Would I be welcome?

Jigsaw

I was born a Protestant in Northern Ireland but for a variety of reasons (long story) I don't follow the traditional views you might expect (lots of Protestant relatives but they are all Irish born in the Republic of Ireland and are "Irish"). I am very tempted to move to Dublin because there are many more jobs there that I would like to do than in Belfast. I see myself as Irish in the fullest sense but I feel that I have to constantly prove myself or something. I am concerned that people will think that I am a mad Orangeman or something. I want to move down and integrate totally. I have spent lots of time with my relatives in Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan and Dublin but it is a thing that concerns me. Take the example, I get a job with a company in Dublin but I have my Northern accent and my name as well which would probably be considered totally Protestant. Despite the fact that I love Ireland and don't want to be pigeonholed is it inevitable that I would be? I take people as I find them but would the same courtesy be afforded to me? If this is the wrong forum then mods feel free to relocate the post. I just want some people to give me real answers. It is potentially a big move.

KIVES

Seriously, apart from the odd twat, which you get everywhere, I don't see the problem - thing is, you probably know more about History than your average Southener - I realise it's not a very detailed reply but then again you can over analyse these things to death...

stepbar

Good jeasus, you have a very negative view of the "republic".

"Would I be welcome" :eek: Its not 1900......

Unpossible

I always found in Ireland that religion isn't an issue unless you make it one. So yes you will be welcome

Jigsaw

stepbar wrote: »

Good jeasus, you have a very negative view of the "republic".

"Would I be welcome" :eek: Its not 1900......

I realise that I probably didn't word things as well as I could have done. I know it is not 1900. I am all over the island regularly but have never lived outside of Northern Ireland. I personally have no problem with this and indeed would look forward to the prospect of moving but I just want some advice. I have a very positive view of the "Republic". I love Ireland, all of it, but despite the fact that I am chilled out and don't have hang ups about anything I just worry that others might.

Holsten

You really shouldnt have any sort of problem at all.

Apart from the scum, but sure thats to be expected.

Feelgood

Really don't think you have an issue here at all to be honest, I it's safe to say that those days are over?. Unless the job in question is in a factory that makes Celtic jerseys I think your pretty safe!...

My personal view is that the question of your religious beliefs will never come up?...think of it this way, you are on a website thats based in the ROI and the majority of its members are Irish people..has anyone ever mentioned or asked you were you protestant?. Think this can be applied to the real world republic also...

AlmightyCushion

You'll meet some people here that would think less of you because you are protestant but they are in the minority and that minority is shrinking. The funny thing is those people that hate protestants so much have probably never been to mass in years.

The vast majority of people here couldn't give a shit what you are.

Feelgood

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The vast majority of people here couldn't give a shit what you are.

Unless your a scientologist....:D

I have never met a person who is in the slightest bit bothered about someone being a Prodestant......I think you would be in for more trouble if you are a redhead.

Jigsaw

You make good points. I say I am Protestant because I was born that way and I know that is how I would be recognised. Tbh, I only go to church on Christmas morning and apart from thst I am the same as anyone. That is why I hate the differentations made by some people. To me it is a load of balls, but I just hope that others would be happy to take a person as they find them. Anyway, must go to bed now. If I don't I will be ****ed tomorrow.

AlmightyCushion

Feelgood wrote: »

Unless your a scientologist....:D

Well that's because they are the only ones who can really make a difference in our world. They're going to bring about world peace and transform the human race..........or just rape your bank account and fill your head with nonsense.

Y2J_MUFC

95% of Irish people wouldn't care if your Nothern Irish, Protestant, Black, White, English... of course you'ill get the odd jackass... but thats the same every where. Unless your planning another love ulsters parade, your fine.

But seriously though, i wouldn't let religion stopping you from moving! 95% of people are way, waaaaaaay past that. The other 5% are shrinking in numbers quickly! Come down!

randylonghorn

Jigsaw, most people won't give a shit.

For that matter, if people in the Republic (and especially aged 15-40, in the urban centres) were asked what religion they followed (as opposed to what religion they were born to) the vast majority would say "not much of anything". It's a far bigger issue north of the border ... though I think even there it's declining.

Anyway, why feel the need to tell people?

EDIT: Actually, Man Utd fans ^^^ probably get more hassle ... and deservedly so!

dr.bollocko

Just avoid blokes called "Damo" in Celtic jerseys and you will be fine.
You can tell them from miles off because of the smell, the superkings, the red-doped-out-eyes, the retarded accent and the slack jaw. Essentially, if you see what appears to be some sort of missing evolutionary link between partic. stupid monkeys and partic. ugly humans, avoid these people if they are wearing Celtic jerseys. If they aren't wearing Celtic jerseys, that's me. Buy me a drink.

deecom

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Just avoid blokes called "Damo" in Celtic jerseys and you will be fine.
You can tell them from miles off because of the smell, the superkings, the red-doped-out-eyes, the retarded accent and the slack jaw. Essentially, if you see what appears to be some sort of missing evolutionary link between partic. stupid monkeys and partic. ugly humans, avoid these people if they are wearing Celtic jerseys. If they aren't wearing Celtic jerseys, that's me. Buy me a drink.

Well said!

Reku

Well I'd hope that in most instances if you get someone bringing it up it'd be either just out of curiousity or for a playful slagging. If it's someone with a strong "skanger" (really nasal and half pronouncing things) accent though I would be concerned that they're just looking for a fight as most of them are like that to everyone really.

the dee

I doubt anyone would be able tell without you telling them anyway. It's not like we'll see you walking down the street and our protestant radar will kick in. And people generally don't ask you what religion you are. It'd only be an issue if you make it an issue.

My boyfriend is technically Greek Orthodox. It's come up in conversation about twice and no one really cares.

SimpleSam06

The Republic has 10% to 15% foreign born population at the moment, from places a lot further away than Belfast. They get along just fine, for the most part. Nobody cares, unless you make an issue of it yourself, but you could say the same about anything.

super_furry

As long as you keep your horns hidden from public view and your tail safely tucked away, then you'll be grand.

Seriously, I honestly don't think I even know anyone that would give a toss if you're prodestant, catholic or mormon as long as you're not a Greek. They invented gayness.

seamus

I've never met anyone who has a problem with a Nordie. We quite like the accent, even if you are incomprehensible sometimes. No really, the issue of religion never comes up, especially in the workplace. Even if someone did find out you were protestant, the only people who'd care wouldn't have an opinion worth listening to.

Caoimhín

Really shouldent be a problem.
I work with and have business dealings with Northern Protestants every day. It has never been an issue and never will. Often if politics and or religion are mentioned its in a joking way and is taken as that by both sides.

Kur4mA

super_furry wrote: »

As long as you keep your horns hidden from public view and your tail safely tucked away, then you'll be grand.

Seriously, I honestly don't think I even know anyone that would give a toss if you're prodestant, catholic or mormon as long as you're not a Greek. They invented gayness.

That's so weird! Myself and one of the lads in work were only talking about how the Greeks invented teh gaynees a few days ago. OP don't worry about it. Most people won't give a feck what you are. With regards to getting a job, I don't think you'll have any problems there either as long as you work hard. Sure most places have people from all walks of life these days.

What everyone else has said. 'Nay bother.

Quality

YOu'd be a lot more welcome than those romas who were living on the m50 roundabout....

seamus

seamus wrote: »

We quite like the accent, even if you are incomprehensible sometimes.

QFT....I lust derry accents

minidazzler

Jigsaw wrote: »

You make good points. I say I am Protestant because I was born that way and I know that is how I would be recognised. Tbh, I only go to church on Christmas morning and apart from thst I am the same as anyone. That is why I hate the differentations made by some people. To me it is a load of balls, but I just hope that others would be happy to take a person as they find them. Anyway, must go to bed now. If I don't I will be ****ed tomorrow.

That is about 90% of Irish Catholics. (including me)

We are not the north there has been no sectarianism here in ages.

If you do move down then you are a belfast lad really not a Catholic or Protestant. No one asks them questions ever.

I have never been asked if I was Catholic/Protestant down here it is just assumed you are Christian. Very fe people in the south actually know the difference between Catholics and Protestants they just think Celtic and Rangers so I wouldnt go sporting Ranger Colours like.

Also the only people that will actually say a thing are about 15 and well I doubt that will bother you. And if you are ever asked your faith I will be very surprized.

Kiith

I know quite a few protestants. They are dead sound...but i'm secretly plotting to get rid of them soon enough. My Republican brothers will bask in the fires of their doom!!

Seriously though, anyone who does have a problem with you being protestant, isnt worth trying to get along with in the first place.

Dyr

Many of this countrys greatest republicans were protestants. So long as you uphold that fine tradition you'll be grand.

And forget to get your ashes on ash wednesday, or you'll be beaten to a pulp :mad:

arybvtcw0eolkf

Yea come down.

Since Poland invaded us we're not too worried about the north anymore.

biko

You already have spent time in the East, why not make it the West instead?
Safer, better and not so many scumbags.

kevmy

super_furry wrote: »

Seriously, I honestly don't think I even know anyone that would give a toss if you're prodestant, catholic or mormon

Mormons rule!!

Bigamy FTW

Tusky

You dont have anything to worry about. I dont know a single person that would give it a second thought. Its not an issue.

Jigsaw

Jigsaw wrote: »

I was born a Protestant in Northern Ireland but for a variety of reasons (long story) I don't follow the traditional views you might expect (lots of Protestant relatives but they are all Irish born in the Republic of Ireland and are "Irish"). I am very tempted to move to Dublin because there are many more jobs there that I would like to do than in Belfast. I see myself as Irish in the fullest sense but I feel that I have to constantly prove myself or something. I am concerned that people will think that I am a mad Orangeman or something. I want to move down and integrate totally. I have spent lots of time with my relatives in Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan and Dublin but it is a thing that concerns me. Take the example, I get a job with a company in Dublin but I have my Northern accent and my name as well which would probably be considered totally Protestant. Despite the fact that I love Ireland and don't want to be pigeonholed is it inevitable that I would be? I take people as I find them but would the same courtesy be afforded to me? If this is the wrong forum then mods feel free to relocate the post. I just want some people to give me real answers. It is potentially a big move.

Ireland has changed so much mate on both sides of the border. You'll be fine! But as the rest of the posters have said , there are a few arseholes that might say something. I think the Ireland Vs England game in croker showed the world how much everything has changed.

listermint

Seriously, have you spent time in the republic. you say you have... Ive never met anyone who has had issue with anyones religion. People have more things to be worried about these days. Move if it makes you happy.

prendy

say three hail marys and you'll be fine!:D

Quality

Quality wrote: »

YOu'd be a lot more welcome than those romas who were living on the m50 roundabout....

Ah but they were a bit of crack

boneless

I'm an atheist sharing a house with a Protestant and a Roman Catholic. Pity you are not Jewish... you could have moved in with us!!

I know many Northern Protestants in Dublin... never have problems except for the usual gob Sh!tes mouthing off. Dublin has moved on in the past 20 years!!

Agamemnon

You'll be more than welcome in the Republic, Jigsaw. The great majority of people down here could not care less what religion you are. I used to work with a northern Protestant who kept his background a secret until he "admitted" it on a night out. He was pleasantly surprised to discover no-one was bothered by it.

Dinter

You'll be grand. Sure once you've taken the Oath of Allegiance to the Republic in Leinster house and been baptised in sacred Liffey water into the one true faith you'll be given all the privileges of a second class citizen. Oh and try to learn the Fields of Athenry enough so that you can sing the chorus, kind of, and mumble the verses convincingly and you'll fit right in. A vague, undefined, but all consuming hatred for all things British except soccer and Sky 1 will allow you to go to Supermacs in safety.

RonMexico

Only found out the other day that my friend is protestant. I know him about 6 years. 6 years too long...oh I jest I jest. Just goes to show that it doesn't matter, religion is dying here anyway.

Maple

cannot see it being an issue.

copeyhagen

Jigsaw wrote: »

Take the example, I get a job with a company in Dublin but I have my Northern accent and my name as well which would probably be considered totally Protestant.

yeh, sick of all them proddy names, like jigsaw!!

hehe only jokin mate course theres a possibility u might meet the odd gimp, but its dublin, place is full of em!!

Popinjay

Anyone who cares where you're from or what you believe probably wouldn't be able to spell prod... prott... heathen anyway.

You'll be fine we're actually lovely here in Dublin. For the most part anyway.

moco

I'm from the North with a nordie accent and a protestant surname, living in Dublin and I've never had any problems! Unless you count people trying to talk to me with a northern accent a problem.:o

justsomebloke

once you are slightly ticked skinned you would be fine, cause just remember you will be the but of a lot of jokes at certain points.*

*I work in an office overlooking fairview park where there was a bomb scare a couple of months ago and the poor nordie bloke in the office got a lot of stick over that one

Dizzyblonde

I don't think many people these days care what religion anyone is.

Susannahmia

Jigsaw wrote: »

I was born a Protestant in Northern Ireland but for a variety of reasons (long story) I don't follow the traditional views you might expect (lots of Protestant relatives but they are all Irish born in the Republic of Ireland and are "Irish"). I am very tempted to move to Dublin because there are many more jobs there that I would like to do than in Belfast. I see myself as Irish in the fullest sense but I feel that I have to constantly prove myself or something. I am concerned that people will think that I am a mad Orangeman or something. I want to move down and integrate totally. I have spent lots of time with my relatives in Donegal, Monaghan, Cavan and Dublin but it is a thing that concerns me. Take the example, I get a job with a company in Dublin but I have my Northern accent and my name as well which would probably be considered totally Protestant. Despite the fact that I love Ireland and don't want to be pigeonholed is it inevitable that I would be? I take people as I find them but would the same courtesy be afforded to me? If this is the wrong forum then mods feel free to relocate the post. I just want some people to give me real answers. It is potentially a big move.

Don't worry nobody cares about any of that rubbish anymore, except for the odd scumbag and you are bound to meet those in any walk of life.

DJ_Spider

I am English and have been here for 2yrs. I have not really had any problems apart from one time on the Dart. I had 2 spanish students staying in my house and took them into the city to show them where the school was they were at. (Grafton St) There was a guy opposite us drinking cans. I could see he was looking over and then he asked me where I was from.

I politely said south west. He then launched into me telling the students I was ripping them off and I wouldn't put him up if he came to my house. He said he lived in a hostel and then as he left he pushed my head against the window. It didn't hurt, but the girl started crying. She thought it was all her fault.

I explained that some people have a problem with the English and it could have happened any time. He was looking for an excuse to show off. Thing is he didn't give a very good impression of the Irish!

But apart from that no probs really. In fact some people find the English accent sexeh! I was in the Army for 12 yrs and did not agree with us going into NI. I have no animosity (spelling?) towards anyone really. I believe in live & let live. We are all different and that's what makes the world.

But I do get angry with Johovah Witnesses. A friend of mine died because her parents wouldn't let the hospital do a blood transfusion. Johovah will save her they said, well he didn't :mad:

Just my 2c!

DJ Spider

Fwaggle

I'm from Glasgow, been living here 7 years and the worst I've gotten is this:

Them: Oh you're Scottish, whereabouts are you from?
Me: Glasgow
Them: Oh good Celtic fan then eh? Wink wink
Me: Rangers actually
Them: What? WTF are you doing in this country?
Me: :rolleyes:

Vast majority of people couldn't care less. Although back home people always ask me how I manage to live here without getting lynched. Unfortunately, its the Celtic jersey wearing scanger brigade that give weight to that stereotype and I'm sick of explaining that Irish people in general are not 'ra head scummers!

So anyway! It's grand, the decent people don't care and the ones that do are morons and are not worth the hassle anyway.

gillyfromlyre

Your very welcome to join us, besides a nasty stake burning incident which occured about 160 years ago, our locality has changed its attitude totally and we welcome northern folk now