The Nosey Bastards:Medical For New Job

pacman murphy

Went for a medical for a new job the other day and the amount of ****ing questions they asked was unreal.The doctor wasn't even my own GP and was conducting the medical on behalf of the company.It was the first time I met the c*nt and boy was he a nosey bastard but not half as ****ing nosey as the nurse.They wanted to now everything you can think of and some of the questions related to my family which has **** all to do with me.I being a coy individual gave little away but what I really want to know is do they have right do get your previous medical history from your own GP as I had to sign some ****ing form.I'm telling ye I never met such a pair of nosey bastards in my life.

MarkR

Unless they asked you something out of the ordinary, I'm sure they were only doing their job. Not looking for answers, but what type of questions were they asking? Would they be worse then the blood donor ones? (Strict, but for obvious reasons of course)

biko

That depends on the position you're after which is..? If it is a factory job they probably wouldn't ask so many questions.

They're doing what they're asked by the company.

pacman murphy

biko wrote: »

That depends on the position you're after which is..? If it is a factory job they probably wouldn't ask so many questions.

They're doing what they're asked by the company.

Can they ask your real GP about you and get information about you I hope they can't because I wasn't honest about certain things,didn't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing

passive

Terrible, ****ing terrible. ****ing shocking stuff. ****. ****.

pacman murphy

MarkR wrote: »

Unless they asked you something out of the ordinary, I'm sure they were only doing their job. Not looking for answers, but what type of questions were they asking? Would they be worse then the blood donor ones? (Strict, but for obvious reasons of course)

Questions about your family and other sorts of improper questions sexual preference etc.

biko

Probably not. Anyway you signed a form so that would probably allow them to ask.
What position are you after? Why so secretive in front of them?

pacman murphy

biko wrote: »

Probably not. Anyway you signed a form so that would probably allow them to ask.
What position are you after? Why so secretive in front of them?

I ****ing hate nosey people they were real intrusive c*nts what the **** have those kinda questions got to do with anything I don't see the point of them asking every possible question under the sun .I wouldn't say you would be to eager to divulge your medical history to two complete strangers.

Stargal

pacman murphy wrote: »

Can they ask your real GP about you and get information about you I hope they can't because I wasn't honest about certain things,didn't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing

Are you serious? You didn't want to give the doctor "the satisfaction of knowing" about your medical history? I've re-read that sentence several times now and every time it just seems even more idiotic than the last. Dude, it was a medical - of course they're going to ask you tonnes of questions.

And asking about your family medical history and sexual history is par for the course. If there's been a high incidence of heart disease in your immediate family, for example, or if you've shagged your way through hundreds of people but have never had an STI test, well that's going to raise alarm bells.

biko

For the third time, what position are you after? That will have a bearing here.

pacman murphy

Stargal wrote: »

Are you serious? You didn't want to give the doctor "the satisfaction of knowing" about your medical history? I've re-read that sentence several times now and every time it just seems even more idiotic than the last. Dude, it was a medical - of course they're going to ask you tonnes of questions.

And asking about your family medical history and sexual history is par for the course. If there's been a high incidence of heart disease in your immediate family, for example, or if you've shagged your way through hundreds of people but have never had an STI test, well that's going to raise alarm bells.

All they need to know as I see it is if I am fit and healthy or had any MAJOR medical problems in the past.I am extremely healthy and fit and have had no major health problems so why the **** do they want to every other detail.

pacman murphy

biko wrote: »

For the third time, what position are you after? That will have a bearing here.

management

LuckyStar

pacman murphy wrote: »

management

If you get it make sure you don't ask too many questions when your interviewing people for jobs, they might think you're nosy

biko

Ok that explains a bit. The company you are looking to work for might have a very strict policy when hiring managers. The higher up the more they need to know about you.

Mr. Presentable

Management. It's a bit vague. If, for example, I was going to invest a couple of years training in someone I'd want to know they weren't going to be sick all the time..........

sprinkles

pacman murphy wrote: »

Went for a medical for a new job the other day and the amount of ****ing questions they asked was unreal.The doctor wasn't even my own GP and was conducting the medical on behalf of the company.It was the first time I met the c*nt and boy was he a nosey bastard but not half as ****ing nosey as the nurse.They wanted to now everything you can think of and some of the questions related to my family which has **** all to do with me.I being a coy individual gave little away but what I really want to know is do they have right do get your previous medical history from your own GP as I had to sign some ****ing form.I'm telling ye I never met such a pair of nosey bastards in my life.

If you could pick one word to describe these people, only one word... what would it be?

Shelli

Did you say they asked you your sexual preferances? As in male/female? Surely that's against your rights?

iMax

I had to go for a medical for my job, went through the whole thing laughing & joking with him, finally he asked me to pee into a sample jar, real deadpan I say... "Wow... guess I shouldn't have smoked that crack last night..." He stands there looking at me... wheels going trying to figure out if I was kidding or not...

Doctors have no sense of humour at all.

dudara

@ pacman murphy Take it easy on the swearing. No more bad language will be tolerated.

On the original topic, I think that employers are perfectly entitled to ask about your family. They might like to know if there is a family risk of diabetes, heart conditions, blood pressure etc. It can all impact on your job performance.

King of Kings

those questions are perfectly ok for a medical. family history is a major question to ask - as well as sexual pref


you are very sensitive

xebec

pacman murphy wrote: »

Can they ask your real GP about you and get information about you I hope they can't because I wasn't honest about certain things,didn't want to give them the satisfaction of knowing

There's so many things wrong with this I don't know where to start...

Your GP should only give out information if you give permission for that information to be shared.

Why would you choose to hide something from a doctor? What have they got to gain or you to lose from this information? They were not being nosey, they were carrying out a full medical which is par for the course in many professions nowadays.

But my biggest issue with this statement is any backlash that could arise from you doing this. From my experience, successfully passing a medical is a condition on the offer being made. Should anything happen which causes the stuff that you've hidden to come out then you could leave yourself open to trouble. Now the chances of this are very small, but I still fail to see the logic in you taking this standpoint when dealing with a professional who was just completing their job.

the_syco

I'm unsure if they're allowed to ask you your sexual preference.

Firetrap

A few years ago I had to go for a medical for my job. In the medical centre, a place which specialises in doing medicals, they gave me a form to fill out. It had questions on it about my medical history and the family's medical history. The form itself wasn't one cobbled together by my employers but a standard pre-printed one.

You can jump up and down all you want about these forms but if you want the job, you have to play the game. Sure, fill in the form but you don't have to tell the entire truth. Don't lie either - just don't put down anything that's out of the ordinary.

JuliusCaesar

pacman murphy wrote: »

Went for a medical for a new job the other day and the amount of ****ing questions they asked was unreal.The doctor wasn't even my own GP and was conducting the medical on behalf of the company.It was the first time I met the c*nt and boy was he a nosey bastard but not half as ****ing nosey as the nurse.They wanted to now everything you can think of and some of the questions related to my family which has **** all to do with me.I being a coy individual gave little away but what I really want to know is do they have right do get your previous medical history from your own GP as I had to sign some ****ing form.I'm telling ye I never met such a pair of nosey bastards in my life.

Troll?
funniest thing I've read in a long time.
"Doctor asked me personal questions, and about my family history, nosey b*stard"

Onikage

Just be thankful you weren't getting a prostate exam.

Sherifu

Were you expecting to be asked about the weather? It seems normal to me to ask about family history and about your GP.

spinandscribble

sexual preference? what do gay ppl take more sick days? seriously that doesnt seem right....

crosstownk

I had a medical recently for a job. No hassle, no fuss. The company are just ensuring that you are fit for the job - the last thing they want is you going on a long term sicky and costing them money and resources. Chill out - if you've nothing to hide then what's the problem?

King of Kings

spinandscribble wrote: »

sexual preference? what do gay ppl take more sick days? seriously that doesnt seem right....

practicing gay people are excluded from giving blood in the blood bank....they have their reasons....it mightn't be morally right but the medical profession believe that homosexuals are more prone to std';s than hetros.

WhiteWashMan

King of Kings wrote: »

practicing gay people are excluded from giving blood in the blood bank....they have their reasons....it mightn't be morally right but the medical profession believe that homosexuals are more prone to std';s than hetros.

that isnt the case in a lot of countries now.

Capt'n Midnight

the_syco wrote: »

I'm unsure if they're allowed to ask you your sexual preference.

In the ROI they can't even ask if you are single or married before they employ you.

Toots

I think you're over-reacting a bit OP, it's their job to be thorough. If you have a family history of hypertension or the like, a stressful workload could be detrimental to your health. At the end of the day, they're not going to hire you as a manager if you're going to drop dead in a week and they're stuck paying out a massive death in service benefit.

Also, giving them the wrong answers just so they wouldn't have the satisfaction of knowing is ridiculous. Not a good start for a new job if they have to call you back for another medical after talking to your GP (this by the way, is exactly why they ask for permission to talk to your GP, in case someone is lying about a pre-existing condition that they know may impact their chances of getting the job). The doctor isn't going to provide your medical report word for word to your prospective employers, he will be giving a statement as to whether or not you are healthy and meet whatever criteria the job have set down in regards to health. I'm not 100% sure on the position of asking you your sexual preference though, I'm not sure how that would have much bearing on your health overall.

It's a pretty standard practice for employers to send candidates for medicals these days, they're protecting their asses. I was sent for one when I applied for my entry level job in banking a couple of years ago, and I was being taken on as a pleb, not management. I also had to do one when I was getting life cover for my mortgage. It's just procedure, and I can assure you, you were nothing more than a number to the dr and nurse (well perhaps a bit of a snotty number but that's beside the point) and I'm sure they weren't going out of their way to be nosy, there are just certain questions that they have to ask, and they're only as awkward as you make them. Don't take it personally, they were just doing their jobs.

The Sweeper

OP if you signed a release allowing the medical examiner to get your medical records from your GP, then yes, they have permission to get your medical records from your GP. It might be sensible to read what you sign before you sign it.

As for personally intrusive questions, I don't see how questions in a medical exam can be considered to be intrusive.

"What is your sexual preference?" is a question that helps categorise you. Statistically, when such questionnaires were drawn up, homosexual men were at a higher risk of STDs than heterosexual men. STDs = sick days. QED, we want know if you like the cock so we can classify how high a risk you're likely to be on the sick day front.

"Are either of your parents overweight, do they smoke, do they drink alcohol, have you any history of heart disease or diabetes in your family, has anyone in your family had cancer" etc. etc. - these are questions again designed to categorise you. If you are overweight with a tendency to drink too much you can be more likely to get diabetes.

What your company medical examiner DOES NOT AND SHOULD NOT DO, is sit down and discuss the ins and outs of your medical history with your boss. Doctor-patient confidentiality still applies in situations where you are examined on the instruction of a prospective employer, again unless you sign away your right to such confidentiality. Sometimes the examining doctor will write a simple 'fit or unfit' report on your behalf, not pass your medical records to HR.

Again since you haven't been specific about the questions they asked you, you're just coming across as hyper-sensitive.

tbh

so OP, at what point did you say "Actually, I don't want to answer these questions, the job's not worth it", and walk out?

Mazeire

American based company medicals are well known for being thorough and asking somewhat inapproriate questions. Not saying its right, but if you want the bucks you got to play the game. If you are getting medical insurance as part of the package with them, then they want to know everything. Family history is very relevant though, as a lot of stuff like arthritis high blood pressure heart problems etc. can be hereditary.

Miss Fluff

Did they run any tests for anger issues OP?

NortSoide

I have to agree with Miss Fluff there.

You should watch the file - 'Anger Management'.

I think you'll make a great fooooookin manager.
Just as long as you don't meet a fooooookin c*nt
like me who'll put you in your fooooookin place !

Fwaggle

pacman murphy wrote: »

Went for a medical for a new job the other day and the amount of ****ing questions they asked was unreal.The doctor wasn't even my own GP and was conducting the medical on behalf of the company.It was the first time I met the c*nt and boy was he a nosey bastard but not half as ****ing nosey as the nurse.They wanted to now everything you can think of and some of the questions related to my family which has **** all to do with me.I being a coy individual gave little away but what I really want to know is do they have right do get your previous medical history from your own GP as I had to sign some ****ing form.I'm telling ye I never met such a pair of nosey bastards in my life.

LOL. Are you so self important that you thought they were asking these questions because they thought you were such an interesting person? It was a medical and they were asking you medical questions, oh noes!

And, what's with all the swearing? Drama queen.

ellenmelon

can you imagine this guy getting questioned by the guards?

"WHERE I WAS LAST NIGHT IS NONE OF YOUR FOOKIN' BUSINESS"

Wibbs

NortSoide First and only warning. If you can't write helpful sense don't bother posting.

ellenmelon less so, but stick to the charter

AngryBadger

Firetrap wrote: »

You can jump up and down all you want about these forms but if you want the job, you have to play the game. Sure, fill in the form but you don't have to tell the entire truth. Don't lie either - just don't put down anything that's out of the ordinary.

QFT

Pyjamarama

I've been for one of these medicals and I'm guessing the question that irked the OP so much was 'Are you a homosexual male?'. It seems like he's taken this personally and his nose has been put out of joint because a Doctor even considered asking a big foookin' man like himself such a question and he wants to instill his machoness by swearing 7 times in a sentence.

I agree it's a ridiculous question in this day and age but as someone else pointed out you still can't even give blood in this country if you're a homosexual so that's this country keeping up with the times.

I also got asked 'Are you an intravenous drug user', I felt like saying 'Yes ... oh wait actually NO!' just to see the doctor's reaction

The doctor and nurse were doing their job and they have set questions they have to ask. I think they send your GP a questionaire about your general health so if you've majorly lied about a serious illness then it's your own fault because you've consented them checking your medical history with your GP.

tbh

Pyjamarama wrote: »

I've been for one of these medicals and I'm guessing the question that irked the OP so much was 'Are you a homosexual male?'. It seems like he's taken this personally and his nose has been put out of joint because a Doctor even considered asking a big foookin' man like himself such a question and he wants to instill his machoness by swearing 7 times in a sentence.

it's a pretty big assumption.

Gregor Samsa

the_syco wrote: »

I'm unsure if they're allowed to ask you your sexual preference.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

In the ROI they can't even ask if you are single or married before they employ you.

That's in a job interview. A medical exam is different. The doctor's report going back to the employer isn't going to say "He's gay" - the doctor is asking this stuff to see if further medical examinations are necessary. For instance if you say that you're a celibate virgin, he's not going to have to do checks for a load of STDs. If you say that you are promiscuous, he will.

Pyjamarama

tbh wrote: »

it's a pretty big assumption.

Well he's fairly over-sensitive about something and these are the only personal questions that they ask in medicals.

Marksie

I have been reading this thread with interest.
Only one poster has mentioned it:

You cannot ask marital status
you cannot ask whether they have kids or are planning kids
you cannot ask age.


I saw one form where they asked did the person ever have an STI.

This was during a tribunal for wrongful dismissal based on a medical. The company paid out 5K

It depends on whether you want the job or not, but i do not belive such questions of sexual orientation for example are legal.

I would refuse to answer such questions on equality grounds, but then thats me.
Stuff em

watna

Why do you think the Doctor and nurse were actually interested in you? Why would your medical history be so fascinating that they'd want to find out all about it for their own personal gain?! It was a medical, medicals are personal, that's the point. To me it seems they said something to put your nose out of joint and you have a bit of an attitude problem.

If you didn't like the questions or didn't feel comfortable answering why not tell them that? Making something up because you think they're being nosy is extremely petty.

Pyjamarama

Marksie wrote: »

It depends on whether you want the job or not, but i do not belive such questions of sexual orientation for example are legal.

I would refuse to answer such questions on equality grounds, but then thats me.
Stuff em

In an ideal world we all would but if you need a job then you might just have to grin and bear it instead of galloping off on your high horse in disgust. When I was faced with those ridiculous questions I wanted to walk out but I needed to pay the rent somehow. I can't see how these questions are legal either.

Marksie

Pyjamarama wrote: »

In an ideal world we all would but if you need a job then you might just have to grin and bear it instead of galloping off on your high horse in disgust. When I was faced with those ridiculous questions I wanted to walk out but I needed to pay the rent somehow. I can't see how these questions are legal either.

I agree that it complicates things.
They can get away with it because they can in other words.

I dont know what proportion of medicals are actually like that though.

But yeah i would gallop off on my high horse TBH straight to teh equality tribunal:). I can be contrary and dig in like that. But i have seen it done and won

Pyjamarama

Marksie wrote: »

But yeah i would gallop off on my high horse TBH straight to teh equality tribunal:). I can be contrary and dig in like that. But i have seen it done and won

I was really annoyed at myself that I didn't do anything at the time, next time I swear I'm gona stick it to the man!

hunnymonster

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

In the ROI they can't even ask if you are single or married before they employ you.

Given that I'm female and at an age when most of my peers are having babies, you'll find interviews WILL find a way of getting this information out of you in interviews. As someone else said, it's a game, and we've all got to play it.