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Big Sam Sacked?!?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    too many good players, although, i'd imagine a few might wanna leave now.

    Not one of them is performing though. Unless Owen comes back with a bang i think they could be in serious trouble.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,259 ✭✭✭✭Melion


    They are only 9 points above the relegation places. If Sunderland could put any kind of run together they'd push them.

    It could be a rugby score at Old Trafford this weekend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,562 ✭✭✭leeroybrown


    I think the main reason that Big Sam was sacked is that based on most reports I had heard he had fallen out with a decent proportion of the squad. Coming out and blaming the players the way he did wouldn't have helped much.

    Also, never talking to the BBC won't have done much for him up in Newcastle. I know Lord Ferg never does and a few others delegate the job from time to time but Big Sam will have been seen as just hiding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Pardon my ignorance but I never heard about this coaching badge thing until recently. What is the story with it? Its just that the likes of Keane and Stan walked into management completely out of the blue, whereas if they had taken this course or what have you people would have known it was imminent.

    Never mind betting on whether he will be appointed manager, I wonder can ya bet if he will be added to the rumours lis for us. Course he will :D

    Ive a feeling Shearer wont make a success of it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,579 ✭✭✭quad_red


    shane86 wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance but I never heard about this coaching badge thing until recently. What is the story with it? Its just that the likes of Keane and Stan walked into management completely out of the blue, whereas if they had taken this course or what have you people would have known it was imminent.

    Keane had been taking his coaching badges for years. Quite publicly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,404 ✭✭✭CantGetNoSleep


    shane86 wrote: »
    Pardon my ignorance but I never heard about this coaching badge thing until recently. What is the story with it? Its just that the likes of Keane and Stan walked into management completely out of the blue, whereas if they had taken this course or what have you people would have known it was imminent.

    Never mind betting on whether he will be appointed manager, I wonder can ya bet if he will be added to the rumours lis for us. Course he will :D

    Ive a feeling Shearer wont make a success of it though.
    I think they just did the coaching badges quietly during their later years as players


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Newcastle fan here.

    Hear me out please.

    Heard it on the radio in the car on the way home and i just thought to myself "Here we go again"

    Now i know everyone is calling us a laughing stock for sacking sam but listen to this.

    When Sam took over i was over the moon, because i thought Sam would be the man to finally bring us success, everyone should realise it was Shephard who appointed sam not mort and ashley.
    The football we have played under Sam has been the worst football that a newcastle united team has ever played in the past 10 years or so (any newcastle fan will confirm this)

    We were a laughing stock on too many occasions this season, getting hammered by portsmouth and liverpool at home, failing to beat derby county TWICE, not even getting a shot on target against wigan at the jjb. Now can anyone of you tell me that this is acceptable? It doesnt matter a bit that Sam has been in charge 8 months, there is absolutlely no excuse for that shít i have had to watch and every other newcastle fan has had to watch week in week out. Another thing, Sam took a HUGE risk signing Joey Barton and look how that turned out.
    Every Newcastle fan knew that Sam was not our man, the signs were there, i wasnt expecting to be in the top 6 or anything i was only expecting our team to be able to pass the fcuking ball, score a few goals and actually defend reaonably well, we havent done any of that this season, and that is why sam has been sacked.

    P.S Shearer will not take over, he has already been ruled out, and the majority of Toon fans DO NOT WANT him as manager, we all know he is too inexperienced but maybe some day he will take over.

    Sean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    I think they just did the coaching badges quietly during their later years as players

    yea thats wat most people do.

    poor Southgate didnt have time as he was SOOOOO busy representing England.

    pffffft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    We were a laughing stock on too many occasions this season, getting hammered by portsmouth and liverpool at home, failing to beat derby county TWICE, not even getting a shot on target against wigan at the jjb. Now can anyone of you tell me that this is acceptable? It doesnt matter a bit that Sam has been in charge 8 months, there is absolutlely no excuse for that shít i have had to watch and every other newcastle fan has had to watch week in week out. Another thing, Sam took a HUGE risk signing Joey Barton and look how that turned out.
    Every Newcastle fan knew that Sam was not our man, the signs were there, i wasnt expecting to be in the top 6 or anything i was only expecting our team to be able to pass the fcuking ball, score a few goals and actually defend reaonably well, we havent done any of that this season, and that is why sam has been sacked.

    Its called transition, Newcastle will need to go through a period where their football is not the best and they get bad results....its wat happens when managers try to change everything at a club, and be under no mistake, that is wat Newcastle need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,346 ✭✭✭✭KdjaCL


    Newcastle should have a Manager Idol DE DE DE DA DA DA*

    Each manager gets 45 minutes and a team talk, the manager whose team plays the sexiest attacking footballs and scores the most goals gets the job, but the public vote on €1 phone lines to see who gets the 45 minutes. Run it over a few weeks during the summer.

    The expert judges could be Stan Sam and Shearer!!!


    * if newcastle do this i will sue and refer to this post as proof that its my idea.



    kdjac


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭smog


    Newcastle fan here.

    Hear me out please.

    Heard it on the radio in the car on the way home and i just thought to myself "Here we go again"

    Now i know everyone is calling us a laughing stock for sacking sam but listen to this.

    When Sam took over i was over the moon, because i thought Sam would be the man to finally bring us success, everyone should realise it was Shephard who appointed sam not mort and ashley.
    The football we have played under Sam has been the worst football that a newcastle united team has ever played in the past 10 years or so (any newcastle fan will confirm this)

    We were a laughing stock on too many occasions this season, getting hammered by portsmouth and liverpool at home, failing to beat derby county TWICE, not even getting a shot on target against wigan at the jjb. Now can anyone of you tell me that this is acceptable? It doesnt matter a bit that Sam has been in charge 8 months, there is absolutlely no excuse for that shít i have had to watch and every other newcastle fan has had to watch week in week out. Another thing, Sam took a HUGE risk signing Joey Barton and look how that turned out.
    Every Newcastle fan knew that Sam was not our man, the signs were there, i wasnt expecting to be in the top 6 or anything i was only expecting our team to be able to pass the fcuking ball, score a few goals and actually defend reaonably well, we havent done any of that this season, and that is why sam has been sacked.

    P.S Shearer will not take over, he has already been ruled out, and the majority of Toon fans DO NOT WANT him as manager, we all know he is too inexperienced but maybe some day he will take over.

    Sean

    Agree with you comletely mate, rubbish style that doesn't suit ...
    just the timing and the "support" publicly given to him by mort/ashley in the past week is what gets to me. Like Shepard never left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    smog wrote: »
    Agree with you comletely mate, rubbish style that doesn't suit ...
    just the timing and the "support" publicly given to him by mort/ashley in the past week is what gets to me. Like Shepard never left

    and the almost constant boo-ing and questioning of his ability to do his job by Newcastles fans.

    sorry mate, but the fans are the main reason in my book.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    Its called transition, Newcastle will need to go through a period where their football is not the best and they get bad results....its wat happens when managers try to change everything at a club, and be under no mistake, that is wat Newcastle need.

    Dont get me wrong, I didnt mind one or two seasons finishing 10th and whatever, but i believe that a transition can take place without us playing our football in the fcuking championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Dont get me wrong, I didnt mind one or two seasons finishing 10th and whatever, but i believe that a transition can take place without us playing our football in the fcuking championship.

    and wat position are you in currently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Doesn't send out a good message either when the chairman is standing beside the people boo'ing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    and wat position are you in currently?

    11th?

    And have you seen the run of fixtures we have coming up next? We have one of the easiest first halves to a season that i can remember in a long and all we could manage was a measley 26 points, the way we were going it wasnt looking good.

    Look at Man City as a perfect example, they finished 14th last season, and look at them now!
    They absolutely outplayed us at St. James', im convinced we have better individual players than they do, but look what a manager who knows his shít can do, their whole team probably cant even speak to each other due to the varied languages and they play great football.

    We have a squad with class players like, Owen, Viduka, Martins, Smith, Duff, Milner, Barton, Emre, Butt and your telling me that its acceptable that we cant even beat Derby, or get shots on targer against the likes of Wigan, that its all about transition? No way José


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    Well we (liverpool) couldnt beat birmingham/barely beat Derby/drew with Wigan......you squad is too good to get relegated, as has as been said, anyone could keep that squad in the PL. all ye had to was give Sam a chance.

    Funny you say "no way Jose" . . . . ya reckon he'll want the job?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    but look what a manager who knows his shít can do

    so you think sam doesnt know wat he is doing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Not even appointing Steve Staunton at this stage could get them relegated tbf

    i think u underestimate just how crap staunton is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Mr Alan wrote: »
    so you think sam doesnt know wat he is doing?

    Yes thats exactly what i think about his time in charge of Newcastle.
    Get your hand on some of our matches weve played in the past few weeks and it is so obvious that the players dont understand whatever tactics he is trying to get them to play by.

    I warn you, its woeful viewing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    i've seen a few full newcastle games this year and i know wat ya mean but i was under the impression that over the last few weeks the performances had been getting better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    The only thing positive in the past few weeks was the Arsenal game and maybe the chelsea game, besides that, it has been a shambles.

    Even at the weekend, Stoke deserved to win, we were awful (view fa cup thread for proof) and Sam walks of the pitch with a giant grin on his face, not acceptable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    i aint ever gonna agree that they were right to sack him. they need to give someone time.

    as someone on SSN said, no one can attempt the job until after Shearer has attempted and fails/or succeeds. Otherwise the shadow he leaves looming over the club is just too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    ziggy wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    i agree, that he "could" make it as a manager, but its a massive gamble. one which i would never want my club to take.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭Sizzler


    Have to say its a crazyass decision. They werent playing brilliantly but they werent exactly in danger of going down.

    He only spent a net £10m in the summer and good aul Freddie hired him, 3 days later there was a new owner and Sheperd was on his bike with a saddlebag full of cash. Would Mike Ashley have hired Big Sam? Im guessing not.

    Realistically what do Newcastle fans expect? I was reading their fanzine editors comments on sportinglife and he said they want good football even if they dont get the results, back to the good aul Keegan days :rolleyes:

    Shearer hasnt got the neccessary badges by the looks of it and even if he is given dispensation to take the role a lá Southgate I dont think he will make them any better tbh, he has fook all experience, has he even coached a kids team :confused: As a previous poster said, he would prob get them relegated!! Now they have the uber experienced first team coach Nigel Pearson taking them to Old Trafford on Sat evening, the mind really does boggle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,555 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Newcastle is a club run by idiots with idiot fans, how they can give a new manager 8 months to turn them from the biggest laughing stock in football to a credible club I don't know, and they deserve to get relegated for their sheer utter undeniable cretinism, and hopefully they'll do a Leeds on it and play "sexy football" in the conference.

    The timing is absolutely braindead as well, it means a whole transfer window wasted hiring someone else, AND the players Sam got in are going to be wondering how soon they can get out of it.

    As I think it was Kdjcal said on the Newcastle thread, they'd be better up winding up the club, selling the stadium, and starting again with a 5 a side team and 4 jumpers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    post of the thread


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭Chong


    I will agree with Mr Alan, I cant believe I am agreeing with Mr Alan :).


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