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Making gains

  • 17-01-2008 9:17am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37


    Hi Guys,

    I've seen in another thread about people making massive gains in their bench over the course of 6 months or so. I'm just wondering what the best way is to make gains... Lifting manageable weights for a lot of reps or lifting heavier weights but for only a small number of reps.

    Currently I'm in the gym 4 times per week - 2 upper body sessions and 2 lower body sessions. My lower body is progressing fine but I seem to only make little or no gains in my upper body sessions particulary my bench. Just wondering what the optimal routine is for making gains - heavy / lighter weights, few / many reps, how many sessions per week, etc.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,577 ✭✭✭Colm_OReilly


    For gains in strength, you need to be lifting heavy. Sets of 3-5 are optimal for this type of gain.

    Why are you splitting your routine?

    Check out this routine: www.startingstrength.net/workouts. People have recorded adding 40lbs of mass and up to 300lbs on their squat with this program.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Butty


    For gains in strength, you need to be lifting heavy. Sets of 3-5 are optimal for this type of gain.

    Why are you splitting your routine?

    Check out this routine: www.startingstrength.net/workouts. People have recorded adding 40lbs of mass and up to 300lbs on their squat with this program.


    Cheers for the advice.

    Basically I split my routine because of time. I don't spend more than an hour in the gym so was finding it difficult to get through the full routine as I also try to get a small bit of cardio in though generally I do this outside my gym workout. Is this not a good idea? Realistically how often should I be looking to lift to make gains and gain mass?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    I di the same workout (more or less) on the link Colm posted and it takes me about 35 minutes. I don't have to wait on equipment to become free etc. so obviously that might take up some time if you were doing that in a commercial gym. But I still don't think there's any reason why you shouldn't get it all in an hour.

    Personally, I think your cardio should be intense, intense enough so that you wouldn't be able to exert yourself for some considerable time afterwards. So I'd do cardio one day, lifting another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37 Butty


    Roper wrote: »
    I di the same workout (more or less) on the link Colm posted and it takes me about 35 minutes. I don't have to wait on equipment to become free etc. so obviously that might take up some time if you were doing that in a commercial gym. But I still don't think there's any reason why you shouldn't get it all in an hour.

    Personally, I think your cardio should be intense, intense enough so that you wouldn't be able to exert yourself for some considerable time afterwards. So I'd do cardio one day, lifting another.


    I would generally do cardio after weights so it's a bit different though I'm more focused on lifting at the moment so not so much an issue.

    Perhaps I'm trying to do too much rather than focusing on a smaller number of core exercises. My routines currently involve the following:

    Lower body days:
    Warmup (including some core work - abs etc)
    Leg raises
    Leg curls
    Calf raises
    Squats
    Deadlifts
    Some cardio

    Upper body days:
    Warmup (including some core work - abs etc)
    Bench press
    Bicep curls
    Dips
    Lat pulldowns
    Shoulder press
    Some cardio

    Would I be better to combine the two routines but use fewer exercises such as the ones outlined in the link above?

    Thanks again


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