building my very first pc :)

vince-sebastian

hiya everyone... im a real newbie to this, but id ike to try build my pc instead of ordering a standard model, but ive got a couple concerns im hoping someone here will be able to put my mind at ease with

ive got a list of components i recon will make an awesome gaming pc....
what im worried about is will all these components be compatable with one another and are they a decent set up... are there better parts cheaper than the ones ive chosen?

im pretty confident i can put it all together but will they come with the cables, like the power cord and the ribon cable to connect the dvd drive etc....

and lastly, with the sftware busisness... im probably gonna use vista, is there any issues with the drivers... like are the graphics card drivers included in the package? and wil they run ok on vista or is xp a much safer bet... i know vista has a bad rep atm but im figuring that all the updates and new games geared towards vista... am i wrong? :S

thanks so much for the help im sorry is some of these questiones seem really dumb

here are the components im looking to order from dabs.ie (its a good place to get them right?)

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HP Combo Drive CD-RW & DVD-ROM
quicklinx:4DBDWS | Mfr#L976B In stock now €55.61 €55.61



Samsung 500GB S300 16MB 7200RPM
quicklinx:4C0KWS | Mfr#:HD501LJ In stock now €88.72 €88.72



Dabs Value All in One Internal Card Reader USB2 Black
quicklinx:4M5YWS | Mfr#:CR005 In stock now €12.46 €12.46



Dabs Value GeForce 8800GT 512MB DDR3 PCIE DUAL DVI 600/1800
quicklinx:4S89WS | Mfr#:8800GT-H5GTCDS In stock now €230.35 €230.35



Kingston 4GB Kit
quicklinx:3LB2WS | Mfr#:KTM2865/4G Delivery 3-5 days €267.83 €267.83



Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 S775 3.0ghz 4mb Cache 1333FSB
quicklinx:4MM7WS | Mfr#:BX80557E6850 In stock now €231.08 €231.08



Asustek AM2 nForce 590SLI ATX Audio Dual VGA Lan
quicklinx:45M1WS | Mfr#:CROSSHAIR In stock now €179.18 €179.18



Dabs Value 720W PSU Black 12cm
quicklinx:48M1WS | Mfr#: In stock now €74.05 €74.05



Dabs Value Midi Tower 400W - Black
quicklinx:4F2ZWS | Mfr#:8026C4 In stock now €36.85 €36.85

Fnz

Seems like you're picking out out some fairly expensive components.

€55 for a cd±rw & DVD ROM combo drive is too much when you can get DVD±RW drives from as little as €25. [Link]

If your going to spend that much on a processor you probably might as well get a quad core? Otherwise consider the dual core E6750 and use the money saved to upgrade to the €262 Dabs Value GeForce 8800GTS 512MB - it's out of stock at the minute though.

The RAM seem pretty dear too. Is this the ram? I'm not an expert but that looks like some old RAM.

Actually... you'd probably be better off waiting for someone wiser (than me) in the ways of components to help... looking at your motherboard I can see that it's not compatible with the processor you've chosen. You need an Intel compatible motherboard for the Intel processors.

Too tired at the moment to suggest alternatives...

Not to sound cruel or anything, as I'm sure you'll get any building advise you want here, but Dell have a well specced machine for €815 at the minute. It's mentioned in this thread: [Link]

RoyalMarine

HP Combo Drive CD-RW & DVD-ROM
quicklinx:4DBDWS | Mfr#L976B In stock now €55.61 €55.61

not the best. its not a dvd burner. its only a cd writer and dvd reader.
get a dvd burner instead. they go for about 30 euro's.



Samsung 500GB S300 16MB 7200RPM
quicklinx:4C0KWS | Mfr#:HD501LJ In stock now €88.72 €88.72

this one is a lot better. worth the extra 10 euro's.
http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4QXH&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=500gb&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0



Dabs Value All in One Internal Card Reader USB2 Black
quicklinx:4M5YWS | Mfr#:CR005 In stock now €12.46 €12.46

thats fine if you want it. not a problem.


Dabs Value GeForce 8800GT 512MB DDR3 PCIE DUAL DVI 600/1800
quicklinx:4S89WS | Mfr#:8800GT-H5GTCDS In stock now €230.35 €230.35

excellent card. no problems with it. it will play everything you want.

Kingston 4GB Kit
quicklinx:3LB2WS | Mfr#:KTM2865/4G Delivery 3-5 days €267.83 €267.83

expensive ram. you would be better with this 4gb set. its only 100 euro!
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=333974

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 S775 3.0ghz 4mb Cache 1333FSB
quicklinx:4MM7WS | Mfr#:BX80557E6850 In stock now €231.08 €231.08

excellent processor aswel. really fast. and great potential for overclocking.


Asustek AM2 nForce 590SLI ATX Audio Dual VGA Lan
quicklinx:45M1WS | Mfr#:CROSSHAIR In stock now €179.18 €179.18

this board is for amd processor's. the processor you picked is an intel.
they wont work together. completly different.
try this board. its exceptionally good.
http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4S5S&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,405070000


Dabs Value 720W PSU Black 12cm
quicklinx:48M1WS | Mfr#: In stock now €74.05 €74.05

this would be better in my opinion. better make.
http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4L08&CategorySelectedId=11259&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11259,49450000



Dabs Value Midi Tower 400W - Black
quicklinx:4F2ZWS | Mfr#:8026C4 In stock now €36.85 €36.85

horrible case. sorry but it is.
spend some decent money on a case.
this would be excellent for the parts your buying.
http://www.dabs.ie/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=3FCH&CategorySelectedId=11145&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11145,47900000


hope this helps.

vince-sebastian

thanks so much for all the help

im looking at this now.... slightly better graphics card?

and about a quad core processor.... what difference would it make really? i notice its slightly slower than the dual core?

i think the only thing missing here s the ram, which i can get for much cheaper at komplett... thanks

and another stupid question... theres no need for a sound card is there?

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product name in stock quantity item price line price move to wishlist remove

Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200 Laser
quicklinx:4DRTWS | Mfr#:967688-0120
In stock now
€80.33 €80.33

Dabs Value 20" Wide L-2041W 8ms LCD TFT
quicklinx:4S41WS | Mfr#:L-2041W
In stock now
€140.02 €140.02

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz OEM
quicklinx:4S5ZWS | Mfr#:HH80562PH0568M
In stock now
€218.84 €218.84

Asustek Nvidia GeForce 8800GTS 512MB DDR3 650/1940 PCIE
quicklinx:4XG9WS | Mfr#:EN8800GTS/HTDP/
In stock now
€284.51 €284.51

Dabs Value All in One Internal Card Reader USB2 Black
quicklinx:4M5YWS | Mfr#:CR005
In stock now
€12.46 €12.46

Samsung 52x DVD COMBO BARE DRIVE NERO BLACK
quicklinx:4QJYWS | Mfr#:SH-M522C/BEBN
Due in 5-7 days
€23.57 €23.57

Thermaltake Tsunami Aluminium Black Case with Window - No PSU
quicklinx:3FCHWS | Mfr#:VA3000BWA
In stock now
€104.41 €104.41

OCZ Technology 700W Active PFC GameXStream SLI Ready
quicklinx:4L08WS | Mfr#:OCZ700GXSSLI
In stock now
€105.92 €105.92

Asustek S775 Intel X38 ATX Audio Lan
quicklinx:4S5SWS | Mfr#:MAXIMUS FORMULA
In stock now
€226.95 €226.95

Seagate Barracuda 7200.1 500GB 7200RPM S300 32MB
quicklinx:4QXHWS | Mfr#:ST3500320AS
In stock now
€97.38 €97.38

OCZ Gold XTC DDR2 PC6400 4096MB KIT, w/two 2048MB PC6400 XTC, CL5-5-5-15

Article number: 333974
Stock status: 50-99 stocked 103.00

PogMoThoin

Any reason for having 2 gpu's listed:

Asustek Nvidia GeForce 8800GTS 512MB DDR3 650/1940 PCIE
quicklinx:4XG9WS | Mfr#:EN8800GTS/HTDP/
In stock now
€284.51 €284.51

and

Dabs Value GeForce 8800GTS 512MB DDR3 PCIE Dual DVI 650/1625
quicklinx:4TZ4WS | Mfr#:8800GTS-H5GTCDS
None in stock
€261.89 €261.89

You got no ram in that list either.

Edit: only saw this now:

i think the only thing missing here s the ram, which i can get for much cheaper at komplett... thanks

vince-sebastian

oops... :S a fixed now methinks, cheers

RoyalMarine

probably best with the quad core.

no you dont need a sound card. the built in sound on that motherboard is great.

just get a good set of speakers and your sorted.

SeanW

I would recommend the Floppy Disk + Card Reader on this page:
http://www.marxcomputers.ie/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=floppy&cart_id=

instead of the DabsValue card reader you're looking at.

It supports more media types (MMC and full sized Secure Digital - this is critical) and also doubles up as a bootable floppy drive, which can be handy.

SwampThing

Check the rig in my signature. I'm not sure the quad core was the wisest investment of my money - I rarely if ever see the 4 cores working simultaneously, except maybe for DVD encoding or the likes.

I haven't checked the prices on the different processors (dual vs quad), but if there's a significant enough difference, you might want to think if you really are going to see the benefits.

My 2c, for what it's worth.

yoyo

SwampThing wrote: »

Check the rig in my signature. I'm not sure the quad core was the wisest investment of my money - I rarely if ever see the 4 cores working simultaneously, except maybe for DVD encoding or the likes.

I haven't checked the prices on the different processors (dual vs quad), but if there's a significant enough difference, you might want to think if you really are going to see the benefits.

My 2c, for what it's worth.

Games like Alan Wake and many future games will all take advantage of more cores, also I've seen games like World In Conflict, HL2, Crysis, and many others use four cores similtaniously, their good value for money atm too, then again the dual cores are cheaper and can overclock easier, but the quads are pritty good value for money if you look at the future benefits

Nick