www.ibood.com - Toshiba DVD Player €149 + 4 HD DVD's

briman1983

oshiba HD-EP10 High Definition DVD player + 4 HD movies « back

* Brand: Toshiba
* Type: HD-EP10
* DVD Video and HD DVD Video
* 1080p and 1080i Video output
* Compatible with audio CD / CD-DA / CD-R / CD-RW / DVD-R (video) / DVD ROM / DVD-RW (video) / DVD Video / HD DVD
* Sound: Dolby Digital Compatible / Dolby Digital Plus / Dolby True HD / DTS Compatible / DTS-HD (core) / NICAM Stereo (VHS)
* Interactive HD DVD capabilities
* Connections: Analogue 2 channel audio / Optical audio / Component video output / Ethernet (10/100BASE) / S-video / HDMI output / USB: 2
* Dimensions (B x H x D): 430 x 65.5 x 345 mm
* Weight: 4.1 kilo
* Including 4 HD movies: 300 / Blood Diamond / WTC / Dream Girls

Price: € 149,95
More Information
High Definition is hot! DVD films in DVD quality allow you, of course, to watch movies with a fine attention to detail, but High Definition DVD quality is even better! And this Toshiba HD-EP 10 High Definition DVD player supports HD DVD quality that gives you the most enjoyable and best possible images. It also supports the finest Surround Sound formats like Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby True HD, DTS, DTS-HD and Linear PCM. To demonstrate just how effective this player is, the package includes the films 300, Blood Diamond, WTC and Dream Girls in HD quality. With an HDMI out, a composite S-video and component video out, a digital optical out and two analogue outputs the player can be connected to the newest generation of televisions and sound systems. And the ethernet port that connects you to the internet opens up endless options as well! The ultra slim and sleek design that Toshiba is known for, will enhance your living room decor. Do you want to get the most out of your favourite movies and your HD television? Allow yourself to be blown away by this Toshiba HD-EP High Definition DVD player!

cherrio

a good deal, pixmania have it at 75eu dearer.

The tax man

Thanks for posting, just saved me doing it.:D:D

Might go for this.

Ghost Train

Decided to get one... looks like a good deal. Will probably be sold out quick, thanks for posting it here

Royale with Cheese

Is the future of hd-dvd not looking fairly uncertain?

alastair_doom

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Is the future of hd-dvd not looking fairly uncertain?

Yeah, but they're putting up one hell of a fight at the moment

I took the plunge too. £239 on play.com :eek:

cherrio

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Is the future of hd-dvd not looking fairly uncertain?

Only if you belive the hype;)

I wonder if this model is part of the 5 free HD DVD promotion? HD DVD player and 9 movies for 150 would be pretty sweet!:D

alastair_doom

cherrio wrote: »

Only if you belive the hype;)

I wonder if this model is part of the 5 free HD DVD promotion? HD DVD player and 9 movies for 150 would be pretty sweet!:D

Reading the form now.... Seems you have to buy the UK version from an authorized UK Toshiba reseller. Ibood sell in the uk, and the offer is available to Irish residents, so probably worth the cost of a stamp to try anyway, but i wont be disappointed if the say no.

briman1983

eolhc wrote: »

Decided to get one... looks like a good deal. Will probably be sold out quick, thanks for posting it here

no probs

MisterAnarchy

Must resist :eek:
Nice piece of kit.
Its £119.99 on Amazon I see.
If only I had a HD Tv .:D

IamBeowulf

What a deal! Is this one better?

http://www.films.ie/action-501858-B000W4EB22-Toshiba_HD_EP30_HD_DVD_Player_With_1080P_Full_HD3_Plus_7_Free_HD_DVDs_See_Below_For_Voucher.html

Fnz

Disappointing that there's no MPEG 4/Divx support. Is that a "last generation feature"?

IamBeowulf wrote: »

What a deal! Is this one better?

http://www.films.ie/action-501858-B000W4EB22-Toshiba_HD_EP30_HD_DVD_Player_With_1080P_Full_HD3_Plus_7_Free_HD_DVDs_See_Below_For_Voucher.html

Wow... the first review/comment on that link is from someone who gave the EP30 one star out of five... why?

Waste of money - this does NOT play Blu-ray

He/she goes on to mention "Toshiba's increasing heavy losses in the format war" but what a ridiculous comment.

Soarer

IamBeowulf wrote: »

What a deal! Is this one better?

http://www.films.ie/action-501858-B000W4EB22-Toshiba_HD_EP30_HD_DVD_Player_With_1080P_Full_HD3_Plus_7_Free_HD_DVDs_See_Below_For_Voucher.html

Yeah it is.
The EP30 replaced the EP10, from what I know.

The one above ships through amazon.co.uk though, and they won't ship to Ireland!

stevejazzx

Aren't nearly all the major studios gone blu ray exclusive now?

IamBeowulf

Does anyone have the link to the Free 5 HDDVD Offer? I'm gonna check and see if I could end up getting 9 movies

cherrio

Linky for the 5 free HD DVD movie offer.

It seems that it is part of the deal, seems so from play.com any way.

alastair_doom

Dear iBOOD’ians,

In the product description of the Toshiba HD DVD player is stated that the movies WTC, Dream Girls, Blood Diamond and 300 are included. Unfortunately the movie Blood Diamond is not in stock at the moment and that’s why 5 movies are going to be included with the HD DVD player. Instead of Blood Diamond the movies The Borne Supremacy and Black Rain will be included in HD quality.

Team iBOOD

via:
http://ibood.com/site/eu/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=1&topic=1338&page=1

syboit

Fnz wrote: »

Disappointing that there's no MPEG 4/Divx support. Is that a "last generation feature"?

Wow... the first review/comment on that link is from someone who gave the EP30 one star out of five... why?

He/she goes on to mention "Toshiba's increasing heavy losses in the format war" but what a ridiculous comment.

I'm sure I read some-where the EP30 wasnt as good with video processing as some of the previous models, and apparently slow boot times!

stevejazzx wrote: »

Aren't nearly all the major studios gone blu ray exclusive now?

Nearly, Universal and Paramount still HD-dvd exclusive.

BFassassin

So whats the general consencous on this? Is it a good deal or not?
I would like to get one but after just buying a car funds are low at the minute

charlesodowd

Its a good deal but your better off getting a multi player for both blu-ray and hd-dvd. It looks like there will be no outright winner in this format battle.

TVDX

A dual format player would be nice, but at 999.99, theres a bit of a difference on the price point.

149.99 + 12 postage is good for this player.
I'd pay extra(approx 360 online with postage) for the HD-EP35.
That can output True HD audio via the analogue audio outputs.

The_Conductor

Warner announced at CES that they will no longer do releases in both HD-DVD and Bluray- they are going solely Bluray. Toshiba cancelled their conference at CES immediately after this announcement. Microsoft was the main proponent of HD-DVD, its thought that it financed the format war to try to encourage online content distribution- thinking there would be a re-run of the VHS-Betamax wars of the late 70s. The simple fact is- PS3s come with an (software) upgradeable Bluray drive as standard- while the X-Box has a HD-DVD add-on, its expensive and not readily available.

HD-DVD has also not implemented disk regionalisation, which Bluray has had from the outset- a big selling point to the studios who view Europe and elsewhere as lucrative backwaters that don't warrant the same attention as the main US market.

When I saw the Ibood offer this morning I laughed- thinking it was a ploy to shift stock that will shortly be without content and obsolete. I haven't changed my mind and would advise to exercise caution as this has for all intensive purposes lost the format wars.

Soarer

HD isn't dead.
And with Toshiba knocking the prices of their player down to <€200, it won't be dead for a while yet.
People aren't ready to splash out €500+ on a BD player, especially since the format isn't even fully finalised.

It's like the 360 V's PS3 all over again.
The 360 games consistantly outsell the PS3's because there are more 360's in homes.
Toshiba are looking to do the same with HDDVD. Flood the market with cheap players, and disc sales will follow suit.

Those that think this "war" is finished are being very narrow minded imo.

Mad_Max

Given that the big movie makers are on-board with blu-ray youd have to figure it would be theirs for the taking.

With this, and the HD-DVD players getting cheaper, Blu-ray players will most likely come down too.

Also the biggest adult movie maker is also being allowed distribute on Blu-Ray. Don't underestimate the effect this might have

Soarer

Ordered it anyway.
5 free discs, with the possibility of another 5 from Toshiba, makes it too good to turn down.
On my confirmation email, it gives a delivery time of 1-5 days. How likely is that?

311

Mad_Max wrote: »

With this, and the HD-DVD players getting cheaper, Blu-ray players will most likely come down too.

That won't happen soon ,HD-dvd has the edge with low prices.
This is a good thing that is happening ,makes things more competetive in the long run. I don't fancy buying expensive blu-ray discs forever:(

rkeane

hd-dvd is finished, get over it. :rolleyes:

Ruu_Old

Ah it'll be another dust collector anyway along with the video recorder, old sky box and mini disc if HD-DVD goes flop soon. That said, I do see a lot more adverts for films on HD-DVD than Blu-ray in the US. Anyway at that price, hard to resist.

mcgovern

rkeane wrote: »

hd-dvd is finished, get over it. :rolleyes:

So is Bluray, embrace the future that is online distribution

alastair_doom

rkeane wrote: »

hd-dvd is finished, get over it. :rolleyes:

I thought this a week ago too, but now im starting to think Toshiba and the HD-DVD consortium may have done enough to save it.
HDDVD players are a third the price of BR players, meaning that the market isn't only going to be decided by those with ALOT of disposable income any more.
With the amount of HDDVD players sold this past week alone, theres gonna be enough of a surge in disk sales to give the likes of Warner pause for thought, and thankfully Sony are too cocky to do anything too major to try to finish HDDVD off.

We all know its the American market that'll decide the next format war, and predictions are all doom and gloom with regards an impending recession, so i think for the general market, BluRay may seem like a bit of a steep investment.

*IMHO

Davy

Soarer wrote: »

Ordered it anyway.
5 free discs, with the possibility of another 5 from Toshiba, makes it too good to turn down.
On my confirmation email, it gives a delivery time of 1-5 days. How likely is that?

End of next week if your lucky i would say.
And im not sure about the extra 5 discs, i think its serial number connected so might not work,, hope im wrong though

IamBeowulf

Instead of Blood Diamond you get Black Rain AND Bourne Supemacy! Awesome!

branners69

I also jumped on the HD-DVD band wagon, for €162 + free flix you cant go wrong!

I now have the PS3 for blu ray and this so I can select the bargains as they come up!

Another advantage is the ability to make the EP10 region free, well so I heard?

IamBeowulf

It involves hacking the firmware, which can be risky and completely invalidates the warranty. Perhaps the safer option would be to buy a region free deck solely for DVDs

beolight

01.31 another day another ibood

was debating this all day my wife will be glad i didnt take the plunge:)

TVDX

HD-DVD is region free.
When your talking about the EP-10 and region functionality that only refers to SD discs.

The format war is far from over.
When your talking about sales figures either for Blu ray or HD-DVD, they represent a tiny % of the DVD market buying into High definition home video.

The DVD market is massive and I don't know the exact figures but I would be very surprised if even 1% of all DVD consumers worldwide have yet made the switch to a new format and are actively involved in purchasing a particular format.

When those consumers finally decide there is a better format out there than DVD and that they need something in HD for their new HD Ready TV(which most wont have for a few years yet), what are they going to look for in terms of home video?.
Well, they are already familiar with DVD and their TV is HD, so it's a no brainer that they are going to need HD-DVD.
Name recognition will win this one and everyone knows DVD.
To the average consumer, what on earth is a "Blue ray"?.
It makes no sense.

By the time the DVD audience is HD ready and they are looking for something different HD DVD will be there waiting.

How can you expect a sony backed format to survive?.
Look at the other Sony backed formats that have more or less died a death.
Betamax(obviously), Minidisc and UMD.


HD-DVD will take over the home video market while blu ray will be useful for computer users for storage etc.

The_Conductor

TVDX wrote:

Betamax(obviously), Minidisc and UMD.


HD-DVD will take over the home video market while blu ray will be useful for computer users for storage etc.

I disagree.
First of all- re: the Betamax market- Sony lost the format war in the consumer market because they refused to licence the format to others. Betamax did actually have a long and healthy life (over 25 years) in the professional market- every TV station in the world worth their salt used it as their format of choice.
Sony have not made the same mistake with Blu-Ray. They have licenced the format far and wide- the only reason HD-DVD survived as long as it did was the bucket loads of marketing money Microsoft threw at firms who were willing to push it. If you include the Playstation 3 owners- there are slightly over 9 times more Bluray capable players installed worldwide than there are HD-DVD players. It took off more slowly than HD-DVD because of a component shortage (particularly the diode necessary to read the disks) but once this manufacturing bottleneck was overcome (by Toshiba- Bluray's arc-rival) it has been all speed ahead. In the past 9 months the cost of producing a PS3 player has fallen to just under US$200- so Sony is well positioned to really take the war to HD-DVD. Curiously- the Cell processor used in the PS3 is also now a Toshiba product- they really have thier feet in both camps.

Re: Bluray only useful for Computer users as storage- certainly it will be useful for them as storage- but in exactly the same way that DVDs took over for storage purposes (for the most part)- if you get enough of an installed base of users using it- it will once again come back to the consumer market- yet again.

Sony's biggest problem to date has been a lack of "must-have" games- akin to "Halo" on the X-Box 360 to really push Bluray players- by way of games consoles into the home. Keep in mind- many people are buying PS3s as Bluray players in the first instance, and as games consoles secondary- so the market is really muddied there. It was argued originally that the installed base of PS3s was not a representative market for the purposes of estimating the size of the Bluray market- as not everyone with one will buy a movie- but in practice this has not proven to be the case.

The last week of sales figures for Bluray versus HD-DVD disks in the States, inspite of the massive marketing campaign from the HD-DVD camp, was a resounding 7-to-1 in favour of Bluray, even when bundled purchases are taken into account (week 2-2008).

Perhaps some studios may continue to support the format going forward- unlike Betamax which died a death in the consumer market, as content was simply unavailable- but its not a problem that Sony will have to face with Bluray this time round- they shortcircuited the issue, they own a chunk of the content by having their own studio......

Personally I think the HD-DVD offers going are a case of buying a few films, and getting a free player on which to show them. Not so much a good business model?

branners69

smccarrick wrote: »

...was a resounding 7-to-1 in favour of Bluray...

Any chance of backing this up with a link? I really dont pay much heed to any statistics because every article I read contradicts the last one!

I dont understand why both formats cant just live side by side, I now have both formats covered and eventually dual players will drop in price!

I remember my first Pioneer 717 dvd player set me back 750 punt at the time. Everyone thought I was mad, saying similar things to whats being said on this thread but yet within 5 years DVD was the standard format as I believe both HD -DVD and blu ray will be in another 5 years!

The fact that HD-DVD players can be hacked to be region free is a huge benefit and to me well worth the chance of invalidating the warranty. I have over 600 dvds and at least 250 of them are Region 1 so I wasnt too impressed that I couldnt play them in my PS3 at least they can upscaled in my EP10 when I eventually receive it!

The_Conductor

branners69 wrote:

Any chance of backing this up with a link?

Link 1 and Link 2


And comparable European statistics are 3:1 in favour of bluray link here

Cheers,

S.

savemejebus

There are npd figures that back up smccarrick. You can read about them and see a visual representations here http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa149.html#npd

Soarer

Wonder what the figures will be in a month or two after Toshiba's flooding of the market with their HD players.

savemejebus

It probably depends on whether people see them as trying to gain market share or simply trying to clear out stock. Perception will be very important in that area.

The_Conductor

Toshiba's marketting department are repositioning their advertising to sell the players as an "Upscaling DVD player"- moving away from focusing on its HD-DVD capabilities altogether.

Fnz

An interesting tidbit:

smccarrick wrote: »

Keep in mind- many people are buying PS3s as Bluray players in the first instance, and as games consoles secondary- so the market is really muddied there.

At a CES 2008-held press conference in Las Vegas earlier this month, spokespersons for the Blu-ray Disc Association confirmed that approximately 3.5 million Blu-ray players have been sold to date (500,000 of which were standalone players; the remaining three million were PS3). [Link]

According to research by the NPD Group, only 40% of PlayStation 3 owners polled were aware the machine had a Blu-ray player and about 50% of that number had popped in a Blu-ray movie during the last 10 times they turned on the machine -- the other half didn't use the feature. [Link]

Mad_Max wrote: »

Also the biggest adult movie maker is also being allowed distribute on Blu-Ray. Don't underestimate the effect this might have

Eugh! No thanks - I don't need, or want, to see that much detail in adult movies. I'd choose* the 'airbrushed' standard definition over the 'warts (hairs, blemishes) and all' detail of HD.


* if I was into that sort of thing...


*cough*

Snake Plisken

savemejebus wrote: »

There are npd figures that back up smccarrick. You can read about them and see a visual representations here http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa149.html#npd

Ah the Blu Ray Fan boys are out in force on Boards :rolleyes: talking mostly Pro-Sony sh-ite while their at it, for example Mr Hunt who runs the above website has always been a blu-ray fanboy, check out the main us HiDef forums in the US AVSforums if you don't believe me so ignore that link, as for the massive HD-DVD campaign there hasn't been one, but lets just look at the studios that are still 100% behind HD-DVD and look at what exclusives we can look forward too in 2008
Cloverfield
Iron Man
Star Trek (11)
The Scorpion King: Rise of the Akkadian
Jurassic Park IV
Creature from the Black Lagoon (Remake)
The Incredible Hulk
The Incredible Shrinking Man (Remake)
The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Death Race
Bee Movie
Beowulf
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
World War Z
When Worlds Collide (Remake)
The Warriors (Remake)
Ant Man (Marvel Comics adaptation)
The Spiderwick Chronicles
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Ghost Town (Rick Gervais' Ghostbusters style comedy)
American Gangster
Charlie Wilson's War

Also we are going to be getting The Indiana Jones Trilogy & the Godfather trilogy.

So to say the war is a load of rubbish.

Also Blu-Ray is still playing catch up on HD-DVD ffs they haven't even released profile 2.0 which will bring the players in line with what HD-DVD have been offering since the beginning! And they have admitted that they rushed the product to market due to HD-DVD launch.

I'm not a HD-DVD fanboy I support both formats and have over 50 movies on each format.

For those going for this deal you won't be dissappointed, I have a Toshiba HD-E1 and I'm very happy with it, and at this price you can't go wrong:)

savemejebus

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Ah the Blu Ray Fan boys are out in force on Boards :rolleyes: talking mostly Pro-Sony sh-ite while their at it, for example Mr Hunt who runs the above website has always been a blu-ray fanboy, check out the main us HiDef forums in the US AVSforums if you don't believe me so ignore that link, as for the massive HD-DVD campaign there hasn't been one, but lets just look at the studios that are still 100% behind HD-DVD and look at what exclusives we can look forward too in 2008
....
[insert list of movies, most of which won't be out on optical media till mid/late 2008/early 2009]

Also we are going to be getting The Indiana Jones Trilogy & the Godfather trilogy.

So to say the war is a load of rubbish.

Also Blu-Ray is still playing catch up on HD-DVD ffs they haven't even released profile 2.0 which will bring the players in line with what HD-DVD have been offering since the beginning! And they have admitted that they rushed the product to market due to HD-DVD launch.

I'm not a HD-DVD fanboy I support both formats and have over 50 movies on each format.

For those going for this deal you won't be dissappointed, I have a Toshiba HD-E1 and I'm very happy with it, and at this price you can't go wrong:)

Seeing as you quoted me, i guess you're calling me a fanboy. I'm not but if it makes you feel better think of me as a fanboy. I have to say though that i do find it funny that you call me a fanboy because my source for independent info is what you call a pro blu-ray site (it's up on high def digest now too, which is supposedly pro hd-dvd by the way if that makes you happier) and then you direct people to AVS forums which according to all i've read is the home of the most dedicated HD-DVD forum on the web.

As to my being a fanboy, i don't think i ever said anything against HD-DVD, i certainly never mentioned technical points (lower storage space), missing features (lossless audio), MS propping up the format, the retardedness of HD-DVD Exclusive selling points like 'live community screening' or 'share your favourite scene' or anything like that :rolleyes: nor did i mention blu-ray exclusive movies that are/will be out within the next decade;).

But still i must be a fanboy because you said it in a post that essentially does all the above things to blu-ray while claiming not to be a hd-dvd fanboy. :eek:

Anyhow back on topic, i'm sure whoever got this deal will enjoy it. Let us know when your players arrive and what you think.

chilli_pepper

briman1983 wrote: »

oshiba HD-EP10

I am glad I didnt buy one of these given the debates going on over BR vs HD ..

Snake Plisken

your right savemejesus, but i wasn't really calling you that, I was merely pointing out that digitalbits are BD fanboys, but rkeane and smmcarrick are deffo BD's biggest fanboy's on this thread, so sorry if I offended you, your obviously purple like me

savemejebus

no probs Snake (you'll probably post "call me plisken" now - boy am i a nerd but i digress).

You're dead right about digitalbits being pro blu, though it is nice that they are very open about it. I posted the info because it was NPD but from all the places i saw it Digitalbits had the nicest graphs .

branners69

Just got an email from iBood that my order has been shipped earlier today! Happy days!!

alastair_doom

branners69 wrote: »

Just got an email from iBood that my order has been shipped earlier today! Happy days!!

Me too. Great news. I was afraid they were going to have trouble sourcing them because there were so many Toshibas sold in the past week.