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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Yes, I have - loads of times. If the match is crap, I'll change channel. Same way Ive been to see Kilkenny City, who inspired this thread, a few times. The matches were awful so I had no intention of going to see them again. Whats your point?

    I just fail to believe that if you went to a few eL games that everyone would be sh*te. Plus it's live football. That in itself is a great thing. I'm not saying give up your armchair, just get the best of both worlds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Why exclusively English teams though? I support an English team, an Irish team, a team from the States, a team from Canada... whoever the f*ck I want to as well.

    The only thing about supporting an Irish team is its so bloody handy to go and watch live football, which is the true essence of the sport.

    I support one team, but I follow many. It just so happens that none of them are Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    It doesn't "go against the very nature of supporting a team" in the slightest. Not going to matches does though.

    And that isn't a dig at you either.

    Dont worry i aint taking it as a dig to me. i go to matches as regularly as i can.

    to me, it does go against the nature of following a team, pet hate of mine is people who follow Liverpool and Celtic, United and Barcelona etc etc. who the **** do you support if the teams meet?!?!?!?!?!

    Maybe its somewhat different with the EL cause they aint realistically gonna face any of the big english clubs in Europe, but i aint so sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    I just fail to believe that if you went to a few eL games that everyone would be sh*te. Plus it's live football. That in itself is a great thing. I'm not saying give up your armchair, just get the best of both worlds.

    Im sorry but why is it so hard to believe that the EL doesnt appeal to me? Ive been to matches, and for whatever reason, I didnt enjoy them. Thats the impression they left on me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Stekelly wrote: »
    So I take it your saturdays/sundays are (were) spent down the local park watching a game instead of the premiership on tv , even when City are on?

    Sunday mornings were yes because I watched a game then played mine then went home. At senior level I played Saturday afternoon. And I've never had Sky.

    Oh and I was a journalist who covered local games so yeah I spent every Sunday watching local league and thoroughly enjoyed it no matter the standard.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    to me, it does go against the nature of following a team, pet hate of mine is people who follow Liverpool and Celtic, United and Barcelona etc etc. who the **** do you support if the teams meet?!?!?!?!?!

    Wear one jersey over the other and make numerous quick trips to the toilet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Archimedes wrote: »
    Im sorry but why is it so hard to believe that the EL doesnt appeal to me? Ive been to matches, and for whatever reason, I didnt enjoy them. Thats the impression they left on me.

    I'm sure you've not enjoyed United games. Didn't stop you watching the next week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    bump: kilkenny city


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,520 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    Maybe it's time for the FAI to start thinking about following rugby's lead and create 4 provincial teams, which would have enough money in the coffers, to attract a caliber of player rivaling the premiership, keep good players in Ireland, and possibly having a shot at the Champion's League.

    There are of course many problems with this idea, but it's worth considering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Maybe it's time for the FAI to start thinking about following rugby's lead and create 4 provincial teams, which would have enough money in the coffers, to attract a caliber of player rivaling the premiership, keep good players in Ireland, and possibly having a shot at the Champion's League.

    There are of course many problems with this idea, but it's worth considering.
    As a separate thing to the Eircom League yeah?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    The reason I support United is because they were the first team I ever saw playing. They were playing Liverpool, and because my brothers were Liverpool fans, naturally I backed for United and it just stuck. My affection for the club grew over the years and yes, youre right - there have been matches I havent enjoyed and I have watched next week. Thats my affection for the club showing but I just find it impossible to grow an affection for an EL side at this age. Maybe if my Dad had brought me to a few Kilkenny City matches as a child things would be different, but he didnt because he didnt like the EL either - maybe for the same reasons. So don't blame me for that, the problem lies with the FAI where they would rather arrange glamour friendlies and squander the money on a ridiculously overpaid manager who will ultimately fail for the national team. Non EL fans are not the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    Blisterman wrote: »

    There are of course many problems with this idea, but it's worth considering.

    No it isnt. There'd be no league for them to play in for starters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Archimedes wrote: »
    The reason I support United is because they were the first team I ever saw playing. They were playing Liverpool, and because my brothers were Liverpool fans, naturally I backed for United and it just stuck. My affection for the club grew over the years and yes, youre right - there have been matches I havent enjoyed and I have watched next week. Thats my affection for the club showing but I just find it impossible to grow an affection for an EL side at this age. Maybe if my Dad had brought me to a few Kilkenny City matches as a child things would be different, but he didnt because he didnt like the EL either - maybe for the same reasons. So don't blame me for that, the problem lies with the FAI where they would rather arrange glamour friendlies and squander the money on a ridiculously overpaid manager who will ultimately fail for the national team. Non EL fans are not the problem.

    It certainly doesn't help when you've got half the nation saying you're a joke. We all know the big wigs are a disaster. That's no reason to turn your back on our national league to be fair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    And it certainly doesn't help when its fans are bitter and arrogant towards non EL fans. My back isnt turned because I dislike the FAI, my back is turned because the FAI have made no effort to bring the league to my attention when I was young and most impressionable. I didnt know the EL even existed until I was at least 10 years old...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    I'm seriously conflicted here.

    I support Shels, do my bit for the EL, nowhere near what some of you do but I do my bit.

    Now with all this talk of Sporting Fingal entering the 1st Division in Kilkenny's place, and Bohs moving to Harristown, I've realised that both sides will be closer to my current abode than Tolka Park (and I grew up in Portrane, and played Gaelic Football on Turvey Avenue as a youngster) is.

    Do I continue to support the EL side I've supported since I first say Ray Duffy awkwardly head a ball clear from the Shels back 4, or support my local team(s)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Shels are still a local team. Drogheda would probably be nearer to me(harder to get to though) than Shels but Shels are still a local team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The EL should have it's own forum. This thread has happened way too many times, and going over it again and again is not solving anything.

    It's like a toilet thread on After Hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    I'm seriously conflicted here.

    I support Shels, do my bit for the EL, nowhere near what some of you do but I do my bit.

    Now with all this talk of Sporting Fingal entering the 1st Division in Kilkenny's place, and Bohs moving to Harristown, I've realised that both sides will be closer to my current abode than Tolka Park (and I grew up in Portrane, and played Gaelic Football on Turvey Avenue as a youngster) is.

    Do I continue to support the EL side I've supported since I first say Ray Duffy awkwardly head a ball clear from the Shels back 4, or support my local team(s)?

    Stay supporting Shels, here's why:

    Bohs are scum.:p
    Sporting Franchise will last about 3 seasons.:D
    And Shels need the money.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    astrofool wrote: »
    The EL should have it's own forum. This thread has happened way too many times, and going over it again and again is not solving anything.

    It's like a toilet thread on After Hours.

    If you knew it was gonna be like this then why read/post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Blisterman wrote: »
    Maybe it's time for the FAI to start thinking about following rugby's lead and create 4 provincial teams, which would have enough money in the coffers, to attract a caliber of player rivaling the premiership, keep good players in Ireland, and possibly having a shot at the Champion's League.

    There are of course many problems with this idea, but it's worth considering.

    Well considering people complain about trying to get to stadiums in Dublin, I can just imagine the moaning which would go on with regards to this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    astrofool wrote: »
    The EL should have it's own forum. This thread has happened way too many times, and going over it again and again is not solving anything.

    It's like a toilet thread on After Hours.


    Or just have an Englsih forum, a Scottish forum and an Irish forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    astrofool wrote: »
    The EL should have it's own forum. This thread has happened way too many times, and going over it again and again is not solving anything.

    It's like a toilet thread on After Hours.

    Maybe the Premiership should have its own forum. This is an Irish site after all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    MrJoeSoap wrote: »
    Maybe the Premiership should have its own forum. This is an Irish site after all.


    ha ha ha, well played! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    DesF wrote: »
    My dad never took me to Tolka Park in his life.


    if only we were all like you Des.

    I dunno, if ppl arent interested in watching the EL then they arent interested. the onus isnt on football fans to save the clubs, its up to the clubs to attract the fans. its business, its the same thing as say Tesco eliminating local shops etc.
    welcome to the 21st century


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Jazzy wrote: »
    if only we were all like you Des.

    I dunno, if ppl arent interested in watching the EL then they arent interested. the onus isnt on football fans to save the clubs, its up to the clubs to attract the fans. its business, its the same thing as say Tesco eliminating local shops etc.
    welcome to the 21st century

    I hate this analogy. Keep the business to the businessmen. Lets keep the football to the football fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,103 ✭✭✭estebancambias


    I honestly find the atmospheres at these matches terrible. I think the EL is damn good in terms of competiveness but not for banter at matches. I'm sure its good if your 'in' with the regs though.
    I think the reason for this is:

    1.Number of clubs in Dublin; Cork City seem to have a good turnout.
    2.A social thing: I can't explain this.
    3.Lack of knowledge of oppositin players.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Can you name me one other country in Europe which has an obession which foriegn clubs? I know the Liverpool army with mention Spain or Scandinavia but the fact is their national league don't suffer as a result.

    Would you support the Irish International side as a matter of interest?


    True, but it is nothing new is it? English football has had a huge following here for years and years.

    I have to say personally I don't support the Irish International side unless their was an Arsenal connection with the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Villain wrote: »
    Your all talking about a Foreign sport, you should be ashamed our forefathers didn't die for you Eircom Leagues fans to support a foreign sport or for you Premier League fans to follow teams in that awful country that opressed us. Support GAA or support you


    Wait no that opinion is as about as old and sad as EL fans demanding fans of soccer follow teams that make a very sad attempt of playing the game.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,645 ✭✭✭raheny red


    Savman wrote: »
    Hmmm...dunno about that.

    It is, the clubs have to take full responsibility for their own demise.
    DesF wrote: »
    To the people who say the standard is shíte,

    How many eL games have you been to in your lifetime?

    You cannot judge a league on one game, five games or ten games, imo.

    It is ****e, but it's like a girlfriend you just love to hate but can't stay away :)



    And FFS Gav there was no need to open this can of worms for at least another 4 or 5 weeks :rolleyes: :D - no seriously could a mod lock this ****e?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 45 Resistance


    Sad to see Kilkenny go another dark day for our league:(


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