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Ze Premiership Weekend Thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I know it's hilarious alright...I'm not sure if they're being serious or not though, there's a thin line between the two especially on an internet forum!

    Oh they're being serious alright. It's always sunny around Ronaldo's arse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Am I missing something here? Who had a dig? All that was said was that he was average. How is that a dig?

    If O'Shea, Fletcher etc had an average game they'd be slated and called sh*te. Ronaldo plays average and it becomes the unmentionable. Ridiculous.

    As I said I'm not referring to this thread alone. It's not that Ronaldo is beyond criticism. It's more a case of how can the best player in the league also be pretty much the most criticised player on this forum? It doesn't make much sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    DSB wrote: »
    As I said I'm not referring to this thread alone. It's not that Ronaldo is beyond criticism. It's more a case of how can the best player in the league also be pretty much the most criticised player on this forum? It doesn't make much sense.

    Simple. Because he dives and tries to cheat. If he didn't do that people couldn't complain. That in itself leaves you open for criticism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    DSB wrote: »
    As I said I'm not referring to this thread alone. It's not that Ronaldo is beyond criticism. It's more a case of how can the best player in the league also be pretty much the most criticised player on this forum? It doesn't make much sense.

    because when people go round ****ting about how good he is and totally ignore the negative aspects to his game, other people like to point out his faults. human nature. gerrard/drogba get the same treatment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Simple. Because he dives and tries to cheat. If he didn't do that people couldn't complain. That in itself leaves you open for criticism.

    and before anyone jumps on this for examples, he did it today.

    Mr Alan wrote: »
    . gerrard/drogba get the same treatment.

    No no , only Ronaldo. The only time Gerrard ever gets mentioned is for us and oppostion fans to say what a jolly good game he had.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Simple. Because he dives and tries to cheat. If he didn't do that people couldn't complain. That in itself leaves you open for criticism.

    Alot of players do. I could pick almost any club, and there'd be someone who you could call a diver. And lets not get into quantities of dives because its been way overdone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    DSB wrote: »
    Alot of players do. I could pick almost any club, and there'd be someone who you could call a diver. And lets not get into quantities of dives because its been way overdone.

    So Ronaldo is the only player who EVER gets criticised for diving? Not Gerrard, Drogba, that lad for Portsmouth last year whose name escapes me but did a horrible one last year? Come on out of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    DSB wrote: »
    And lets not get into quantities of dives because its been way overdone.

    bollox to that, i have yet to see a Utd supporter on this site admit that Ronaldo is currently by a MILE the most prolific diver among the top PL teams

    all they do is point out that Gerrard has dived too, everyone has taken a dive, i agree, some do it more than others and Ronaldo does it wayyyy more than most.

    frequency is very relevant to this conversation, people hate the likes of Barton,Diouf,Thatcher because they continuously bring the game into disrepute with their behaviour, they dont criticise Gerrard,Kuyt,Scholes who have also put in bad tackles because they can see that the fact the others do it ALL the time means they are worse. for some reason though, this doesnt make a difference when it comes to diving?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    Ronaldo is currently by a MILE the most prolific diver among the top PL teams


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭DSB


    I think he is the most prolific, but I wouldn't judge a serial killer of 64 any worse than a serial killer of 50(don't worry I understand the hilarity of using such an extreme example). If you're doing something wrong on a regular basis, I think thats enough.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Ronaldo and Robbie Keane have both matched their premiership goal haul from last season already. 3 more goals and Ronaldo will have the same amount as the top scorer last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I think ....


    That while Viper might be a terrible nickname, it'd be ****ing hilarious if the soccer forum managed to get it in common usage. I think we should set a goal, right here, right now, that next year we want some Commentator to call him the Viper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    DSB wrote: »
    (don't worry I understand the hilarity of using such an extreme example)

    you answered that post yourself above. not the same thing at all.

    i think the amount of criticism that should be levelled at a player should be relative to the frequency of his offences, eg. if ronaldo dived today, he deserves to be slated for it. if gerrard dives on monday, he deserves to be slated for it.

    pretty sure i know which will happen more regularly, to about the ratio of 100:1!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Is there anybody who is denying that Viper dives more than Gerrard? I don't think so. That said, Viper doesn't go on talking about how terrible it is that people dive, and how it's not something that he'd every do. Wow, that's about it, both players have flaws, who cares?
    Ronaldo and Robbie Keane have both matched their premiership goal haul from last season already. 3 more goals and Ronaldo will have the same amount as the top scorer last season.

    Anyone think that maybe, just maybe, Robbie is beginning to fulfill his potential, and that maybe, just maybe, he's gona join one of the big 4 before his career is over? I'd really like to see him at the highest level, I think he has the talent for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    PHB wrote: »
    Is there anybody who is denying that Viper dives more than Gerrard? I don't think so. That said, Viper doesn't go on talking about how terrible it is that people dive, and how it's not something that he'd every do. Wow, that's about it, both players have flaws, who cares?

    Stop it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    It'll happen :) Believe!

    I'm thinking I should reupload all of the Ronaldo videos on youtube to say Cristiano 'Viper' Ronaldo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I'm just gonna keep replying 'Who?' to every post with that sh1te in it. At least that'll be as annoying and stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    You know what they say, any publicity is good publicity :)
    I think you guys are missing an opportunity to influence the world here. Like we all accept it's a stupid nickname, but if we managed to get it used in general, there'd be a great sense of achievement :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    and no Utd player would do that would they PHB? cough cough!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiISmFrjO_A

    Thinkm you'll like that Xavi! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    No they would, and Roy was a man of many many flaws.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    you're being very reasonable tonight!? are you feeling alright?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    and no Utd player would do that would they PHB? cough cough!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiISmFrjO_A

    Thinkm you'll like that Xavi! ;)

    Ha so the real peron to blame is Fergie. Teaching his players to dive for two decades now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Viper :cool:

    Will he reach 30 premiership goals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I don't feel the need to defend Viper when he plays poorly, so I pretty much have nothing to say about it. That miss from Ferdinands cut back was particuarly bad. As for the rest of the stuff talked about, we already talked about it last week.

    I don't think Fergie teachs them to dive. I don't think he encourages in general either. I don't think he'd be unhappy to win a game by diving. I don't think he was particuarly happy with Ronaldos dive against Derby as it served absolutely no purpose and refs have been much harsher on him since. I don't think Fergie has a policy on diving that is any different to any other sensible manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    who's viper?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Viper :cool:

    Will he reach 30 premiership goals?
    PHB wrote: »
    I don't feel the need to defend Viper when he plays poorly, so I pretty much have nothing to say about it. That miss from Ferdinands cut back was particuarly bad. As for the rest of the stuff talked about, we already talked about it last week.

    Who's this now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Will he reach 30 premiership goals?

    I'm going to assume your talking about C.Ronaldo

    Dont think so. How many games have Utd played? 23? that means he has to alomst double his current goals in the next 15 games. 14 from 15 games, assuming he plays every game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Stekelly wrote: »
    I'm going to assume your talking about C.Ronaldo

    Dont think so. How many games have Utd played? 23? that means he has to alomst double his current goals in the next 15 games. 14 from 15 games, assuming he plays every game.

    Our Viper has enough venom to achieve that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    PHB wrote: »

    Anyone think that maybe, just maybe, Robbie is beginning to fulfill his potential, and that maybe, just maybe, he's gona join one of the big 4 before his career is over? I'd really like to see him at the highest level, I think he has the talent for it.


    Can't stand him,though of the big four teams maybe Liverpool might be the team for him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    17 goals in 18 games (plus 15 minutes against Villa).


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