martial arts questions

timetogetfit

I may be a little misguided so maybe you can educated me whether the following is true?

BJJ and Muay Thai are the best for real life self defence

Shotokan karate is crap

why is shotokan karate the most common form of martial art in ireland how does it compare to taekwondo?

Whats the difference between jujitsu and aikido?

I heard aikido is very hard to learn ,is it?

easyontheeye

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Baggio...

easyontheeye wrote: »

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Hah...... brilliant. Think I'll join you.:)

joepenguin

timetogetfit wrote: »

I may be a little misguided so maybe you can educated me whether the following is true?

BJJ and Muay Thai are the best for real life self defence

Shotokan karate is crap

why is shotokan karate the most common form of martial art in ireland how does it compare to taekwondo?

Whats the difference between jujitsu and aikido?

I heard aikido is very hard to learn ,is it?

*realises there is no popcorn at hand so gets the ball rolling*

timetogetfit the best thing to do is find clubs in your area and see which ones you think are good and of those which style you think suits you best.


all of the arts listed would be good for self defence if the instructor is self defence minded.

it would take too long to go through the pro's and cons of each but a quick search on each would tell you a lot right away.

i dont know if shotokan is THE most popular, it is very popular in this country though, its on the go a long time, if you find a club that practises good kata application and does decent sparring then id consider that a good club as long as it spent time on basics etc as well.

how does it compare to taekwondo? i havent practiced either, but tkd has more kicks/higher kicks, pretty similar in many other ways though.

the difference between jujitsu and aikido:
aikido came from jj, so there are many similarities.
aikido uses opponents aggression to their advantage, blends with the attack and pins/throws opponent or ending in a joint lock.
ju jutsu is a bit like kung fu: many variations so if you have a style in mind please post it, in general though there is a bit more striking in it, and is a bit more combat orientated

aikido isnt that hard to learn, at first there is a lot of footwork/steps etc to learn but all the movements are natural so after the inital "your foot goes here, no not there... here" bit, you pick things up fairly handy.

hope this helps

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Nothingcompares

Lyoto Machida has been training in Shotokan since he was 3/4 years old apparently.

BJJ and Muay Thai are the best for real life self defence

I agree a combination of BJJ and Muay Thai would be two of the best martial arts to combine to make you a complete fighter and therefore better at self-defence. Like almost everyone in the UFC I'd add some solid clinch/wrestling training to those. however, many people would argue that boxing and wrestling or judo would be more beneficial as there would be more emphasis on staying on your feet and not risk kicking or grappling on the ground. It's a pointless argument as the best people in martial arts train in all 3 ranges, Striking, Clinch/wRestling and ground/grappling. GSP for example trains in wrestling, boxing, muay thai and BJJ as well as having a Kyukushin karate background.

Shotokan karate is crap

Well if we continue to equate "self defence" with the ability to fight well (some people like Boru for example would not be satisfied with this equation) Shotokan would not be considered by many in the mixed martial art world as useful for self-defence. The training methods are not built around full contact continuous sparring in the vast majority of cases, this training method has been proven by all combat sports to be the most effective. Also the grading system isn't based on performance in fighting but on other things therefore a long practising Shotokan Karateka could reach a high grade and therefore start teaching without having a good ability to fight, therefore this waters down the usefulness of the training.

why is shotokan karate the most common form of martial art in ireland how does it compare to taekwondo?

Is this true? Where did you hear this? Can you prove Shotokan is the most common form? Shotokan Karate and TKD are superficially very similar, they share a similar training method. TKD clubs differ in curriculum, style and training method to even a greater degree than Shotokan so it's almost impossible to compare them. In terms of popularity...who knows.

Whats the difference between jujitsu and aikido?

Jujitsu is a very ambiguous term. Some people consider Japanese Jujitsu or modern jujitsu to be an amalgamation of aikido, karate and judo. Some people consider classical jujitsu to be a martial art that has it's origins in medival japan with an emphasis on preserving the stylised method of fighting from this era with little interest in the modern application. Some people would disagree with everything I've said about jujitsu and will have their own view. Therefore it's very difficult to compare and contrast it with aikido because it's a vague term to refer to japanese martial arts involving punches, kicks and grappling.

I heard aikido is very hard to learn ,is it?

The training methods don't often lend itself easy to pick up quickly. You might learn the fundamentals of boxing after 6 months but would you be considered an expert? To become an expert at boxing you'd have to spend a lot of time training and sparring many times a week for many years. That sounds hard to me too.

Your questions are very vague and demonstrate a lack of understand about martial arts perhaps you should read/learn/observe/practice more.

Khannie

timetogetfit wrote: »

BJJ and Muay Thai are the best for real life self defence

For what it's worth, there is zero emphasis on using your training outside the ring in MT (at least where I train). It's all about winning in the ring.

Having said all that.....There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that I could kick the living crap out of the "pre-muay thai khannie" in a row on the street (edit: I should add that I think physical conditioning would be a large factor here. Your average punter will be fairly puffed out after 30 seconds going full throttle at which point someone conditioned for more or less any ring based combat sport would go to town), but if it's purely for self defence, something like combatives may be worth considering too.

Also, I read an article that said that most MT fighters who end up in a row on the street tend to use their hands more, with elbows and knees as the other two weapons (in declining order). Kicks were apparantly rarely used (presumably for fear of ending up on your arse with many kicks to the head to follow). With that in mind, pure boxing might be more useful for self-defence purposes. I do like the knee / elbow aspect of MT for the close range heavy damage though.

I'd like to hear from other MT practitioners on here who've been in a row on the street after they'd reached the skill level of getting in the ring how they found the MT helped them and how they used it.

easyontheeye wrote: »

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Yeah...pretty inflamatory stuff there OP.

TKD SC

timetogetfit wrote: »

I may be a little misguided so maybe you can educated me whether the following is true?

BJJ and Muay Thai are the best for real life self defence

Shotokan karate is crap

why is shotokan karate the most common form of martial art in ireland how does it compare to taekwondo?

Whats the difference between jujitsu and aikido?

I heard aikido is very hard to learn ,is it?

Hello,

Since you've mentioned a lot of MA's above, I'm guessing you're thinking of taking up a MA? Is this right? Or do you just want to learn the differences between them?

If you want to take one up, then I suggest you let us know the area you live in. Tbh, you've a better chance of making the classes if they are handy for you to get to etc., esp if just starting, so maybe post up a few areas that are handy for you, and I'm sure people will post up various clubs in your area.

You're then much better just visiting as many clubs as you can, and seeing which one clicks with you / which you enjoy the most. After you do that, you then might have more specific style q's that you can post on here at that stage.

Simon

smartypants

simply put

TKD/Karate/aikido/kempo/ even kick boxing (oooh controverisal but i said it!) = load of cock

(boxing/muay thai/ jits) aka MMA = real fighting ability

Colm_OReilly

You know what, I'm just going to close this one now.

OP, if you want to take up a martial art, start a new thread asking for recommendations in your area.