Want to move jobs in the right way..

sygdsaugdyuysd

Have a problem in terms of a job which I’ve applied for, and it’s this.
I’m in say job A, applied for job B and I know for a fact that I am not liked by my current employer.
It’s mainly a personality thing, but things got nasty a while back when they tried to out me.
Anyway, I’ve gotten a better job and I’m planning my exit strategy.
My question is this, I may need to get a reference and my dilemma is I’m worried that my current employer may not speak too highly of me.
Now, they may say nice things if they want me gone but I’m worried if they get a call they mightn’t be too enthusiastic.
Or would an employer delighted to see you leave say how great you were!?
Also if employer B gets an enthusiastic review and doesn’t offer me the job I’ve still got to work with employer A.
What should I? There is a third employer, call her C, who I can count on getting a good review from and for whom I still do some consultancy work for.
Should I just list them as a referee?
Also when I have a debriefing before I leave how honest should I be?, Or not very honest and do the whole blah, blah great place, blah blah?!
When I leave should I tell them where Im moving on to, or not a word on it?

AARRRGH

It really depends on the boss.

Are you actually good at your job? Team player? Good time keeping?

If all the above are positive, then they'd really have to be ****ed to try to screw you over.

Personally, I would not use them as a reference. Use the third employer...

If the new company demands a second reference, give them your current job but make sure you speak to your manager about it beforehand.

the_syco

Use your best reference, not your latest reference. If he's an a$$hole, he may find it fun f**king your job prospects down the loo.

AARRRGH

the_syco wrote: »

Use your best reference, not your latest reference. If he's an a$$hole, he may find it fun f**king your job prospects down the loo.

Yeah, a lot of psychos make it into management. Play it safe and don't give your current job as a reference.

PauloMN

I'd never give a current employer as a reference, and it's unfair for a prospective employer to ask for one from your current employer.

A big huge international software company with an American owner called "Bill" does ask for references from current employers, in their Ireland offices anyway. I was surprised to be asked for such in an interview, and their HR person seemed just as surprised when I explained that I wasn't going to risk my current job by allowing a new prospective employeer to contact them about a job they might give me.

Obviously all discussions ended there.

kazzer

Also if employer B gets an enthusiastic review and doesn’t offer me the job I’ve still got to work with employer A.

They should really make you a provisional offer, on condition of a satisfactory reference, prior to asking for your referee. So I would not give those details until you have such a verbal understanding. But like others have suggested I would rather use another referee in your position.