How the hell do they get that sound!!??

Patricide

Ok been trying to get a guitar tone somewhat similar to these on a few different guitar amps and i now believe that its not possible. Does anyone on gods green earth know how to eq an amp so it sounds like the following few bands:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=4895190

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=191956874

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=9918680

Meshuggah and sikth are other bands with this kind of tone, At first i thought that it was the bogner ubershall and no other amp could recreate this sound but red seas fire apparently used marshall mgdfx 100's, periphery used mesa boogies, sikth used peavy 5150, and terrasect used mesa's and marshalls.

If anyone has any clue how to even start going down this path for tone please give me a shout.

Doctor J

Ahhh man, you're forgetting to include the mics used in the studio, the amount of mics used and their placements, how they were mixed, the room the cab was in, the mic pres used, the eq settings on the desk, the compression and effects used in the mix and the compression and eq applied by the guy who mastered it

Karl Hungus

Also, tuning. Periphery play in G, and Meshuggah play in F. That's a big part of the sound.

unclebill98

Doctor J wrote: »

Ahhh man, you're forgetting to include the mics used in the studio, the amount of mics used and their placements, how they were mixed, the room the cab was in, the mic pres used, the eq settings on the desk, the compression and effects used in the mix and the compression and eq applied by the guy who mastered it

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Also, tuning. Periphery play in G, and Meshuggah play in F. That's a big part of the sound.

So in suming up you need to spend 2 years in a high end recording studio and maybe the actual artist themselves to show you or you could just develop your own sound

Beecher

I dont think Periphery used Mesa's for the recording. Misha (Bulb) mainly uses a POD XT for recording for both his own stuff and Periphery. I believe Meshuggah are quite partial to the old Pods themselves.



Could be something worth looking into.

Patricide

yup, looking to recrate somthing similar using the metal packs in my toneport(Same stuff as the pods) so i know there has to be a way. Also never mind the way they recorded j, they get those tones live too so im looking for somthing ballpark, those tones are killer!!

Passenger

Patricide wrote: »

yup, looking to recrate somthing similar using the metal packs in my toneport(Same stuff as the pods) so i know there has to be a way. Also never mind the way they recorded j, they get those tones live too so im looking for somthing ballpark, those tones are killer!!

Hey Patricide, how are you getting any decent metal tone using the TonePort? I've been using it and the sound is crap. How are you recording it? Straight into the PC, Amp, Mixer, Desk, what?

Beecher

Patricide wrote: »

yup, looking to recrate somthing similar using the metal packs in my toneport(Same stuff as the pods) so i know there has to be a way. Also never mind the way they recorded j, they get those tones live too so im looking for somthing ballpark, those tones are killer!!

Since you have a Toneport you could try Bulbs Pod patch, its over on Sevenstring.org. Im not sure if it uses any elements not available to the Toneport but its worth a shot.

Edit: Also putting a Tubescreamer in front of your amp/pod will help tighten the tone.

Karl Hungus

What kind of tuning are you using, Patricide?

Patricide

using drop c and drop b somtimes, yea getting some nice sounds out of it alright. Got the metal pack add on though so that could be just that.

Den_M

Is the metal pack worth it? How do the amps included with it compare to the ones with Guitar Rig or Amplitube?

Passenger

Den_M wrote: »

Is the metal pack worth it? How do the amps included with it compare to the ones with Guitar Rig or Amplitube?

Apperently AmpliTube is the best at recreating Guitar amps especially a metal guitar tone. The standard amps that come with TonePort are crap.

What hardware interface do you have for Guitar Rig?

Den_M

Passenger wrote: »

What hardware interface do you have for Guitar Rig?

I use the Toneport on tuning mode to get a dry signal.

Patricide

well check it for yourself, some rough tracks iv done with the toneport are here www.bebo.com/resurrectirl (thats a tone from the metal pack, not my choice of the tone though blame me guitarist)

then theres www.bebo.com/fearofthesouth thats using some bog standard tones from the toneport.

Neither of those tones really show it off to be honest i got some savage tones out of it in recordings i have myself using both the metal pack and the standard amps. Tis all bout just making the right descisions with bass and what drum sound you have going on in the backround imo.

Anyway back on topic looked around 7string.com and i cant find the patch for the pod that bulb uses anyone wanna shed some light for me?

Karl Hungus

Patricide wrote: »

using drop c and drop b somtimes, yea getting some nice sounds out of it alright. Got the metal pack add on though so that could be just that.

Ah, well I don't think you're going to get that kind of sound unless you tune a bit lower. Sikth play in Ab for some songs, as far as I know.

Karl Hungus

Patricide wrote: »

Anyway back on topic looked around 7string.com and i cant find the patch for the pod that bulb uses anyone wanna shed some light for me?

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/downloads.php?

Vim Fuego

While we're on the subject, does anyone know any websites where guitarport users can share patches and so on? I've had a search around and no luck so far.

Patricide

nope, me neither. there is a line 6 service that does this whenn you open gearbox but the tones are prettty ammm, Crapola.

Vim Fuego

The GP online thing? Yeah, that is fairly poor.

I found this though: http://www.line6.com/customtone/ Just had a quick look so far but it's a user-uploading library of tones so looking forward to giving them a go.