Commerce!!!

mralanduggan

So im applying to the B.Comm next year and i was wondering about the course as a whole... are class sizes big... hours of the course...and if the accounting is difficult(only did accounting in j.cert)... any help would be much appriciated!:)

K-town

Hi!

I did Commerce a few years ago. Theres normally around 400 people, its generally the biggest course after Arts.you are then split into groups of 10-12 people in a seminar. From what i can remember its about 16-18 hours a week. the accounting is ok, i did it at leaving cert and i found it generally similiar, so you probably will find it a little hard. i cant remember if i did accounting in first year though or it only started in second year. i found maths a killer though and economics if it is still taught by the german dude in second year is horrible- i am not trying to put you off but it can be hard

hope this helps

feel free to ask anymore questions

sekelly

hi, I didnt do commerce didnt have enough points but i ended up doing another course that included several commerce subjects like M.I.S, economics, accounting. The classes is usually quite large, normally 300 in a lecture hall, hours end up to be around 18 hours a week depending on tutorials. I failed all accounting exams in the first two years, they are quite hard and time consuming if you havent much interest and experience!!

AdamantApproach

I did Commerce. Disregard the above posters. It is a very easy course. Enjoy.

sekelly

disregard the above poster...everyone is different, not everyone will find it a 'very easy course.' If your motivated and know what you want to do with your commerce degree then you mite find that it is an enjoyable course. Just look into it and keep asking questions

AdamantApproach

Translation...Some people work very, very hard to get into Commerce. These people will find it difficult. People who find school easy and are reasonably intelligent will not.

thejovialhost

I'm finishing up commerce this year. Above poster is right, if you found school easy and get into commerce handy enough then it's grand, otherwise it's tough. Doing accounting for LC was a big help but some of my mates did not do it (they are specializing in accounting like me) and find it tricky. Classes in 1st year are 300+ but now I only have two that big this semester. The usual class size is about 100.
As for hours, I think it's a doss. 15 hours a week is unlucky, I have about 13. But obviously throw in a few hours of study and it climbs. Doing none of the other streams - economics, management (business studies) etc for the LC did not affect me in a bad way. Infact, economics is one of my favourite subjects and I never did it before, but then again, we had really good lecturers so it depends...
Also the commerce social life is quite enviable:D

This is probably out of date now but for accounting 10 years ago they used to split the first year accounting lecture between those who did it in the leaving and those who didn't (it was 50:50 as far as i remember). Those who didn't got a bit of extra focus at the start on the debits and credits. In fairness they won't make sense until / if you go on to do accounting in the real world. Otherwise you start in really big lectures (400+) which get smaller (50-75) as you get more advanced and specalised.

leninbenjamin

sekelly wrote: »

disregard the above poster...everyone is different, not everyone will find it a 'very easy course.'

i do some commerce subjects. from what i've seen it's as easy a course as they come. as an example they don't even expect or even attempt to cultivate a decent level of maths from the economics students and still they complain (for those who don't know mathematical models are fundamental to economics).

vivadeadponies

asides from accounting and managing stuff, what types of careers are the most common ones to come from doing commerce?



i'm currently down to do it, but it's mostly cos i done really well at the businessy courses in the leaving, wasn't too fond of them at all though... was just the only student in the accounting class and in a tiny business class.

is commerce at all similiar to those two classes or is it a bit more... entertaining(what an awful word choice)?

leninbenjamin

vivadeadponies wrote: »

is commerce at all similiar to those two classes or is it a bit more... entertaining(what an awful word choice)?

there's a lot more choices in terms of speciality. you'll do twelve subjects, only like two say but those two might form a career outlet in themselves, it's what you make of it.

marketing and economics are two more routes to add... remember though again these things are broad and there's a raft of career opportunities within those disciplines...

vivadeadponies

i've been told commerce offers a HUGE amount of post grad options... thats one thing that does interest me about it but i dont have any info on what post grad stuff is possible.

marketing interests me, is the much focus on a psychological aspect to the marketing section or anything like that?

leninbenjamin

vivadeadponies wrote: »

i've been told commerce offers a HUGE amount of post grad options... thats one thing that does interest me about it but i dont have any info on what post grad stuff is possible.

browse the nuig site. all the courses and crap are listed there...

marketing interests me, is the much focus on a psychological aspect to the marketing section or anything like that?

haven't done it myself so i don't know... if i remember i'll ask someone...

vivadeadponies

thanks, i'd appreciate it

qwytre

I did Commerce in 1996-1999. I have to say it was a good choice as it is very broad and you can choose to specialise in a one or two areas in 2nd and 3rd year. I did Marketing and MIS myself and am working in the MIS area now.

First year was fairly easy in that there are not many lecture hours in the week. Some subjects can be tricky to pick up e.g. statistics (are they still doing that?), some of economics in 2nd year was tricky and maths in first year was also tricky.

However if you have a balance to your student life then you will certainly pass and with some work you will get honours. Just remember to balance the socialising with keeping up with the work. You will be glad you did when you eventually get a good job etc.

The main thing is not to try to memorise everything but rather try to understand the subjects you are reading. It is different to the LC in that way. Read at least 2 different books on any subject as that will give you two authors view on the subject and you will get a better understanding of the subject.

Don't spend the first 8 weeks of the term dossing around. Just study regularly say Monday to Wednesday and Thursday during the day. Then enjoy your Thursday night out in the knowledge that you are making the best of your time in college and that you are not going to be in a huge panic as the exams arrive. Getting to within about 6 weeks of exams you should be studying weekends and as much as you can.

Just remember you are in college to get a job of somesort, one that will give you a good lifestyle.

I know I went off on a tangent there from the main question.

commercegrad07

commerce is possibly the easiest course in ucg.. no disertations, essays are minimal no fyp.. currently in final yr, on a 1.1 with minimal fuss. all notes etc on blackboard, dont have to really attend any subject..

qwytre

commercegrad07 wrote: »

commerce is possibly the easiest course in ucg.. no disertations, essays are minimal no fyp.. currently in final yr, on a 1.1 with minimal fuss. all notes etc on blackboard, dont have to really attend any subject..

No, thats not true. You may have found it easy but the majority of people will not find it easy. I got a 1:1 myself but I didn't find it easy. I had to work hard to get it.

My friends in Commerce at at time mostly got honours but I can tell you no one thought it was easy. There is a lot to study and take in, some subjects have a lot of material in them. But with a balance between enjoying all the college entails with some work you will do fine.

I would never say I found Commerce easy. However I did find the Masters I did easier as there was quite a lot of overlap with the subjects I did in Commerce.

DouglasWinthrow

Look ,

being realistic, you only did j.c accounting

UNIVERSITY STYLE ACCOUNTING is a leap, to say it isnt is ridiculous , in the end you will be doing a university exam in accounting at both semestre 1 and 2 ends

you really need to think about how easy/difficult you found ACCOUNTING FOR 14 YEAR OLDS and then think long and hard about what you'll be doing in college

to be honest , its not easy , if you found j.c accounting in any way difficult then it is very unlikely you'll be able for the accounting in commerce

you can tell yourself you'll work really hard etc.. but in reality you need to think long and hard about this if you had any difficulty with it

im not saying this to be pompus, i REALLY AM NOT,

im saying it becuase i know what its like to make the wrong decision in a course , and the fact that youre asking would suggest you have doubts