John Rambo

MisterAnarchy

I watched the new Rambo film last night and I must say it was thoroughly enjoying.
It is a throwback to the good old action films where men were men and violence was good.
The plot is basic enough but there is oodles of action ,decapitations,blown off limbs,pretty much every body part gets removed in one scene or another.:D
It is extremely violent ,one of the most graphic films I have seen in years.Not for the weak of stomach.
The cinematography and score are very good though and the action scenes are adrenaline pumping .
I was hesitant as I didnt know what to expect but I was pleasantly surprised.
Its only 80 minutes long but it flies along.
Thumbs up .

grames_bond

not wanting any spoilers but is it in anyway realistic or another aul "rambo kills a full army using a pocket knife" type of thing!

Morlar

I am watching it right now funnily enough and the initial montage and opening scenes are a bit violent alright.

MisterAnarchy

grames_bond wrote: »

not wanting any spoilers but is it in anyway realistic or another aul "rambo kills a full army using a pocket knife" type of thing!

It is very realistic ,not too far fetched at all .

Morlar

grames_bond wrote: »

not wanting any spoilers but is it in anyway realistic or another aul "rambo kills a full army using a pocket knife" type of thing!

Just finished watching that and the violence is ultra realistic and lots of it. This is about as far from a-team style action/violence as its possible to get.

I would highly recommend checking this out. I laughed at the trailer when I first saw it and the thoughts of a 60yr old making it but after seeing it my mind is changed. It is a bit (only very slightly) silly in part but nothing that could take you out of the movie - overall I would say that the movie works on the level its supposed to work at. ****ing hell ! ! woot ! and all that. The ending is spot on too - nice to see the saga come full circle so to speak

TheDoc

this is a takeback to the 80's where gore ruled and action was king

forget scripts forget actors, this about killing as many people as you can

and its brilliant


what a comeback, must see film

Aedh Baclamh

Avoid this film at all costs. Acting is woeful, script is worse, and it just makes me cringe even thinking about it. I thought Stallone's face was going to melt at one point. The most laughs in the cinema came whenever Stallone tried to say something - priceless.

TerrorFirmer

Excellent film. So insanely, excessively violent - about as bloody as an action film can possibly get, and even crossing into other genres you'd be hard pressed to find a gorier movie. Acting was fine, story was equally fine - anyone criticizing the film over those two principles (which incidentally were fine regard) should not have gone in the first place.

If only more movies like this were being made these days. I have to say Stallone looked good and not remotely as 'plastic' as has been suggested....

Aedh Baclamh

Hard pressed to find a gorier movie? How about Braindead? A tad more gorier one might say. Wow, that's a strong statement you make with regard to not going if I was ever going to question the acting in the film. I mean, who'd ever think of criticizing ACTING in a MOVIE. The thoughts!

Stallone looked good:D Haha, look, clearly you're a Rambo fan or a big Stallone fan. But let's get real for a second. The guys face nearly melted and he could hardly put a single sentence together.

Tripe.

positron

Agree with the above poster! Sly shouldn't have done it! And again the comment 'cast instantly forgettable' is so true, because I can't even remember how many mercenaries there were - one week later, all I remember from the movie now is sly himself, a girl, her friend, the sniper and was there a bad guy General with huge shades? Thats all really.

kona

:D:D
some people:rolleyes:

you pay to see rambo, and complain about it being too violent/gorey/bad acting/bad script.

its a action film, if you want acting/scripts, feck off to a play, or read shakespeare:D:D

seriously you attitude is akin to paying into a strip club, with GirlsGirlsGirls in gleaming neon, ad complaining that its sleazy and there is too much nudity:D:D

get a life tbh.:mad:

and yes rambo was deadly, best action film since starshp troopers and best military film since we were soldiers:D:D

and sly is a legend!!

TerrorFirmer

Aedh Baclamh wrote: »

Hard pressed to find a gorier movie? How about Braindead? A tad more gorier one might say. Wow, that's a strong statement you make with regard to not going if I was ever going to question the acting in the film. I mean, who'd ever think of criticizing ACTING in a MOVIE. The thoughts!

Stallone looked good:D Haha, look, clearly you're a Rambo fan or a big Stallone fan. But let's get real for a second. The guys face nearly melted and he could hardly put a single sentence together.

Tripe.

Yes but Braindead is a tongue in cheek horror-comedy. Rambo is certainly anything but, maybe I should have said you'd be extremely hard pressed to find a gorier movie based in a world of reality.

As for the acting, certain genres demand leeway. You honestly expected Oscar winning performances in Rambo? Look at Star Wars, one of the most famous films ever committed to film - yet the acting is diabolical. But it doesn't matter, because it's not what the film is about. It's enough to carry the film, and that's all that truly matters. But again, I thought Sly did a fairly good job - I'd agree nothing worth mentioning, but perfectly passable for the role he played. And as for he looks good, remember he's in his 60's. Most other men that age look like Larry David.

I have to say criticizing a Rambo movie overwhelmingly negatively because you didn't think Sly put in a strong performance is just someone grasping at anything just to be able to say 'Oh, it was terrible.' I think Kona summed it up pretty well actually. What were you expecting, having paid to see 'Rambo' with Sylvester Stallone in his 60's? Stallone swinging from trees half naked, delivering periodical soliloquies?

one week later, all I remember from the movie now is sly himself, a girl, her friend, the sniper and was there a bad guy General with huge shades? Thats all really.

They were the only 'real' characters, the others were secondary and only there to further the greatness of Rambo. :cool:

Aedh Baclamh

That's the first film I've seen Stallone in to be quite honest with you. I haven't watched any of the other Rambos (don't think that mattered really, hardly missed any big story) and I've never caught any of the Rocky films.

'Based in a world of reality' - You think Rambo was?:D Look, it was totally ridiculous, and yes, I understand that there are a small number of folk out there that like this completely brainless tripe that seems to crop up every so often. Do not criticise me for questioning the acting abilities or the storyline in this film - it's a film and this is what people do after it. It's kind of normal behaviour, you know?

I'm not sure who Larry David is. Stallone does NOT look good for 60 because he's basically a piece of plastic. End of. And yeah, if he can't swing from trees maybe he should reconsider coming out with such garbage?

_Kaiser_

This was an excellent film. As someone else said, it's a throwback to the good ole days of the 80s when action films were exactly what they said on the tin - violent, entertaining and unimpeded by any liberal/PC-ness, comedy value for the family, or unnecessary love interests.

I mean, it's Rambo! Anyone who expected a thought-provoking dramatic interpretation of the conflict with deep character development and 15 minute monologues was at the wrong movie :rolleyes:

It was a great end to the saga (loved the full circle ending) and Stallone still has it.

Sherifu

Loved it, it was a reminder of what we've been missing with the more recent action films.

Saw it last night and loved it. Stallone was excellent in all his parts, acting/directing/writing. There was a sense of realism to events that is lacking in most current action films.

Anyone notice during the dream sequence it showed the original ending to First Blood, where Rambo dies.

Max_Damage

Don't know if there is another thread on this, but anyway...

It would seem that Rambo is not being shown in any of their cinemas for some reason. Anyone know why that is?

The awesomeness of it may be too much for UCI screens.

Nunu

Saw this earlier and absolutely loved it, as did most of the packed cinema who gave it a fantastic round of applause at the end:D ...haven't experienced the clapping at the end in a cinema for quite a while.

Seriously, what a movie! This goes straight into the top tier of my favourite action movies of all time....if I had ever got off my lazy ass and made an action movie it would have very much mirrored this film.

some know it all behind me actually said to his mates (who all agreed) -'that's stupid a claymore bomb would never have that sort of explosion' when Rambo attached it to the unexploded WW2 bomb!! - some people really are dumb:D

Sherifu

Nunu wrote: »

some know it all behind me actually said to his mates (who all agreed) -'that's stupid a claymore bomb would never have that sort of explosion' when Rambo attached it to the unexploded WW2 bomb!! - some people really are dumb:D

Nothing like someone revealing their stupidity in public for a good chuckle.

faceman

UCI are an awful cinema chain. They downgraded the cinema seats when they introduced those premium seats in the cinema in blanch in dublin so i dont bother going there no more.

(By downgrade i mean there is no high back on the seats no more to rest your head against.)

Strange that they're not showing rambo tho

Mully

Connected ?

From breakingnews.ie


Sylvester Stallone's latest movie offering 'Rambo' has been snubbed by British cinema giant Odeon - after it vowed not to show the film on any of the chain's screens.

The movie chain announced on Friday it would not be showing Stallone's action movie, the fourth film about musclebound war veteran John Rambo, disappointing fans in the UK.

Odeon insists the decision was made due to "commercial reasons" - but reports attribute the rare move to an alleged feud between the cinema chain and distributors Sony.

An Odeon spokesman says: "Owing to commercial reasons, Odeon has made the decision not to screen the film Rambo across its cinemas in the UK."

iMax

UCI are owned by Odeon so that would be the reason. Don't think you're missing anything to be honest. I've no interest in seeing it, but have talked to people who did & they report it as being utterly distasteful. (One particular scene of an eight year old boy being bayoneted & a baby being thrown into a fire - that's apparently entertainment - amazed it got passed without those cuts).

As I haven't seen it I'm happy to concede that these scenes were cut, I don't, nor is it likely, will I ever know for myself as I've no intention of seeing it...

grames_bond

Aedh Baclamh wrote: »

The most laughs in the cinema came whenever Stallone tried to say something - priceless.

so u were in a cinema with people who laugh at a man who had a defect at birth.....u monsters

Pigman II

iMax wrote: »

One particular scene of an eight year old boy being bayoneted & a baby being thrown into a fire

Cool.

kaimera

iMax wrote: »

UCI are owned by Odeon so that would be the reason. Don't think you're missing anything to be honest. I've no interest in seeing it, but have talked to people who did & they report it as being utterly distasteful. (One particular scene of an eight year old boy being bayoneted & a baby being thrown into a fire - that's apparently entertainment - amazed it got passed without those cuts).

As I haven't seen it I'm happy to concede that these scenes were cut, I don't, nor is it likely, will I ever know for myself as I've no intention of seeing it...

Out of context tbh.

Watch the movie.

Aedh Baclamh

Yeah don't watch the movie. There are a lot more films out there deserving of your attention - There Will Be Blood, Juno etc. Watch them.

Aedh Baclamh

They were all German if that makes any difference.

BlitzKrieg

Aedh Baclamh wrote: »

Yeah don't watch the movie. There are a lot more films out there deserving of your attention - There Will Be Blood, Juno etc. Watch them.

or watch both?

Aedh Baclamh

Yeah I suppose you could watch There Will Be Blood and Juno.

Podge_irl

iMax wrote: »

(One particular scene of an eight year old boy being bayoneted & a baby being thrown into a fire - that's apparently entertainment - amazed it got passed without those cuts).

Good point - those scenes should have been cut so we could all go back to pretending bad things don't happen in the world.

The scenes were in context. It wasn't intended for the audience to be cheering at that point or anything. You may as well complain about all the blood in Saving Private Ryan.

monkeyfudge

Not at the same time though. That could get confusing.

BlitzKrieg

and rambo

Aedh Baclamh

I never said to watch Rambo.

iMax

Podge_irl wrote: »

Good point - those scenes should have been cut so we could all go back to pretending bad things don't happen in the world.

The scenes were in context. It wasn't intended for the audience to be cheering at that point or anything. You may as well complain about all the blood in Saving Private Ryan.

Who's not pretending that "bad things don't happen in the world" ? If I want to see that I'll seek it out, I don't want it hoisted on my by way of "Entertainment", that's the out of context part. This is simply not entertainment.

People (not me) did complain about SPR. At the showing I was at several people left the cinema during or after the opening scene, yet to me it's one of my favorite movies (& one of my demo ones for showing off my system).

Aedh Baclamh

System?

faceman

I was never a rambo fan after the first one but i was really hoping that this movie (and AVP2) would be a success as it could pave the way to bring back the adultness of the great action films of the 80's, in particular the die hard series.

Or maybe i just miss paul verhoeven

Podge_irl

iMax wrote: »

Who's not pretending that "bad things don't happen in the world" ? If I want to see that I'll seek it out, I don't want it hoisted on my by way of "Entertainment", that's the out of context part. This is simply not entertainment.

You are seeking it out by going to this particular film though. It's not like you can't gather what kind of film it is from the trailers or from the fact that, you know, it's Rambo.

I have no problem with people not wanting to see that kind of thing, but I don't get why you think these scenes should have been cut. I also have issue with you claiming people are considering these particular scenes as "entertainment". They're part of a larger film and part of creating the whole vibe of good guy kills bad guys. You're supposed to find them distasteful.

BlitzKrieg

Aedh Baclamh wrote: »

I never said to watch Rambo.

but you told someone not to watch it, and watch there will be blood and juno instead

why cant he/she watch there will bee blood, juno and rambo.

and while they're at it, maybe pop in and give be kind rewind a try.


but like monkeyfudge said dont try to watch them all at the same time.


that would be stupid.

it would look like a pregnant stallone wading through a cardboard jungle fighting oil tycoons with a machete...


actually

faceman

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

it would look like a pregnant stallone wading through a cardboard jungle fighting oil tycoons with a machete...


actually

LOL

iMax

Aedh Baclamh wrote: »

System?

Home cinema. Surround sound etc.

Podge_irl wrote: »

You are seeking it out by going to this particular film though. It's not like you can't gather what kind of film it is from the trailers or from the fact that, you know, it's Rambo.

No I'm not, I'm not going to see it based (initially on the trailer - the 50MM gun in the jeep scene turned my stomach), on what I perceive as being undesireable.

Podge_irl wrote: »

I have no problem with people not wanting to see that kind of thing, but I don't get why you think these scenes should have been cut. I also have issue with you claiming people are considering these particular scenes as "entertainment". They're part of a larger film and part of creating the whole vibe of good guy kills bad guys. You're supposed to find them distasteful.

We can gather the good guys & the bad guys from their general demeanor down to the flags on their uniforms - first happened in the westerns, good guys wore a white hat, bad guys wore a black hat. I can figure out who's a bad guy without seeing them hurl a baby into a fire. It's just not a required scene.

First Blood was an excellent movie, First Blood II, was ok, part 3 was a total cash in job, but after a couple of beers is enjoyable enough (or watchable at least). In general, I love big budget, blockbuster, stuff getting blown up & a reasonable body count type of movies & it takes a huge amount to shock me but I've been turned off this since the trailer & that's saying something.

Incidentally, that 50mm scene - did you know there's a line in the Geneva convention banning shooting someone above the chest area with a gun of that caliber ? It's idiotic enough that they have to write it into the GC, but then to make that a major selling point of the trailer ?

faceman

iMax wrote: »

Incidentally, that 50mm scene - did you know there's a line in the Geneva convention banning shooting someone above the chest area with a gun of that caliber ? It's idiotic enough that they have to write it into the GC, but then to make that a major selling point of the trailer ?

I think Rambo 5 is a war crimes courtroom drama. Odds on favourite for kevin spacey to be cast as juror number 8.

kaimera

Incidentally, that 50mm scene - did you know there's a line in the Geneva convention banning shooting someone above the chest area with a gun of that caliber ? It's idiotic enough that they have to write it into the GC, but then to make that a major selling point of the trailer ?

Then you best never ever ever see it. It's worse than the trailer shows.

Again, out of context tho, you'd understand if you watch it but you wont and make ill.formed decisions.

TheDoc

loved new ramob, probably the most powerful anti war film ive ever seen...

and the scenes that have been described are well in context with whats happening A) i nthe world and in this film


they should have considered themselves lucky rambo didnt wasnt present for that, cause im sure he would have carried out his own genocide...:)

WELL worth a watch

or in my case...4 times and counting

Rambo is good old fashioned one man against an army fun, the likes of which has'nt seen the inside of a cinema over here in almost a decade. People, you need to go see it for the sole reason that if successful we will see a series of 18 rated action films, like the ones we used to sneak down and watch at 4am when we were kids.

Look what happed kids growing up over the past ten years with no heroes to show them the way. They began text talking, hanging out in groups outside our houses and tucking their pants into their socks. It has to stop and a few people can make it so, SLy, Arnie, Van Damme, Lundgren and God help me Seagal.

TheDoc

this is well worth a look and tremendous imo. Rambo was never one for making serious political statements, rambo 3 tried but not well.

But this is such an anti war film imo, its so realistic and sadistic even its engrossing. My girlfriend HATES stallone and rambo and i pulled her to this, and she was engrossed in it, not once letting her eyes leave the screen, and after seeing some under agers getting killed, you could see in her face she was really hoping rambo cuts them up.

again ill re-voice my concern over people and their criticsms...many people here who have negetives have read it in a mag or from someone, its not their own opinion.

And a bad script and acting goes with any rambo film, but, i felt the acting was fine in this installment, and the story was VERY good for an action film.

The only negetive i had from this was

Felt agrieved at not seeing rambo hunt anyone in a jungle, heartbroken he hadnt got his knife, felt the end with them all standing was a bit drawn, heartbroken again at only a small segment of arrow fun

otherwise , apart from my smile gripes from which are derived from a fond liking to rambo and action films, this film is probably the best action film to come along in a very long time, trying to remember the last time i ws so satisifed with a gore fest.

And its not even that bad tbh...its just proper gore and proper shooting, instead of someone being shot and holding their stomach from the almighyful pain, they get blow 20 feet away by a 50 cal

perfect

id go as far as saying 4/5 9/10

losing one mark because of my smile gripes of lost franchise material, other then that it was a ten...and i never ever give a perfect review.

and im gna stop reading rambo threads cause seeing negetive reviews will just cause me to get upset, cause no doubt it will be someone who thought they were going to see an asian war drama :P

Sherifu

The new Rambo film just kicks ass. People being forced to run into landmines for some paddy power action, villages being torn apart by mortars and machine gun fire, babies being used for bonfire fuel and guys getting decapitated with huge guns. Guess what; **** happens. There's no point pretending it doesn't happen.

Gatling

Sam Here

That Is A Load Of **** It One Of The Best Flims Ever Made.
It Should Be Showing Every Were. How Ever Thinks That Should Be Shot,

Mossy Monk

Fantastic movie.

Sir Gallagher

iMax wrote: »

UCI are owned by Odeon so that would be the reason. Don't think you're missing anything to be honest. I've no interest in seeing it, but have talked to people who did & they report it as being utterly distasteful. (One particular scene of an eight year old boy being bayoneted & a baby being thrown into a fire - that's apparently entertainment - amazed it got passed without those cuts).

As I haven't seen it I'm happy to concede that these scenes were cut, I don't, nor is it likely, will I ever know for myself as I've no intention of seeing it...

Not all films are supposed to be entertaining, some are supposed to be hard to watch therefore evoking different feelings, for instance I didn't particularly enjoy nor was entertained by Apocalypse Now in the conventional sense of those words but I sill understand and appreciate how great a film it is.

Nolanger

Men in general are more feminised compared to 25 years ago when the first one came out. There's few real men left on our movie screens so looking forward to seeing it.