Seniors in January?

JMCD

Just wondering is anybody competing in the upcoming seniors???

cowzerp

Well i'm not fighting boxing anymore and as far as i know neither is MBC, all the other lads that would of boxed at this level walshb and wardyeire are old! so there out too! thats all the competitive boxers i know that do be on boards, mainly fans on this 1..

ROCKMAN

The last time I boxed " the stadium ", some spainish guy was about to go off sailing a short cut to Indina / China .

But may be doing as mate (trainer ) has one fighter there.

JMCD

How come your not boxing anymore cowzer?
Any one heading along then? If so what would be your predictions?
Can ye see many of the lads last year retaining their title?

walshb

The seniors, always guaranteed quality boxing and very
competitive...
I just hope RTE screen the fights, well at least the finals....

I will be watching Ahern at 51kg and Joyce at 57kg...

I think Donovan will be 60kgs this year....

Barnes will be nice to watch also at 48kgs...

My predictions are Barnes, Ahern, Lindenberg, David Joyce, Donovan,
John Joe Joyce, Sheehan, Sutherland, Egan, Timms, McConagle.....

JMCD

Yea RTE are showing the finals on the saturay or is it friday??? In anyway they are showing them......just hope that they show the whole card instead of just 3 or 4 selected fights although that would be even better than nothing.

Very similar to my predictions walshie but would be intresting to see if the two lads that gave Ahern and Lindenberg a stiff challenge be back this year again? They both only wne by a single score respectively.

Should be great nights boxing do.

cowzerp

JMCD wrote: »

How come your not boxing anymore cowzer?
Any one heading along then? If so what would be your predictions?
Can ye see many of the lads last year retaining their title?

after years of boxing and starving myself to make the weight on top of training 3 times a day i decided to gain weight and fight mma, im big for the weight even though im a stone heavier than my old boxing weight and in boxing i was shorter than most , boxing is still my 1st love and i regularly think of fighting again and may do next year, walshb made great predictions so i dont need to now!!

jayroyal

i really fancy o neill to beat sutherland by few points anyone else thin k this it will be a cracker and also there's a guy called Anthony Cacace to win 60kg he's class act, also johnjoe nevin at 54kgs very classy kid think alot of people think there will be no new champions should be great though

efb

Sutherland and O'Neill should be a cracker. I don't fany O'Neill on points, he conceeds far too many, but that one will never go the distance. Love O'Neill to win it!

walshb

Of all my predictions, I think Timms is the one I would be least
confident with. A great ambassador for the sport and a real warrior.
He's 30/31 now I'm sure and he can't have many fights left in him
at 91kg...

Frampton at 54kg will be a tough challenger for Lindenberg....

And I am also looking forward to Joyce and Carlyle at 64kg....

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

Of all my predictions, I think Timms is the one I would be least

And I am also looking forward to Joyce and Carlyle at 64kg....

Timms can have his off days all right!

Carlyle has'nt been at his best for years and i dont think he'll be competitive this year to be honest if he comes up against joyce.

MBC

Ah another year is upon us.

48kg
Another good scrap between barnes & moore......to be honest our sole *******n should win. Barnes

51kg I think the movement of JJ Nevin to 54kg will leave this between ahern & cox......was a good scrap last year ahern should have lost his crown....... think ahern just has too much experience for cox but he will be ran very close again. Ahern

54kg Lindgberg is favourite but Nevin should give him a good shot.......wouldn't write off thorpe just yet who has caused upsets in the past. Lindberg


57kg cracking weight Joyce of course is favourite but if ever someone was to take him its someone from this weight framton, fennessy, touhey, kilroy will all run him close. Joyce

60kg another cracking weight.......my tip Stephen Ormond. although Donovan, Bates & Hickey will have a lot to say. Also young Cacace could be an outsider. Also good to see McComb back was very good as a kid. Ormond

64kg it may be a bit too early for young Sutcliffe, kavanagh & murray but they will run joyce close. Sutcliffe

69Kg Sheehan has been very consistent over the last few years. O'Neill is a contender. Sheehan

75kg Sutherland.

81kg Egan

91kg Con Sheehan

91+ Sweeney or Joyce from Moate.

yomchi

Just talking about the seniors there, I bumped into an old friend of mine Glen Stephens on the street the other day. I'm sure most of the guys here ould have come across Glen at some point having won the seniors a few times at middle weight (IIRC). He's only half they guy he used to be
Sorry, completely off topic!

MBC

Jon wrote: »

Just talking about the seniors there, I bumped into an old friend of mine Glen Stephens on the street the other day. I'm sure most of the guys here ould have come across Glen at some point having won the seniors a few times at middle weight (IIRC). He's only half they guy he used to be
Sorry, completely off topic!

Are you sure it wasn't lightweight (60kg) he won them at?

yomchi

Just checked there, yeh it was light weight!

jayroyal

just looking at the entries there on the iaba websites 60kg looks a cracker of a weight any one of them have a great chance, hope touhey fights joyce at some stage that would be a cracker also i think cox might beat ahearn this year.

48KG - BARNES
51KG - COX
54KG - NEVIN
57KG - JOYCE
60KG - CACACE WONDER IF ORMONDE STILL HAS IT
64KG - JOYCE
69KG - SHEENAN, MCDONAGH WILL BE CLOSE TO HIM
75KG - O' NEILL WINS A CRACKER
81KG - EGAN
91KG - SWEENEY
91+KG - JOYCE

JMCD

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64kg it may be a bit too early for young Sutcliffe, kavanagh & murray but they will run joyce close. Sutcliffe

Cant really see the two youngsters challenging joyce. They are great talents and future champions without a doubt......sure PSJ won the 19s and Kavanagh won u-21s and inters this year alone but joyce's experience should get him through

69Kg Sheehan has been very consistent over the last few years. O'Neill is a contender. Sheehan Yea O'Neill is back think he missed last year through injury do.....mc donagh might have a chance...if its the same mcdonagh I am thinking of.


91kg Con Sheehan Going to go for sweeney on this one......unlucky last year losing by a point to timms who went on to win it...and represnted ireland this year aswell I think....

91+ Sweeney or Joyce from Moate.[/QUOTE] Agree on that aswell MBC.

yomchi

Thats exactly it, the judge lobbed the book at him. I thought his stint inside would sort him out but it hasn't really.
Still amid all of that he still drops christmas cards into his friends houses and is a very loveable fella.

MBC

Seen a lot of people from boxing when they take a while out they hit the bottle a bit...........meself included.........its a very demanding sport and takes a lot dedication esp when your at the top...........tough when your 16 to young 20's seeing your mates go out on the lash and your heading to the cinema with a bottle of water and packet of non butter pop corn.

When I knocked the boxing on the head for a while I used to think I had a lot to catch up on in terms of drinking & partying.........turns out its a load of hulabulu........when i went back to the sport I was never the same.


Jon - Just getting back onto the point of Glen........now we know he was only a lightweight is he still looking that bad?

jayroyal

boxing must be the toughest sport out there when your young i remember lads who gave it up so young cause it's so hard after winning so many irish titles. Does anywhere hear think ya should push kids too hard when your young just to win titles then they'd trained so hard they get bored of the sport and stuff. Or after all does these just makes the different from lads that go on to win seniors and not just juniors.

yomchi

MBC wrote: »

Seen a lot of people from boxing when they take a while out they hit the bottle a bit...........meself included.........its a very demanding sport and takes a lot dedication esp when your at the top...........tough when your 16 to young 20's seeing your mates go out on the lash and your heading to the cinema with a bottle of water and packet of non butter pop corn.

When I knocked the boxing on the head for a while I used to think I had a lot to catch up on in terms of drinking & partying.........turns out its a load of hulabulu........when i went back to the sport I was never the same.


Jon - Just getting back onto the point of Glen........now we know he was only a lightweight is he still looking that bad?

He actually looks well, thats why I reckoned he was a middle weight as he's about that now maybe a tad heavier but he still looks fit. It suits him much better.

yomchi

Some great boxing last night at the stadium. The heavy weights were impressive. Young Sutcliffe got a lucky decision, he was on his way to being beatin and got a last minute stoppage(cut). He'll be fighting Joyce tonight, I reckon Joyce will take him as Sutcliffe didn't look to hot last night and started to fade in the 3rd allowing his man to come back.
Bad lose for Riggs as well 19-1 I think it was, his brother Mark was a good boxer.
There's been a lot of Bye's to the final also which is a pity.

MBC

Yeah I heard that about phil jnr last night........heard he raced into a lead but nearly let it slip. Heard his team mate Jamie Kavanagh was very impressive.

I think its a lot better that the seniors are over 5/6 days rather than 3 weeks......all multi-nations comps are always over in 5/6 days.

yomchi

Makes better sense alright.

MBC

Some interesting results last night: Sutcliffe got stopped maybe a year to early for him, he is a fantastic talent and will come good.

Conor Ahern anyone know why he lost a w/o? seems strange

JJ Nevin good win against Lindberg.

Eric Donovan lost to Ross Hickey........Hickey is a very good point scorer.

Cacace beating Ormond.....the young gun seems to be coming very good.

Kavanagh beating Murray.....good win.

dbrady01

the examiner web site said the Conor Ahern was suffering from vertigo as a result of an ear infection so had to pull out and give a w/o

MBC

dbrady01 wrote: »

the examiner web site said the Conor Ahern was suffering from vertigo as a result of an ear infection so had to pull out and give a w/o

Thats a pity......would have been another cracker with him & Cox.

dbrady01

i agree

can anyone see any upsets tonight. 3 of the high performance team went out last night anyone think more will follow tonight

jayroyal

cacane was a class act last night be a score fight tonight both counter puncher , nevin won well great little kid our best talent for a good while i think also think o ' neill wins tonight well i hope so, jamie will give joyce a go but he's still only 17 .Mcdonagh and sheanan will be close scores wise but sheanan should win.

MBC

Actually once again the heavy division should be a good scrap well done to Tommy Sheehan on his comeback......although the young Con sheehan is v.good

Barnes - its 1-1 with these 2 but our sole *******n should win....moore has come a long way in the last few years. Good scrap.
Cox
Nevin - Doheny is elusive but Nevin is class
Joyce - Fennessy will push him I'd say this year.....potential upset.
Hickey deserves a title.......he was unlucky against Donovan last year......the scoring was way off.....Cacace is v.ggod should be a cracking exhibition of counter punching.
Hard to luck past JJ Joyce........although Kavanagh is a very good talent.
Sheehan should be too good for McDonagh
Fight of the Night......hard to pick....i'll go with Sutherland
Egan
Sheehan defo:p......but which one.....i'll go with the young gun Con
McMonagle

Haven't seen any of this years seniors and dont think i'll make tonight:mad:

dbrady01

very good standard this year hopefully a few of tonights winners can go forward and qualify for the olympics

dbrady01

just seen this on the rte site

Super heavyweight Cathal McMonagle has received a walkover after Alex Vedernikov had to withdraw from tonight's final at the National Senior Championships because of a family illness.

joepenguin

missed out on the coverage, will there be re runs or even highlights on rte at this stage?

dbrady01

You can watch it on the rte web site just go to the sport section

walshb

I watched the whole lot on RTE Friday night. Great nights boxing
as usual, but the judging is an absolute disgrace...

The first fight shown was in the 91kg division between the two Sheehan lads and the 18 year old won 6-3...

Well to see the loser go 3 consecutive rds, 2-4, without registering a single score was disgusting. Carruth nailed it when he said the judges need to go to
spec savers.... I actually gave the fight to the 28 year old Sheehan who lost on the scores...

Then Paddy Barnes beats Moore by a ridiculous score of 13 or 14-0 before Moore's corner throw in the towel...

Barnes was the better man, but for Moore to not register a point for more than 3 rds is simply shambolic...

Bernard Dunne nailed this one when he said the corner threw in the towel
in protest at Moore not scoring a single point...

dbrady01

the scoring at times was unbelivable. I was there myself and the crowed were booing the judging alot. I thaught kavanagh was unlucky to be stopped on the 20 point rule joyce was brilliant and desirved to win but kavanagh diserved a few more points i reckon. Felt sorry for Moore there is no way he didnt get one clean shot on target

yomchi

Seen the same thing on Wednesday in the quarters, lads going 4 rounds and not scoring a point, simply ridiculous and insulting the boxers.

walshb

All in all, I wouldn't be too confident of anymore qualifiers for Beijing..

The lads are a credit and are dedicated no doubt, but I think that the talent
is not enough to gain a place in Beijing....

They are good, but NOT good enough...

I hope more qualify, but I am a little pessimistic of their chances...

Barnes is good, but a medal IMO is not within
his grasp, regardless of the DRAW he receives...

sligobhoy67

walshb wrote: »

All in all, I wouldn't be too confident of anymore qualifiers for Beijing..

The lads are a credit and are dedicated no doubt, but I think that the talent
is not enough to gain a place in Beijing....

They are good, but NOT good enough...

I hope more qualify, but I am a little pessimistic of their chances...

Barnes is good, but a medal IMO is not within
his grasp, regardless of the DRAW he receives...

Barnes lost his quater final to to Zou - I didnt see the fight but 22-8 is convincing but not a streamrollering, however Zou took gold after stopping the Algerian and hammering the Philippino 17-3 in the final - on face value of that Barnes must have a chance of a medal.

Like I say I didnt see his quarter final - did anyone else?

walshb

Barnes did lose by that score. But I wouldn't even look at some of those scores in determining an opponents quality as the scores at times are disgraceful. He lost to the worlds best or one of them, as the Cubans
didn't compete in Chicago...I am simply going by what I have seen of Barnes in two or three of his fights, including his win on Friday night...

Good win, but he needs a huge improvement on this to win a medal...

jayroyal

ah come on egan and that cocky clown sutherland have to have a great shout to quailfy going by there results in last few years also now we have jj nnevin at bantam his style has to give him a shout i think. sheenan and hickey i'll go to do well be tight if the qualify, but remember who ever doesn't quaify for the games have to box off again in march against the semi finalists of the senior to see who goes to last qualifer.
The scoring was very bad at time cause now you can see the score at ringside, sucko's fight against jj joyce was terrible at times but joyce is a class act but problem is he's wont be getting those scores he's gets in the stadium when he's in quailfiers.

walshb

jayroyal wrote: »

ah come on egan and that cocky clown sutherland have to have a great shout to quailfy going by there results in last few years also now we have jj nnevin at bantam his style has to give him a shout i think. sheenan and hickey i'll go to do well be tight if the qualify, but remember who ever doesn't quaify for the games have to box off again in march against the semi finalists of the senior to see who goes to last qualifer.
The scoring was very bad at time cause now you can see the score at ringside, sucko's fight against jj joyce was terrible at times but joyce is a class act but problem is he's wont be getting those scores he's gets in the stadium when he's in quailfiers.

Nevin better increase his work rate then. Apparently he and his opponent were warned by the ref to start fighting....RTE only showed the 4th rd because fu** all happened in the 3 previouas rds....

alanceltic

Wouldnt fancy Egan to do a whole lot, I would say he is good enough to qualify alright but I just dont think he cuts the mustard at olympic level, I know he has done well in previous european competitions etc but I think he qualifys and gives a decent account of himself. Sutherland I think will struggle to qualify, he will make a much better pro than amateur as he hits some ferocious body shots and seems to carry big power in both paws but I think he gets outpointed by some crafty operator with half his ability. My dark horse is JJ Joyce, was really impressed with him and if he performs to his abilities I think he could cause an upset or two.

dbrady01

I think we will struggle to qualify and more boxers. Egan and sutherland have the best chance but are not bankers by no means. I would like to see jj joyce get tru but its a tough ask. I cant see much point in the box offs the iaba plan to hold in between the 2 remanind qualifiers i cant really see the squad changing unless a few of the lads get tru in italy

jayroyal

walshb wrote: »

Nevin better increase his work rate then. Apparently he and his opponent were warned by the ref to start fighting....RTE only showed the 4th rd because fu** all happened in the 3 previouas rds....

good point but he's an out and out counter puncher and is one of the best i've seen at it thats why i think he style might suit him as he would not be known on the senior circuit.:D

dub09

Jon wrote: »

Just talking about the seniors there, I bumped into an old friend of mine Glen Stephens on the street the other day. I'm sure most of the guys here ould have come across Glen at some point having won the seniors a few times at middle weight (IIRC). He's only half they guy he used to be
Sorry, completely off topic!

Glen Stephens here I certainly dont look like half the man i was.. Im looking and feeling as good as ever

JMCD

dub09 wrote: »

Glen Stephens here I certainly dont look like half the man i was.. Im looking and feeling as good as ever

Thats great news Glen, fair play to ya.

You back boxing?