Pull up Bar in lieu of Free wieghts and pull downs

Diamondmaker

Been a while

I have the pleasure of being based in Sunny Brisbane now and have not settled back into a routine. Have not been to a gyn in 7 weeks grrrr.

Visibly losing muscle !

Any way have been using the abundance of out door facilities here in Oz. mainly the chin up stations located at many beaches and parks.

Can anyone advise on the main differences doing a Pull up both hands together compared to a curl.

Wide arm, behind neck pull up as opposed to Pull downs or o/h bar bell.

Do these use completely opposite muscles??

Hanley

Well if you're into crossfit it's all you need to build muscle....

If you're into big arms then it'll probably help to prevent muscle loss and depeding on how hard you train on them you might actually see a bit of a gain out of it...

Wide grip + palms away = lats mainly, at least in my exp

Close grip + palms facing = bi's and lats

Diamondmaker

Raised foot Press ups aint cutting it as a Bench sub how ever.....

Is there any sub really? weights on back?...practical , not really...

Hanley

No idea... muscle ups and do dips on top of the bar maybe?

Diamondmaker

do dips? dude!

rubadub

I dont bench anymore, only do various dips & flyes on gymnastic rings on a chinning bar.

The originals are on sale now for only $50

http://ringtraining.com/store/classicrings.html

Easy to carry around and bring home with you. Loop over the bars you have over there easily.

I have heard behind the neck pullups can be harmful, and very wide grip is not much use due to limited ROM.

Way more muscles being used than curls. I love bodyweight exercises. I think it is since I am more confident, I workout at home with no spotter and am always worried about going near failure or equpiment failing. On the rings the worst that can really happen is I drop to the ground.

muscle ups and do dips on top of the bar maybe?

Have to be quite strong with good technique to get the muscle up though. And I do not like static dips on a straight bar, hurts at some point on a my collar bone, quite restrictive on the wrists. Dips on rings are very hard to do (at first), but very easy on the joints, really natural feel to them.

I am working up to be able to do 1 of these at the moment,
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/877664/15_ring_handstand_pushups/
15 is ridiculous!

Roper

Sandbags? A backpack can increase your resistance, hardly up to weights standards but you'll have to think outside the box.

Diamondmaker

Cool stuff!

WHy behind neck harmful?? My fave !

Anyhting to help the traps?? Dips work them too ?

Dragan

If push ups aren't testing you any more then try Tabatha push ups and see what your score is?

Also, ensure your doing full ROM push ups, chest forehead and thighs should all touch the ground at roughly the same time.

Diamondmaker

Roper wrote: »

Sandbags? A backpack can increase your resistance, hardly up to weights standards but you'll have to think outside the box.

Maybe I can lift the box

There are gyms every where , so ill just have to start hitting them sa pay as you go. Must stop decline. & weeks back packing and the subsequent lack of sleep, food and subsequent increase in alcohol are mainly to blame. I hhave worked a fair bit but diet to F*ck
!!

rubadub

Diamondmaker wrote: »

WHy behind neck harmful??

read it here, dunno how "true" it is

http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/7/

Worthless techniques 1) Wide grip pullups and 2) Pullups behind the neck. For some reason, boobybuilders think that a very wide grip makes for very wide lats! Ha! This is bogus for a few reasons, the first being the greatly reduced range of motion, the second being the greatly reduced leverage, and the third being the extreme stress on your rotator cuffs. Optimal leverage is extremely important in strength training.

Anyhting to help the traps

You can do upside down shrugs on the rings. You have them at dip height and hang arms by your side with your head near the ground and shrug. The ringtraining site has a forum that could help

Diamondmaker

Ringmaster !:D

will check it out, training out doors in sun ( Brizzy sun ) is very appealing to a swety packed gym !

Diamondmaker

Dragan wrote: »

If push ups aren't testing you any more then try Tabatha push ups and see what your score is?

Also, ensure your doing full ROM push ups, chest forehead and thighs should all touch the ground at roughly the same time.

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/tabataintervals.html

Burpees?!?!? this link?

Tabata not Tabatha...no result for latter !

Diamondmaker

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/tabataintervals.html

will do tomorrow, its 11pm here off to bed.

Any scores to report here to compare with ???