest cause of death. How do Ouija Boards invite Satan? Does he not have the power to come here himself? Your friends died of what appear to be fairly normal stuff, if Satan was behind them then why doesn't he do all this sort of stuff all the time? Why wouldn't God stop Satan? How exactly does using a Ouija Board give SATAN power over you?

    I think the point is in relation to the forbidding of media to contact the dead. Deuteronomy 18.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Jakkass wrote: »
    I think the point is in relation to the forbidding of media to contact the dead. Deuteronomy 18.

    Ok so its forbidden, but again, uh, all those questions I asked. Why does using it give Satan power over you? Why would God allow him? Why can't Satan exercise such powers all the time?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    We believe Satan will be defeated when Christ returns. But in a world of free will given by God people are always going to be faced with choices the right or the wrong. C.S Lewis explains that God gave us free will as the most desirable state for mankind can be only attained through consenting worship in God, however he obviously thought it worth the risk that we would have to fight evil influences on earth in doing so.

    God has given us a Law that if taken seriously can lead to the desirable state (Jesus referred to this state as the Kingdom of God) that we are talking about. But while people disobey this law, and while people pull away from God, there will always be a temptation in society to do so. By defying God's law (which is the protection from what is truly evil), you are allowing yourself to be vulnerable to evil influences, whereas if you keep to these rules, you will be able to guard against these evil influences. That is the Christian interpretation, of course I'm leaving the decision entirely up to you on how summoning media is or is not evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    sing_dumb wrote: »
    Years ago, when I was doing my Leaving Cert, we had an "Ultra-modern" Priest, as Chaplain to the school. He was Fr Dermot, and he was brilliant, really easy to speak to, about anything.
    We had a fellow Student, a 17year old, half-French, half-Irish, brilliant, much-loved (especially by ALL females, within a 10-mile radius) lad with us, called Jean-Paul. One year, we put on a great play, called..."The Importance of Being Earnest", wherein Jean Paul, played a starring role. He became totally adored by everyone, after this, and he enjoyed it all, every bit of it.

    Then, about 4 weeks later, Jean Paul, hung himself. In the school grounds, (where ...Jasus..myself and 4 other mates...we found him), no suicide note, no word for his parents, not a damn thing. 2 Days after his 17th birthday. Yeah, it was really rough.

    Two years later, we (All 5 of us who had found...Jean-Paul hanging and a few more!!) assembled around a Oujia Board, secretly, in the School Library, with the express, deliberate intention, of contacting Jean Paul. To cut a long story short...Yes, we DID contact him...and...he said he was in... Hell. Agh, the whole experience was ugly, awful, regrettable. But, one we kept repeating, crouched around...the Oujia Board. Until...one day...Fr Dermot caught us, red-handed...and he burst in like a mad man!! He literally flung the Ouija Board out the window, he was screaming, frothing at the mouth...really upset, and he assured us...that we were ALL doomed,cursed, allied to Satan, and then ...he calmly informed, by phone, our parents, that we were involved in Satanism. Which, as you can imagine, thrilled our parents.

    We were then.. ALL ...blessed, re-consecrated, made to re-new our Confirmation Vows...all sorts of Holy Catholic things!!! It was all horrendous, totally awful. I was 16 years old, then, and I simply did not understand most of it.

    Now, years later....I can honestly say...Fr Dermot's antics...were not OTT. Dabbling in the Occult...brings HUGE...AWFUL...LONG TERM results. Even, years , and years, later.

    For a start, I am the ONLY one, of that group of 5 youngsters, still alive.

    Hughie died in a ghastly fire, identified ONLY by his signet ring. Jimmy, achieved much, but died, leaving Millions, in his late 20's of bone-cancer, yet totally alone, and very lonely, in America. Tom was killed in a horrific car crash, and Phillip, my great, lovely, wonderful mate, a great, huge, massively profitable, Success Story.. (think...baguettes.....!)one day.. pulled the hose from his Mam's oul' washing machine, and died of cyanide poisoning later that night, in his own car, in a Public Park, by suicide.

    Yeah, I lived.

    But, my own, eldest, first-born beautiful, blonde haired, blue-eyed, child, died VERY suddenly, aged 8 years of age, from a freak, one-in-a-million, STROKE!!! The Doc's could never explain it.

    Co-incidence? Or...what? Who knows??

    I can still see Fr Dermot screaming..."You's are ALL doomed"!!!! "What have Yiz done. May the Lord protect yiz"!!!

    Obviously, the Lord was out that day, and Satan won!!!

    I've since returned to Catholicism. I went to Medujordie in 2004. I ...really did...see.. the Sun "Dance". I found a Blessed peace there. I got involved with a group helping desperately poor, old people, out in Bosnia. I've been back...twice, every year , since. Hoping, always hoping....that I've bought my soul...back from Satan. And, that GOD..has maybe...forgiven me. It's not easy.

    DO NOT...dabble in the OCCULT..or the Oiuja Board. You will only CALL UP forces...that are FAR stronger than you. Never, ever, invite SATAN into your life. Be aware...that there is a HUGE PRICE to pay....for SIN. Also ..be aware...YOU WILL pay it.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=54689877#post54689877
    Hmmm ... fool me once ... shame on you .... etc ... etc ... ... .... ...


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