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Would I be welcome?

  • 22-01-2008 03:03AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭


    I was born a Protestant in Northern Ireland but for a variety of reasons (long story) I don't follow the traditional views you might expect (lots of Protestant relatives but they are all Irish born in the Republic of Ireland and are "Irish"). I am very tempted to move to Dublin because there are many more jobs there that I would like to do than in Belfast. I see myself as Irish in the fullest sense but I feel that I have to constantly prove myself or something. I am concerned that people will think that I am a mad Orangeman or something. I want to move down and integrate totally. I have spent lots of time with my relatives in Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan and Dublin but it is a thing that concerns me. Take the example, I get a job with a company in Dublin but I have my Northern accent and my name as well which would probably be considered totally Protestant. Despite the fact that I love Ireland and don't want to be pigeonholed is it inevitable that I would be? I take people as I find them but would the same courtesy be afforded to me? If this is the wrong forum then mods feel free to relocate the post. I just want some people to give me real answers. It is potentially a big move.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 192 ✭✭KIVES


    Seriously, apart from the odd twat, which you get everywhere, I don't see the problem - thing is, you probably know more about History than your average Southener - I realise it's not a very detailed reply but then again you can over analyse these things to death...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭stepbar


    Good jeasus, you have a very negative view of the "republic".

    "Would I be welcome" :eek: Its not 1900......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    I always found in Ireland that religion isn't an issue unless you make it one. So yes you will be welcome :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    stepbar wrote: »
    Good jeasus, you have a very negative view of the "republic".

    "Would I be welcome" :eek: Its not 1900......

    I realise that I probably didn't word things as well as I could have done. I know it is not 1900. I am all over the island regularly but have never lived outside of Northern Ireland. I personally have no problem with this and indeed would look forward to the prospect of moving but I just want some advice. I have a very positive view of the "Republic". I love Ireland, all of it, but despite the fact that I am chilled out and don't have hang ups about anything I just worry that others might.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    You really shouldnt have any sort of problem at all.

    Apart from the scum, but sure thats to be expected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Feelgood


    Really don't think you have an issue here at all to be honest, I it's safe to say that those days are over?. Unless the job in question is in a factory that makes Celtic jerseys I think your pretty safe!...

    My personal view is that the question of your religious beliefs will never come up?...think of it this way, you are on a website thats based in the ROI and the majority of its members are Irish people..has anyone ever mentioned or asked you were you protestant?. Think this can be applied to the real world republic also...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    You'll meet some people here that would think less of you because you are protestant but they are in the minority and that minority is shrinking. The funny thing is those people that hate protestants so much have probably never been to mass in years.

    The vast majority of people here couldn't give a shit what you are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Feelgood



    The vast majority of people here couldn't give a shit what you are.

    Unless your a scientologist....:D


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have never met a person who is in the slightest bit bothered about someone being a Prodestant......I think you would be in for more trouble if you are a redhead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,510 ✭✭✭Jigsaw


    You make good points. I say I am Protestant because I was born that way and I know that is how I would be recognised. Tbh, I only go to church on Christmas morning and apart from thst I am the same as anyone. That is why I hate the differentations made by some people. To me it is a load of balls, but I just hope that others would be happy to take a person as they find them. Anyway, must go to bed now. If I don't I will be ****ed tomorrow.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Feelgood wrote: »
    Unless your a scientologist....:D

    Well that's because they are the only ones who can really make a difference in our world. They're going to bring about world peace and transform the human race..........or just rape your bank account and fill your head with nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,110 ✭✭✭Y2J_MUFC


    95% of Irish people wouldn't care if your Nothern Irish, Protestant, Black, White, English... of course you'ill get the odd jackass... but thats the same every where. Unless your planning another love ulsters parade, your fine.

    But seriously though, i wouldn't let religion stopping you from moving! 95% of people are way, waaaaaaay past that. The other 5% are shrinking in numbers quickly! Come down!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Jigsaw, most people won't give a shit.

    For that matter, if people in the Republic (and especially aged 15-40, in the urban centres) were asked what religion they followed (as opposed to what religion they were born to) the vast majority would say "not much of anything". It's a far bigger issue north of the border ... though I think even there it's declining.

    Anyway, why feel the need to tell people?

    EDIT: Actually, Man Utd fans ^^^ probably get more hassle ... and deservedly so! :D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    Just avoid blokes called "Damo" in Celtic jerseys and you will be fine.
    You can tell them from miles off because of the smell, the superkings, the red-doped-out-eyes, the retarded accent and the slack jaw. Essentially, if you see what appears to be some sort of missing evolutionary link between partic. stupid monkeys and partic. ugly humans, avoid these people if they are wearing Celtic jerseys. If they aren't wearing Celtic jerseys, that's me. Buy me a drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭deecom


    Just avoid blokes called "Damo" in Celtic jerseys and you will be fine.
    You can tell them from miles off because of the smell, the superkings, the red-doped-out-eyes, the retarded accent and the slack jaw. Essentially, if you see what appears to be some sort of missing evolutionary link between partic. stupid monkeys and partic. ugly humans, avoid these people if they are wearing Celtic jerseys. If they aren't wearing Celtic jerseys, that's me. Buy me a drink.

    Well said! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Well I'd hope that in most instances if you get someone bringing it up it'd be either just out of curiousity or for a playful slagging. If it's someone with a strong "skanger" (really nasal and half pronouncing things) accent though I would be concerned that they're just looking for a fight as most of them are like that to everyone really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭the dee


    I doubt anyone would be able tell without you telling them anyway. It's not like we'll see you walking down the street and our protestant radar will kick in. And people generally don't ask you what religion you are. It'd only be an issue if you make it an issue.

    My boyfriend is technically Greek Orthodox. It's come up in conversation about twice and no one really cares.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,048 ✭✭✭SimpleSam06


    The Republic has 10% to 15% foreign born population at the moment, from places a lot further away than Belfast. They get along just fine, for the most part. Nobody cares, unless you make an issue of it yourself, but you could say the same about anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,385 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    As long as you keep your horns hidden from public view and your tail safely tucked away, then you'll be grand.

    Seriously, I honestly don't think I even know anyone that would give a toss if you're prodestant, catholic or mormon as long as you're not a Greek. They invented gayness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I've never met anyone who has a problem with a Nordie. We quite like the accent, even if you are incomprehensible sometimes. No really, the issue of religion never comes up, especially in the workplace. Even if someone did find out you were protestant, the only people who'd care wouldn't have an opinion worth listening to.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭Caoimhín


    Really shouldent be a problem.
    I work with and have business dealings with Northern Protestants every day. It has never been an issue and never will. Often if politics and or religion are mentioned its in a joking way and is taken as that by both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭Kur4mA


    As long as you keep your horns hidden from public view and your tail safely tucked away, then you'll be grand.

    Seriously, I honestly don't think I even know anyone that would give a toss if you're prodestant, catholic or mormon as long as you're not a Greek. They invented gayness.

    That's so weird! Myself and one of the lads in work were only talking about how the Greeks invented teh gaynees a few days ago. OP don't worry about it. Most people won't give a feck what you are. With regards to getting a job, I don't think you'll have any problems there either as long as you work hard. Sure most places have people from all walks of life these days.


  • Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What everyone else has said. 'Nay bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    YOu'd be a lot more welcome than those romas who were living on the m50 roundabout....


  • Posts: 11,928 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    We quite like the accent, even if you are incomprehensible sometimes.

    QFT....I lust derry accents :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Jigsaw wrote: »
    You make good points. I say I am Protestant because I was born that way and I know that is how I would be recognised. Tbh, I only go to church on Christmas morning and apart from thst I am the same as anyone. That is why I hate the differentations made by some people. To me it is a load of balls, but I just hope that others would be happy to take a person as they find them. Anyway, must go to bed now. If I don't I will be ****ed tomorrow.

    That is about 90% of Irish Catholics. (including me)

    We are not the north there has been no sectarianism here in ages.

    If you do move down then you are a belfast lad really not a Catholic or Protestant. No one asks them questions ever.

    I have never been asked if I was Catholic/Protestant down here it is just assumed you are Christian. Very fe people in the south actually know the difference between Catholics and Protestants they just think Celtic and Rangers so I wouldnt go sporting Ranger Colours like.

    Also the only people that will actually say a thing are about 15 and well I doubt that will bother you. And if you are ever asked your faith I will be very surprized.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    I know quite a few protestants. They are dead sound...but i'm secretly plotting to get rid of them soon enough. My Republican brothers will bask in the fires of their doom!!

    Seriously though, anyone who does have a problem with you being protestant, isnt worth trying to get along with in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Many of this countrys greatest republicans were protestants. So long as you uphold that fine tradition you'll be grand. :)

    And forget to get your ashes on ash wednesday, or you'll be beaten to a pulp :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Yea come down.

    Since Poland invaded us we're not too worried about the north anymore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    You already have spent time in the East, why not make it the West instead? :D
    Safer, better and not so many scumbags.


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