ComputeTy

Mad_Max

Does anyone else in CA find it annoying that 5 of our labs are booked up till 3.30 each day for computeTy during the exam period.

L125 and L114 for all 4 years?? :mad:

Will

its the way it usually goes, hit up the library to study if you want to, probably quieter than the labs anyway

BlackWizard

Heh, and I was thinking about going into college to study...

Library aint a bad idea. Sometimes hard to get a seat at a PC.

Is it busy in the library Will?

dregin

The library's usually full unless ya get in there early. The way the CA building has been given away to engineering groups and now this bull**** is a ****in disgrave. No wonder the degree's going to the dogs.

tnkrbell

If you want to use computers in the library or use your laptop there I find that you have to be in there pretty early if you want a seat for the day.There always empty classrooms in any of the buildings.

Will

darragh: eh dunno havent gone in, too far for me to travel just to try study

Mad_Max

I was trying to use the labs for the pc's. But still even at that, why the hell should CA students have to hit the library when we (should) have hundreds of pcs open to us.

Given that they already took L128 off us and cleared out pc's from the other 2 bottom labs we're limited enough as it is without increasing the amount of hits bebo gets by giving kids a month off school to use it.

My studying has thought me one thing though DCU = money whoers

LegacyUser

what time the library open till on sun(13th)??

tnkrbell

robdcu wrote: »

what time the library open till on sun(13th)??

http://www.library.dcu.ie/about/openhours.htm

StickyMcGinty

Mad_Max wrote: »

I was trying to use the labs for the pc's. But still even at that, why the hell should CA students have to hit the library when we (should) have hundreds of pcs open to us.

i try to hit the library as much as possible anyway, the noise in L125 is disgraceful

some joker even started to play music out loud in 125 yesterday ffs

:|

I go to the library after 2, plenty of free places available then and more sleep for me

c0rk3r

Nah dont come to the library. No one here wants anymore CA students.

Was strolling around the library looking for a computer to use. Needed to check out an exam question, you know something that actually related to me being in the library in the first place. When i spotted three pseudo geek/knacker CA students circle jerking themselves of whilst playing counter-strike. I mean wtf? How inconsiderate, ignorant fvckhead do you have to be? especially when theres only 5 days or so until the start of the exams. It was pure attention whoring.

So i go back to my seat unable to get a computer. Nothing unusual there, ill try again in 10minutes. As i was sitting down, fuming at these muppets. I say to myself well at least its not as pathetic as bebo surfing. So 10 minutes later i try again. Walk past the three guys and there browsing through bebo...

Mad_Max

In their defence they cant do it where they normally would because half of ballymun have taken their place.... blame DCU

Will

c0rk3r: you shoulda reported em to the librarian, smacked a fine on their asses.

im a CA student myself, we arent some sort of weird breed (for the most part). Granted you get the nerds who'd prefer to stay in at weekends and play with some server etc. but most of us are pretty normal. cant tar us all with the one brush

sunnyjim

Yeah, the reason the DCU let TY students use the labs is cause DCU doesn't give a **** about it's own students.

In the world of DCU, Public Relations >> Welfare of Actual DCU Students.

StickyMcGinty

does anyone know if they actually charge schools for use of the labs? for all we know they could be doing it gratis as part of the access program.

anyway instead of complaining about DCU's policys, how about CA students start watching their own behaviour. L125 was like a zoo again yesterday, couldnt do a tap of work in the place. theres a perfectly good playground over in Albert College park if you 3rd years feel the need to act the boll*x, dont do it in L125.

stringy

http://www.computing.dcu.ie/computety/

they don't just let schools in for free! it's a programme designed to entice young people into careers into Computing.

Some people are unbelievable, always thinking that no one cares, and whoa is me. "The system" is always out get students of course

I'm going to put this all down to exam stress

on a serious note, they were acting the boll!x big time today and there's no excuses for that

Mad_Max

I know this is going off topic on the original thread but i have to agree that the mess in L125 is at a ridiculous stage.

And i am gonna pin this on the third years!! and i can pin it individually too.

As far as i can tell the only way to quieten them down is a block on certain sites in that lab (bebo, youtube, game sites etc). Then lets hear them shout and laugh about Java or whatever they SHOULD be working on.

As it is the main project lab and the final year project kicks into gear, that level of messing just cant be let go.

sunnyjim

Some people are unbelievable, always thinking that no one cares, and whoa is me. "The system" is always out get students of course

Thats probably directed at me, but to be fair, there are plenty of examples out there of how DCU doesn't give a ****e once they get students applying and surviving for a few years.

Alanthroneus

c0rk3r wrote: »

When i spotted three pseudo geek/knacker CA students circle jerking themselves of whilst playing counter-strike. I mean wtf?

Yeah i was near those chappies. the worst part was the * click click click click click click click click click click snigger snigger click click click click click click click click click click.

Also the wireless wasn't working on the middle floor for most of the week. and when you have notes upon notes that are just chemical structures ( oh micheal hoe i hate you so ) and no words at all you get stressed to the max without the internet there. the when you go to find a computer they are all full and the dickwads up there playen Counter Strike ... AHHHH!

TouchingVirus

Alanthroneus wrote: »

Yeah i was near those chappies. the worst part was the * click click click click click click click click click click snigger snigger click click click click click click click click click click.

Also the wireless wasn't working on the middle floor for most of the week. and when you have notes upon notes that are just chemical structures ( oh micheal hoe i hate you so ) and no words at all you get stressed to the max without the internet there. the when you go to find a computer they are all full and the dickwads up there playen Counter Strike ... AHHHH!

Can't you report them? If somebody was on bebo in the library in NUIM I'd ask them to leave because I had real work to do. If I was told where to go then I'd ask for them to be removed by library staff.

Students playing games is another thing. If they're quiet about it then I'll care not but this stuff you're talking about (loud music, acting like it's a farm) is surely against etiquette and some rules - so just report them. In the end it is your degree, and you're paying for it too so speak up and get the facilities you need

Alanthroneus

TouchingVirus wrote: »

Can't you report them? If somebody was on bebo in the library in NUIM I'd ask them to leave because I had real work to do. If I was told where to go then I'd ask for them to be removed by library staff.

Students playing games is another thing. If they're quiet about it then I'll care not but this stuff you're talking about (loud music, acting like it's a farm) is surely against etiquette and some rules - so just report them. In the end it is your degree, and you're paying for it too so speak up and get the facilities you need

I should have but at the time i was a bit to stressed to think of that ....it was one of those days.

TouchingVirus

Alanthroneus wrote: »

I should have but at the time i was a bit to stressed to think of that ....it was one of those days.

Yeah, totally understand. Just wanted to point out that you can do things about it other than rant on the boards (not that I mind the posts, I'm intruiged you guys have similar problems to NUIM only on a bigger scale). Make sure next time you're not so stressed to tell them to cop themselves on, they can flush their own degrees down the shi*ter but not yours. Tis best when there's a few of ye in the lab too, incase they truly are knackbags and get some ideas

dregin

I have to say, librocop does do a decent job whenever I'm there. I've seen here clear a good few out in the space of a couple of hours. There only seems to be one person walking around keeping an eye on things, though. I reckon we need some sort of button on our desks to alert her to infractions :P

Sebzy

Ok dont forget that that you guys have access to ~60 computers up on the top floor of the grattan C204(Somebookings) C206(No Bookings) and C214(No bookings)

cognos

The computeTY thing going on in the exam study period is typical of DCU's attitude towards the students.

StickyMcGinty wrote: »

L125 was like a zoo again yesterday, couldnt do a tap of work in the place. theres a perfectly good playground over in Albert College park if you 3rd years feel the need to act the boll*x, dont do it in L125.

in my experience the 4th years cause the majority of trouble in that lab. I have had to leave the lab because of noise etc. a few times and it has never been because of 3rd years. It's not a problem though - I've never had difficulty finding somewhere else to work. I don't know why the 4th years always kick up such a fuss about the noise in there.

Will

Howie D came into the lab (L125) on thursday telling people that its awork lab, most people were trying to finish the functional spec but there was a group of people playing a networked game of bomberman, and i know for a fact they werent 4th years.

It is by far the noisiest lab, i rarely get any work done in there.

StickyMcGinty

Wilburt wrote: »

Howie D came into the lab (L125) on thursday telling people that its awork lab, most people were trying to finish the functional spec but there was a group of people playing a networked game of bomberman, and i know for a fact they werent 4th years.

It is by far the noisiest lab, i rarely get any work done in there.

seems my "chat" with howie on thursday had a bit of an effect.

GavMan

cognos wrote: »

in my experience the 4th years cause the majority of trouble in that lab. I have had to leave the lab because of noise etc. a few times and it has never been because of 3rd years. It's not a problem though - I've never had difficulty finding somewhere else to work. I don't know why the 4th years always kick up such a fuss about the noise in there.

Are you trying to pull the piss, mate???
The 3rd years are the biggest gang of ****e hawks I've ever known. I thought we were bad in 3rd year, but these boys take the cake.

Mad_Max

cognos wrote: »

in my experience the 4th years cause the majority of trouble in that lab. I have had to leave the lab because of noise etc. a few times and it has never been because of 3rd years. It's not a problem though - I've never had difficulty finding somewhere else to work. I don't know why the 4th years always kick up such a fuss about the noise in there.

Assuming you are a third year, and that you are in L125 all the time (otherwise you wouldn't know), have a look and listen to the row of 3rd years in the middle row, right hand side (they are that regular!).

And while your at it listen out for at least one pissed off 4th year, who from now on will point it out.

Will

haha Gav, shooting from the hip as usual

Jewelsster

The Compute TY course is non-profit generating - it's an outreach programme to schools in the surrounding area to introduce them to HTML. Many of the students are from disadvantaged schools.

The fees for the students are to cover the cost of the tutors and any admin costs e.g. the certificates.

dregin

How about they have some sort of brainstorming session and DONT decide to have it in the middle of the exams??

LeixlipRed

Tis a ****ing joke having it on during the exams alright. The library is too noisy and I get nothing done in my apartment. Go into the labs in the evening and they do be quite quiet but I want that luxury all the time. Stupid disadvataged kids, get a job

Mad_Max

the LIBRARY is noisy????? HAHAHAHA check out L125 anytime up till 6.

Jewelsster

They can't have it any time else if you think about it because then there are classes.

It's in its fourth year now and last year most of the computing labs were left empty even during exams so it appeared that L1.14 would be able to accommodate students who wished to use a computer. It still appears that way.

There is also half of L2.01 free if you wish to use that, it's quite quiet too.

I don't tend to go into L1.25 but that sounds like a matter of self-respect. Every 3rd and 4th year knows that it's supposed to be a quiet lab so there's no reason why they shouldn't treat it as such.

If it's run again next year I would consider getting less students in but it's a shame as it's also there to promote computing and have it seen as less of a "nerdy" pursuit but instead something that people might develop an interest in.

gizmo

In fairness dregin, you're 6' holyjesus" so go over and tell the people that are being overly noisy to stfu. As for the rest of you, if the lab is being unbearably loud then pop down to the Helpdesk downstairs and tell them about it. If they're willing to fine people for eating in there then they'll sure as hell get them for doing some of the things mentioned above.

dregin

LG26 and 27 are the usually the only 2 labs I'd consider quiet in the whole building, tbh.

dregin

I shouldn't have to make myself a target by mammying these people. Where's the guy that used to wander around fining people for food and gaming in the labs? If they need more of them, then so be it. They're already making enough money of us while slowly taking most of our labs away. Repeat offenders should be kicked out of the college.

Mad_Max

I shouldn't have to make myself a target by mammying these people

This is really true, I've had to go over to groups on quiet a few occasions when it is just unbearable and i've been greeted with some f off's. Its a tough situation, we can't really expect the lecturers to be policemen either.

The helpdesk fining gamers sounds like the solution IMO.

ghostdancer

Jewelsster wrote: »

They can't have it any time else if you think about it because then there are classes.

It's in its fourth year now and last year most of the computing labs were left empty even during exams so it appeared that L1.14 would be able to accommodate students who wished to use a computer. It still appears that way.

There is also half of L2.01 free if you wish to use that, it's quite quiet too.

I don't tend to go into L1.25 but that sounds like a matter of self-respect. Every 3rd and 4th year knows that it's supposed to be a quiet lab so there's no reason why they shouldn't treat it as such.

If it's run again next year I would consider getting less students in but it's a shame as it's also there to promote computing and have it seen as less of a "nerdy" pursuit but instead something that people might develop an interest in.

how can't they have them any other time? the labs are rarely used for classes, and are free most of the time during the week, i don't think any of them are in use on Fridays, bring in those students then.
bring them in saturdays.
bring them in sundays.
bring them in in the week before semester 2 when there's no students around.
bring them in in the 3 weeks of September before semester 1 when no students are around.
bring them in in the last week of May when the exams are over.
in short, there's plenty of time to be bringing them in when they aren't disrupting 1 of the 2 most important times of the year for students.


the labs haven't been disused during exams for any of the past 4 years. they've gotten busier in fact, as the number of labs available to undergrads dwindles. l208 and l126 have been turned into postgrad labs, and one of the labs on the ground floor has been stripped of all it's PCs and is now just an empty room.
when 1st years have their labs during the semester, all 3rd and 4th years are confined to l125, which is complete and utter bullsh!t. it's almost impossible to do any work most of the time in there, nevermind when 2 whole years are moved there.
maybe putting a little play-pen and a ball-pool in that empty room downstairs would be a good idea. that way the usual group of 3rd years who go around screeching and making noise in l125, could play away to their hearts content.
i've been going into that room for the last 3 years, and a certain section of the current 3rd years are easily the most immature little twits i've ever seen.

l201, while there's some PCs in there, it's hardly free to do any work in. i had to get something from the printer in there today and the noise from the students from "disadvantaged schools" is painful. aren't they supposed to have some supervision too? they seem to just go up and down the stairs shouting at each other all day long whenever they feel like it.
similarly, where was the supervision when there was a good 50+ of the students singing and shouting outside the CA building yesterday afternoon. luckily a lecturer was passing by and told them to keep quiet, which was brave enough considering most of these students seem like the type to tell people to p!ss off rather than show any kind of common courtesy or respect.

your last comment is really of sweet f-ck all use to the current students who are trying to revise for exams, and have to put up with this crap, and in all honesty, just highlight's DCU's ongoing pursuit for recognition and profit, at a cost to the students who line their pockets all year round.

"treat students like sh!t, get rich doing it", it'd be a great motto for the university.

Jewelsster

As has been said before - it's not a profit-generating exercise so it's not a "get rich" scheme at all.

We have considered bringing in the students at other times but unfortunately can only do it when the schools are in so Saturday and Sundays are not an option as we need teachers here to supervise. The other dates there isn't anyone available to run the course.

There hasn't been any issues in previous years and as I said, if it's to run again next year the number of students will decrease freeing up an additional lab.

The labs might not have been disused last year but there was normally only 2/3 students in any of the free labs whenever I walked about to check on numbers.

We have never had trouble with Compute TY students in previous years but this year one school in particular has been showing anti-social behaviour as you cited so I have told the supervising teacher that if there is any further show of such behaviour we will either be sending home the main trouble makers or the whole school. The school that's displaying the behaviour is not actually one of the disadvantaged schools and it is the first time we have had such trouble. It shall hopefully not be repeated.

Landa2

OK,

I was in separate meetings with both Stephen Blott and the person running this programme, and ive been told that if the labs available to students hit capacity that another lab will be freed up for students... but only if its needed,

Now for the last few days ive been keeping an eye on this situation, the labs have never been filled, alone between the two labs we have access to there are 99 computers, the most students ive seen between the two labs is 70. This does not give students in the school a reason to complain about the "lack of computers available to students in the building" or the ComputeTy course being run in the building.... If the labs were full, I would happily fight for more labs and the school have agreed that additional labs would be freed up if this was the case, but this is not the case and we do not require an additional lab.

This year there is one less undergrad lab in the building this came about because of the usage drop in the labs over the last few years, last year the college staff walked around the labs at some unreal time during the week like 9.30 on a Friday. they accounted our lab usage and adjusted our labs accordingly. As a result the 2 taught masters labs in LG27 and LG28 were lost to the school of mechanical engineering, and in turn we the undergrads lost L128. As for L208 that was lost before I entered the college which was 2 and a half years ago.

Onto the other "off topic" arguments in this forum ("L125"),

I see a lot of current forth years arguing about the noise in the lab this year because of the third years, i agree it is a very noisy environment and i have approached "the group" and informed them about the complaints against them by both the staff and students of the school. BUT I seem to remember a similarly noisy group of people in the lab last year that are now included in the group of students complaining about all the noise... you cant have life both ways, if you were model students in the lab last year then ok you have every right to complain, but I don't believe there are many who fall into this category....

GavMan wrote:

Are you trying to pull the piss, mate???
The 3rd years are the biggest gang of ****e hawks I've ever known. I thought we were bad in 3rd year, but these boys take the cake.

Your right you were bad last year, just as bad actually, but i suppose its hard to realise this when your the one people are complaining about.


The use of sites such as youtube, bebo, and other social networking sites in the lab, but you cant ban one site without banning all of them, through every interface, these include forums such as these, blogs, and also not to mention, all access to the redbrick service.

Now don’t get me wrong I agree that the project lab is a disgrace, its far too noisy there is a lot of stuff going on in there that isn’t college related, but this should be addressed in the lab not here. If there is a genuine disturbance in the lab then you are well within your right to approach the disturbance and calmly ask for the noise level to be lowered, if it is not lowered then report the disturbance to the nearest member of staff and they will lay down the proverbial law. As for the content again it is a problem, but unless it takes up the last computer in the lab, the complaint is void. if you do on some rare occasion walk into L125 and the lab is full and there are people using bebo or are on redbrick, and don’t seem to be doing any real amount of work, you are entitle to first ask them if they are in fact doing any work, and if not could they kindly let you in to do yours...

As far as i can see im the only one to have done either of these in the lab, and i am neither a 3rd nor 4th year, but have done it on request of both....

I'm sitting in L125 at the moment and it's reasonably quiet. Most of the computers are taken by third and fourth years; there are only a few second years, who are, for the most part, occupying L114. But when the particular group of third years (who I personally know) are in here playing SNES ROMs, the noise level goes up considerably, making it pretty difficult to study.

Usually, second years can't log into the computers in L125 and first and second years were able to use L114 only when we all started coming in to DCU for study. It was only after berating the school that were we allowed to log in using Windows. Practically, this doesn't bother me as I like using Linux, but it's pathetic that we actually had to go and complain to the school so we, the students were allowed to use computers in our school because a bunch of noisy kids commandeered all but one of our labs (excluding 125). Last year we also had L128, which was open to all CA students, but since then it has been transformed into a postgrad lab which is off-limits to undergraduates.

Now, maybe I'm wrong, but the last time I checked, having free labs during examinations is a little important, wouldn't you agree? We have a lot of time off while secondary schools are still in. For example, our exams end on the 25th and semester two starts on the 4th of February. If this isn't enough time for them to do Compute TY, they can do it during the summer when we're off for a month longer than secondary schools. My point is, why should we have to give up our labs at the point when we need them the most when they just lie idle during months such as September? Transition year students usually have no exams worth mentioning - in fact, they do little work at all, so why are we forced to compromise our exams just to make it convenient for them?

From what I've seen, these Compute TY students spend a lot of their time on bebo, myspace and Youtube as well. What an effective use of our bandwidth! I know DCU students do this as well, but let's face it, we're paying for the privilege, and we don't sap resources by doing it constantly in the middle of exams. A CA student usually pays about €800 per year, repeat students far more. If someone's going to spend all their time on these websites in CA labs, they might as well be CA students.

In my almost three years in DCU I've seen a lot of dodgy behaviour and rules from the powers that be which would suggest to me that public relations and/or money are slightly more important than keeping students happy and allowing them to reach their fullest potential. As much as I like the university and this course, this particular incident doesn't inspire any confidence, for me, in DCU.

tnkrbell

Deleted User wrote: »

From what I've seen, these Compute TY students spend a lot of their time on bebo, myspace and Youtube as well.

The reason why they spend time on these sights during Compute TY is cause the aim of them building their websites is based on something of interest to them. So for some of the student bebo and youtube is essential to their webpages cause they were told to out pictures in and some of them also have videos on them (i've seen some of the webpages cause my younger sister was one of them and they're pretty good)

You can shoot me down in what I'm going to say next but I think the Compute TY is a great idea maybe not as long as 4 weeks and not during exam/study time.But it does give students the opportunity to see whether or not computers is for them.Also I wish I had the opportunity to do something like that our computer course in TY comprised of making posters in word and making spreadsheets!

dregin

NURSES OUT!

Anyway. 4th years should have their own lab. End of story.

Hauk

dregin wrote: »

NURSES OUT!

Anyway. 4th years should have their own lab. End of story.

Can I visit? Your nothing without me ¬_¬

Will

To be honest, I dont think focussing on developing websites for a week gives the TY students a good idea about what the course is about. its only 1 module in 2nd semester of first year (when i was in first year it was anyway, may have changed) out of a total of 4 years.

Mad_Max

Landa2 wrote: »

Now for the last few days ive been keeping an eye on this situation, the labs have never been filled,

Try looking in now during the exams when everyone is in revising last minute.

But anyway in regard to the actual programme I agree its a good idea IN PRINCIPLE but i think that it's being abused. How does young kids running round putting other kids heads under water taps, emptying out our first aid kit, standing outside the shops in gangs shouting and pushing each other and at times other people, running through labs chasing each other, help them understand computers.

tnkrbell wrote: »

The reason why they spend time on these sights during Compute TY is cause the aim of them building their websites is based on something of interest to them.

Unless the plan on making a bebo/youtube equivalent I dont see how looking at these help them make sites about things that interest them. I'll stand corrected if any of them do make an equivalent :P

Jewelsster wrote: »

As has been said before - it's not a profit-generating exercise so it's not a "get rich" scheme at all.

No this one is an example of DCU's love of good media coverage. Doesn't it look well that the big university is looking after the disadvantaged students. Im not against that at all, so long as they look after their bread and butter first. But then again we've paid our money so what do they care.

dregin wrote: »

NURSES OUT!

Thats just a plain silly thing to say :D

tnkrbell

tnkrbell wrote: »

The reason why they spend time on these sights during Compute TY is cause the aim of them building their websites is based on something of interest to them. So for some of the student bebo and youtube is essential to their webpages cause they were told to out pictures in and some of them also have videos on them (i've seen some of the webpages cause my younger sister was one of them and they're pretty good)

You can shoot me down in what I'm going to say next but I think the Compute TY is a great idea maybe not as long as 4 weeks and not during exam/study time.But it does give students the opportunity to see whether or not computers is for them.Also I wish I had the opportunity to do something like that our computer course in TY comprised of making posters in word and making spreadsheets!

I have a solution. Instead of letting "disadvantaged" kids take over our labs during exam time, how about DCU teaches these schools how to hold real computing classes as opposed to the crap that secondary school students currently have? There's an even easier way to teach kids how to make web pages that doesn't involve us paying students getting screwed over: http://www.w3schools.com/html/ Ask around CA; I bet I wasn't the only secondary school student who was clever enough to type "HTML tutorial" into a search engine. If they're really interested in using the Internet for more than Bebo and Myspace, they can do it too.

Compute TY is a great idea in theory if you're looking for positive PR and don't mind if your own students struggle to find quiet places to study. CA students shouldn't have to go to the library or Henry Grattan building to study - we have our own labs for a reason.

DCU could very easily have Compute TY on during a time when we aren't in college. Nobody being available to run the course is not an excuse. If DCU employees don't feel like getting paid to do it during times such as September, why not pay CA students to run it? I'm sure some in CA would be brave enough to deal with those transition years.

StickyMcGinty

Landa2 wrote: »

Onto the other "off topic" arguments in this forum ("L125"),

oh its very much on topic for us final year CA students.

Landa2 wrote: »

Now for the last few days ive been keeping an eye on this situation, the labs have never been filled, alone between the two labs we have access to there are 99 computers, the most students ive seen between the two labs is 70. This does not give students in the school a reason to complain about the "lack of computers available to students in the building" or the ComputeTy course being run in the building.... If the labs were full, I would happily fight for more labs and the school have agreed that additional labs would be freed up if this was the case, but this is not the case and we do not require an additional lab.

if the labs are empty around this time its because studying in them has become counter productive for the reasons mentioned throughout the thread.

its seems to be that the less regulated that the labs are, the less students will be able to use them, and the more DCU will take these labs from CA undergrads....

Landa2 wrote: »

BUT I seem to remember a similarly noisy group of people in the lab last year that are now included in the group of students complaining about all the noise... you cant have life both ways, if you were model students in the lab last year then ok you have every right to complain, but I don't believe there are many who fall into this category....

well your wrong. dont even try and pull the "yous were the same last year" argument. the VAST majority of last years third year students, and presumably this years also, are well behaved in the labs. The recent furore is because of an isolated few and doesn't represent the CA3 year as a whole. Maybe if the DCU staff had enforced the de facto lab rules last year with those students you mentioned the problem wouldn't have arisen again this year?

Landa2 wrote: »

I was in separate meetings with both Stephen Blott and the person running this programme, and ive been told that if the labs available to students hit capacity that another lab will be freed up for students... but only if its needed

a full lab? the current situation is that if a lab is even half full its impossible to do any work.

I've chatted to Stephen Blott (Head of School), Howard Duncan (Teaching Co-Ordinator), and i know Lynn Killen (4th year co-ordinator) has been emailed with complaints about the 125 situation. These are all Senior SOC staff members yet they've all failed to take any preventative measures. (in fairness to Howard Duncan he did pop in and reprimand some students on one occasion). Who are we supposed to go to next?

dregin wrote:

Anyway. 4th years should have their own lab. End of story.

definitely. I emailed Padraig O'Connor (Engineering & Computing Convenor) about this back in November and tried to follow it up there today... still awaiting a reply....


as someone else mentioned earlier it shouldn't be the responsibility of students to enforce these rules in 125, but i had to tell two different groups to quieten it down in 125 today. in fairness to the 3rd years, when i said it to them they apologized and kept the noise levels down afterwards.