City Bus fares gone up again!

Heisenberg.

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bill_ashmount

I'd heard about it a few weeks ago, think they had posters up. It was in the papers too.


Agree on the timetable part, brutal.

deRanged

the train went up this morning too - and was late to celebrate.

Stark

"We here at CIE would like to wish ourselves a Happy New Year".

10c, pretty big jump too. Normally the annual "Let's use inflation as an excuse to increase inflation" price hike is about 5c isn't it?

Agamemnon

Public transport in this country is a shambles. Most Eastern European countries have far more efficient systems and they don't have anything like the money we have in Ireland. Buses here are exceptionally bad, with fictional timetables and drivers making up their own routes. They should bring in a system whereby the fare goes down by 10c for every minute the bus is late, but it's more likely that we'll all travel to work on flying pigs first. Shower of incompetent ****.

BanzaiBk

It was advertised a bit alright, I often use 5/7/8 and saw the signs on them buses. So annoyed though, the service is getting worse every month. This whole malarkey of bus drivers stopping in the busstops on Patricks St. and jumping in the busses to have a chat with each other is a joke.

Was on the Dublin -> Cork train last night. Got the 8 o'clock train, "broke down" in Thurles. We had to wait 90 minutes for the 9 o'clock to come. Apparently train fares have gone up 5% aswell? Bah:(

Gauge

Have the orbital services gone up too? What about weekly/monthly passes?

BanzaiBk

A friend told me at lunch that the monthly city and city + suburban passes have gone up:( I'd presume the orbitals have gone up aswell.

Heisenberg.

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BanzaiBk

Anytime I saw the poster it was on the wall bit behind the drivers cab thing. The city+suburban thing is pretty good for what I use it for. 222 bus costs 5.00 return so it pays for itself in two weeks, add on the city routes and it's great. I can't imagine the City only passes creating such a saving.

Gauge

Kind of strange to think the city buses are now the same prices as the orbitals were when I first started going on the 19 every day!

parsi

Stark wrote: »

"We here at CIE would like to wish ourselves a Happy New Year".

10c, pretty big jump too. Normally the annual "Let's use inflation as an excuse to increase inflation" price hike is about 5c isn't it?

Don't forget that the fares have risen on Luas as well...

Tree

First i heard of it was my sister coming home yesterday telling me that her student fare was going up, didnt know what the adult fare was going to be. timetabling is beyond a joke, the number six that theoretically goes every ten mins you'd be lucky to catch within a half hour

Faith

Grr, buses really annoy me in Cork. Each bus shelter should have a clearly displayed timetable up, for each bus that stops there. Not only that, but they should have a list of the main stops and the approximate time that the bus will be there. It's all well and good saying the no.10 leaves Mahon Point at 10.25, but what time will it be at St. Finbarrs?

This is the timetable for my local bus in Edinburgh, and it's never more than a few minutes out. Bus Eireann are the only bus company I've EVER come across in ANY country that seem to hide their timetables.

RebelRockChick

I thought it was only City services but town/rural bus fares have risen in price aswell. I only found out about the price going up this morning, never saw any signs at the bus station or in the paper/on the radio at all. Midleton- Cork return was €7.10, now €7.50.

simu

Stark wrote: »

"We here at CIE would like to wish ourselves a Happy New Year".

10c, pretty big jump too. Normally the annual "Let's use inflation as an excuse to increase inflation" price hike is about 5c isn't it?

You're right. I was looking forward to paying €1.40 instead of €1.35 because that would have eliminated 5c coins from my pocket every day but no such luck!

I didn't see the price increase advertised anywhere although the bus driver let me off paying just €1.40 today.

John Gormley & friends - is this what happens to users of public transport while the Greens are in govt?! Is it Dan Boyle's revenge on the people of Cork?!

DaCorkGeezer

I heard about the price hike last Sunday in the news alright. In the 5 and 8 buses that had put up posters about the 10c increase

Yesterday on my way back to the City I give EUR 2 to the driver, the cheeky man only gives me back 50c!! I had to ask for my 5c like a beggar...As if he had forgottewn about it like :mad:

I always ask for the EXACT change back. I mean if it's the other way round and that you're 5c short, they probably wouldn't let you get away with it, so... :mad:

dulpit

I wouldn't mind the increase if their service was ok. However bus eireann is horrible. I have to get 2 buses into and out of college everyday (223 to town, 5 to college) and it's brutal. The big thing is buses that do not come at all. And then 2 (or more) arrive at same time...


And don't get me started on the bus drivers, arrogant tools...


Bus Eireann = fail. :mad:

Tree

the bus drove past us at the stop today, couldnt have been more than five ppl on the bus when it passed. grrrrrrrr

BanzaiBk

What stop was it and dig you flag it down?

Ekancone

I like these new Eastern European drivers though, they seem to be quite professional.

alancork

I have to get the train from Glounthaune every morning, and then the number 5 to college, sick of these increases now.

Hilariously ironic on Monday when I found out fares were going up, 7.45am train from Glounthaune- didn't turn up, replaced by a late bus which got stuck in traffic. 4.30pm train home- cancelled.. 5.30pm train- cancelled..

And then the cheek of staff in Kent to go on strike on Tuesday afternoon!

And to add to it, on Wednesday, waiting for 3pm train home from Kent, observed 9 Iarnrod Eireann staff standing around an Eircom broadband terminal in the station, watching videos on Youtube, I couldn't get over it! We're paying them for that sh*t! I have pictures of them..

As for buses not stopping.. happens all the time to me, especially if you're on your own at the bus stop..on the Mardyke, and the one between Gaol Cross and the ceremonial gates to UCC.:mad:

Double deckers or more buses badly needed on the 5 and 8 anyway, especially in the mornings and 4pm-6pm.

Rant over!

BanzaiBk

Do you flag down the bus?

deRanged

alancork wrote: »

I have to get the train from Glounthaune every morning, and then the number 5 to college, sick of these increases now.

would you not just walk to college? it's cheaper ...

Stark

Good point. It only takes about 15 mins to walk from the city centre to UCC, you'll easily spend that time waiting for the bus with the city's ****ty service. Even when I was doing it and taking the No. 8 all the way from college to my house, I'd often walk from college to the city centre as I had a better chance of getting the bus, or get off in the city centre and walk to college so I wouldn't have to lose time listening to the bus driver having a chat with his friends or going off for a wee.

Heisenberg.

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Stark

He said in his post that he waits for the bus outside UCC. And you would be surprised at how lazy people can be. I'm having an argument on another forum at the moment with people who are complaining about two pubs that are 1km apart and having to get a taxi between them No wonder traffic is mental.

BanzaiBk

lol there were times when I was in college when I walked from Douglas to UCC. Wouldn't it almost be quicker to walk out to the college anyway in the morning with all the traffic on Patrick's St?

Stark

I used to walk home a lot from UCC to Mayfield (uphill, but I did have shoes ) and it was generally quicker than getting the bus. Never did it in the morning though, it's hard enough getting up as it is without the thought of a best part of an hour's walk ahead of you

deRanged

BanzaiBk wrote: »

. Wouldn't it almost be quicker to walk out to the college anyway in the morning with all the traffic on Patrick's St?

absolutely - I've often walked past the same car at college road and patrick street on the way in of a morning.

Tree

the stop in grange near the pinecroft goin into town. there's always ppl to pick up at that stop and i wasnt th only one there. i didnt flag it down, but ive never had to do so before, there's only one bus route through grange, you're not gonna be waiting on anotehr one

dulpit

The Scientist wrote: »

Im pretty sure he means CIT.
Doubt anyone would be lazy enough to get a bus to UCC from the City.

You would be surprised... Lot of lazy folk who sit at back of the no.5 then take about 10 minutes to get off the bus at UCC... Stupid, you'd be way quicker walking in the morning..

juror

You can't complain about a measly 5/10c rise on the price of a fair. Have ye seen the price of petrol/diesel? The rest of us who drive cars/bikes have to buy this fuel which is continuing to increase in price and the buses don't run on fresh air. It’s only fair that the customer pays for the increase in fuel price ... that’s just life!
And the bus fair will continue to increase as long as the price of fuel does

Stark

Does that mean if the fuel price were to fall again, that the fares would also fall?

dulpit

Stark wrote: »

Does that mean if the fuel price were to fall again, that the fares would also fall?

Very true...


Also, I don't think people would be too pushed about the price increase if the service was any good. But it is appalling... I have used buses in Scotland, London, Switzerland, France and all these places can have buses that run to the minute, why not here?

juror

Stark wrote: »

Does that mean if the fuel price were to fall again, that the fares would also fall?

The chances of fuel prices falling by anything substantial is a very little. Currently oil is making roughly $100 a barrel and is predicted to double within two years.
Be honest here, do ye really expect to receive the same service at the same price when the cost of fuel to the service provider is continually increasing?

deRanged

juror wrote: »

Be honest here, do ye really expect to receive the same service

yes we do. I expect the train to run, bus users expect to be picked up by the bus at the stop.
I think this is what people are really saying - it's hard to pay more for less of a service. I know the first day I paid the new train fare the train was 15 minutes late.

The fuel issue is basically a separate one.

BanzaiBk

I was asking about the flagging down because of something a bus driver told me. He said that the drivers aren't obligated to stop at a bus stop with people standing there if no one flags the bus down if it's on a multi bus route. That would apply to the poster standing by Gaol's Cross, you flag the bus you want be it the no.5 or the no.8.

NotNumberTwo

Faith wrote: »

Grr, buses really annoy me in Cork. Each bus shelter should have a clearly displayed timetable up, for each bus that stops there. Not only that, but they should have a list of the main stops and the approximate time that the bus will be there. It's all well and good saying the no.10 leaves Mahon Point at 10.25, but what time will it be at St. Finbarrs?

This is the timetable for my local bus in Edinburgh, and it's never more than a few minutes out. Bus Eireann are the only bus company I've EVER come across in ANY country that seem to hide their timetables.

never mind timetable and shelters - I live on the n2 route and only seen 1 shelter between the centre and Mahon - but what I don't understand is that how on earth I am supposed to know which bus stops where? all I can see that it's a bus stop, thanks, but which bus it is, don't have a clue. I had to buy a map of Cork with the bus routes to get an idea. or is it only bus n2?

Tree

the number six is a single bus route all the way from frankfield to grange cross

Stark

juror wrote: »

The chances of fuel prices falling by anything substantial is a very little. Currently oil is making roughly $100 a barrel and is predicted to double within two years.
Be honest here, do ye really expect to receive the same service at the same price when the cost of fuel to the service provider is continually increasing?

Fuel prices rise and fall. They were at their current level around a year and a half ago, then fell by nearly 20c, yet we still got the annual fare increase. It's coming down to the boys in Government paying lip service to public transport and constantly reducing the subsidy more than anything. I suppose they need the money to pay our Kyoto fines...

alancork

I better clear up something.. it IS UCC, and I do walk, unless its raining.. I am not a lazy string of sh*t like, as many people who get off the train and onto the bus everyday are. I can't afford to be getting the bus everyday, its a luxury for bad days only! Still, the service is shocking..

And as for flagging buses down, yes, I do. Once outside Victoria Lodge, number 5 was coming, stuck out my hand... he didn't stop. The bus got stuck in traffic about 2 metres from me at the traffic lights on Victoria Cross, so I walked up to the door, asking the driver why he didn't stop, only to get the middle finger in return, and a closed door.. I know they are not allowed to stop and let me on if not at a bus stop, but he had for some reason, ignored me flagging him down.

I'm not lazy!

blow69

^^I bet he was on the lane furthest away from you wasn't he? They always do this at the Victoria Lodge stop cos that lane is just a small bit less busy
I live in Farranlea Hall where there is a bus stop right outside.A few times i was coming home Wilton direction at around 2p.m(so not too busy) I pressed the bell for Farranlea Hall.Driver never stopped.So i pressed it for Victoria Lodge.Didn't stop there eithir.So i got up and told him to stop.He said he'd stop at the next one(past the AIB which is bit of a walk)When he stopped my friend and I confronted him.He made excuses and told us to **** off.I just said 'just cos you have a thankless job doesn't mean you shouldn't do it properly'

DaCorkGeezer

next time it happens, try and get the bus' reg plate number, the line, the time and place, and lodge a complaint with the NCA. Thing is, it's pointless to give out and do nothing about it. They shouldn't get away with it :mad:

alancork

blow69 wrote: »

^^I bet he was on the lane furthest away from you wasn't he? They always do this at the Victoria Lodge stop cos that lane is just a small bit less busy'

Ya, exactly, it was as if he decided it would be too much hassle to change lanes, considering I was the only person there. But it pi*sed me off he wouldn't let me on when he was stuck in traffic a small bit down, especially when he had seen me.

I know I should complain, I know! But then again, you don't want to sound like a whinger do ya:rolleyes: ( which is exactly what I'm doing here..ah you have to have some outlet!:D)

BanzaiBk

^So you're willing to accept crap service 'cos you don't want to sound like a whinger?:rolleyes:

I've "complained " 3 times with a handwritten letter, could care less if someone in Bus Eireann thinks I'm a whinger.

alancork

No, I'm actually like a serial complainer, its ridiculous.. i wrote a big long letter recently about Commuter tickets and prices and so on, got no reply for 2 weeks, so started sending the letter everyday, until eventually, someone from Bus Eireann responded.. absolutely no satisfaction whatsoever..

So just got kind of sick of it..

Might aswell be happy and just complain about it here instead!!:D

shnaek

Yay! Oil prices are down about 10% on what they were a few weeks ago when they hit $100 a barrel. They are now at $90 a barrel - so when can we expect the 10% decrease in fares, if they are so oil sensitive?

madgal

Jeez lads.... the memories your bring back to me of the AWFUL cork buses.
I'm now living in Belfast, and thankfully they run a service.

I'm scarred for life by the ballincollig bus. I *each morning* stood patiently outside UCC waiting for that bus to bring me to ballincollig. Each morning it arrived at a different time, and the man on it swore at any darned car that drove 2 slowly in front, or any person that dare press for the traffic lights. I also got charged a different fare every morning, and got asked where I was going - School uniform? Duh duh??

Since moving to Belfast however, I can rely on a bus to be there every 2 minutes. No longer do I have to put my life on the line to run across a busy road to get to the bus!! We also have pink buses up here! Double Deckers in fact!! Charge of a £1 for where your going (not any awkward coppers) and this card system where you pay for 10/20/50 bus rides in advance and swipe your card when you get on the bus. A real pleasure!#


I agree with you though, Bus Eireann are meanies!!!

blow69

Oh don't even try and complain to Bus Eireann.You will get no response! They like to stay behind closed doors.I swear to God this country.....................

stev2604

I wouldn't mind if we were actually getting a good service, but it's pretty horrible to be honest. Already €2.70 to town on the magical 222!