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Guinness shame on you

  • 27-12-2007 4:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone like me think that Guinness moving from St.James' gate is a national shame akin to Bertie getting back into office?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Rhiannon14


    Where's it going? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    I pissed right now. does that count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Does anyone like me think that Guinness moving from St.James' gate is a national shame akin to Bertie getting back into office?

    meh, the site is worth a ridiculous amount of money, why wouldn't they move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭ericl


    Where's it going,? thought there was a 9000 year lease.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭sidneykidney


    I heard that it will be moving to Leixlip Co.Kildare. Not sure how true this is.:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭RINO87


    wait now, moving WHAT????? if they are it's a disgrace, but then it's what we've come to expect from diageo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 ShakeAndBake


    It is moving to the first place that the pints were brewed, Leixlip or somewhere.

    Spiritual home is how it was described, I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    I didn't know they were moving, I heard they were talking about it but decided not to. Shame anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    A national disgrace how? It is not leaving the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    what on earth is left in this city to attract tourists?

    on a sort of related note, I miss Frawleys
    the guy that owns it told me that it's all being sold to become a "cultural spot" with restaurants and hotels and stuff
    so bye bye Thomas street


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Moving out of the ****tiest county in ireland you say? Yay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭daniel3982


    Lets get something decent built there if it, not ****e like we have at the Docklands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I heard that it will be moving to Leixlip Co.Kildare. Not sure how true this is.:(
    It is moving to the first place that the pints were brewed, Leixlip or somewhere.

    Spiritual home is how it was described, I think.

    First I've heard of it and there isn't much that gets past me in this town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    In fairness, they're taking the move pretty seriously. I completed an online survey, as I'm sure others did too, about whether my attitude towards Guinness would change if they moved.

    Personally I don't care. It doesn't bother me where it's made. I'm sure it does bother some, but it's certainly not a 'national disgrace', and I wouldn't say 'shame on' Guinness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭FunkyChicken


    Leixlip is a dump I hope they dont move out there

    ps. where the hell did you people hear about this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Tha Gopher


    eh, no?

    Personally Im more annoyed they are not allowing homes to be built on the site when they do move. Its a fcuking brewery ffs, not the GPO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Cant we get some actual factual linkage here I heard there was a consideration a long time ago and heard nothing since also a lot of the buildings on the james gate site would be listed so its not like it can be knocked down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Who cares. I think it's embarrasing that tourists come to Dublin and the best thing we have to show them is a brewery.

    They should build a nice new casino on the vacant land.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dub13


    They have appointed consultants to look at the possibility of a move,with property prices so high in Dublin city they will likely find moving very attractive.

    If they do decide to move they have identified two possible sites one in Leixlip and the other one out in Balbriggian,the balbriggian one is the front runner for various reasons such as a new port planed for the area.

    Dublin City Council are trying to stop the move they are looking at a motion to rezone the land so no development can happen on it thus dramatically decreasing the value of the land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Guinness will move to a state of the art facility in Balbriggan. St James Gate will be sold and the rats will be homeless. AFAIK the Hopstore will remain a tourist attraction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    There was something mentioned about this around August Sept in the news, but nothing was confirmed after.
    Wait and see ... they may not even do anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    I heard that it will be moving to Leixlip Co.Kildare. Not sure how true this is.:(
    Back to that small little hotel? I think not!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Caliden wrote: »
    Moving out of the ****tiest county in ireland you say? Yay

    And they say Cork folk have an inflated sense of the importance of their county? Jesus. Fair play to Galwegians- despite it being by far the windiest rainyest most depressing miles from anywhere godforsaken kip* in Ireland I have never met a Galway person who doesnt love the homeland.



    *: Galway city is quite nice in terms of appearance, and there are alot of good looking naturally tanned black haired women out there with a nearly Mediterranean type appearance, but if I had to put up with weather like that Id kill myself quite frankly. And dont get me started on the misery of small town Galway. I was quite honestly awe struck by the amount of immigrants in Galway, as I was baffled as to how any of them would deliberately move to what must be by far the wettest part of Ireland.

    Oh, and what does shoop the woop mean? :D Galway girl I know has it on her bebo and all :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    phasers wrote: »
    what on earth is left in this city to attract tourists?
    phasers wrote: »
    on a sort of related note, I miss Frawleys

    Tourists used to come over to go to Fawleys?:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    What's this obsession with Guinness being Ireland's national drink? It only is because of suave marketing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Tourists used to come over to go to Fawleys?:eek:

    yes, fat culchies went there for their 5XL jeans


    and fat dubs too, before anybody gives out to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    What's this obsession with Guinness being Ireland's national drink? It only is because of suave marketing
    Also cos it's made here, was originally made here, and we've been drinking the stuff for a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Gimme a pint of Beamish in the Oval bar across the road from the Beamish & Crawford tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    I heard that it will be moving to Leixlip Co.Kildare. Not sure how true this is.:(

    Oh god no! I hate the smell of brewry in the morning.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Leon11


    Guinness will move to a state of the art facility in Balbriggan. St James Gate will be sold and the rats will be homeless. AFAIK the Hopstore will remain a tourist attraction.

    It's all part of their plan to get Guinness huge in Africa.

    Part A: Move it to a satellite town in Balbriggan.
    Part B: ?????
    Part C: Profit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    shane86 wrote: »
    And they say Cork folk have an inflated sense of the importance of their county? Jesus. Fair play to Galwegians- despite it being by far the windiest rainyest most depressing miles from anywhere godforsaken kip* in Ireland I have never met a Galway person who doesnt love the homeland.



    *: Galway city is quite nice in terms of appearance, and there are alot of good looking naturally tanned black haired women out there with a nearly Mediterranean type appearance, but if I had to put up with weather like that Id kill myself quite frankly. And dont get me started on the misery of small town Galway. I was quite honestly awe struck by the amount of immigrants in Galway, as I was baffled as to how any of them would deliberately move to what must be by far the wettest part of Ireland.

    Oh, and what does shoop the woop mean? :D Galway girl I know has it on her bebo and all :confused:

    Oh look you're from dublin **** off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    as long as they dont put a few thousand people out of work i dont care where in ireland they move, besides dont they need the water from the liffey to make the stuff, something about it being the only water source suitable for guinness


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    as long as they dont put a few thousand people out of work i dont care where in ireland they move, besides dont they need the water from the liffey to make the stuff, something about it being the only water source suitable for guinness
    They use to brew it in London until recently, treated the local water so it had (almost) the same chemical properties as the Liffey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭Fanny Cradock


    A seizable proportion of the Guinness produced in the world is manufactured in Nigeria. Guinness is just a brand nowadays, and a faltering one at that in countries like Ireland. Diageo have been thinking of ditching James' gate for a long time. Any sources to confirm this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭shane86


    Caliden wrote: »
    Oh look you're from dublin **** off

    Are you jealous Galway women seem to like Dublin accents? :)

    Seriously though, apart from maybe Athlone nearly every other place you wouldnt fancy living has its upsides, or is near somewhere decent. Dundalk for example. Bit of a kip, but its near Newry and the Down coast, and isnt all that far from Belfast, nice area around the coast there generally. Drogheda and Navan- not the nicest spots, but only an hour from the big smoke. But Galway is seemingly rain rain and more rain. Ive a gang of mates who head once a year without fail, and my foreign workmates seem to think Galway is some heavenly land, they head constantly. Which is odd seeing as they constantly complain about the Irish weather in general- if they regard Dublin as too cold, wet and windy I havent got a clue why they like Galway :confused: Personally I dont think Id touch it with a bargepole again, it costs an arm and a leg to get to and yil get washed out. Alot more craic paying as much/slightly less to visit a city across the water like Liverpool. Im not saying Dublin is brilliant. Its not. Its overpriced, full of traffic and has quite possibly the worst club scene of any large European city, and when talking to foreigners abroad I always tell them Dublin is not worth wasting their money visiting. Personally Id be sick if I went to a European city on holiday and frequented a nightclub playing awful cheese which shuts at 2:30am. But Id still prefer it to the Galway weather.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    IT's because in Galway you dont have to get a taxi everywhere unlike Dublin.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Real B-man


    Wheres a credible source that its moving?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Guinness will move to a state of the art facility in Balbriggan.

    Ah you see you would have got away with that if you hadn't put "Balbriggan" and "state of the art" in the same sentence :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭dazberry


    They use to brew it in London until recently, treated the local water so it had (almost) the same chemical properties as the Liffey.

    Rats p1ss?

    On a more serious note (G# apparently) - like most other manufacturing its all being pushed out further and further - St James' Gate isn't any different BUT if they put something good in there its progress. If they put in 50 million undersized and overpriced apartments well they can feck off so.

    D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭Lump


    90% of the land on the Docks isn't used by them - They'll still have the visitors centre there - It's just all the land that runs from the station along the quays they'll get rid of surely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Ah you see you would have got away with that if you hadn't put "Balbriggan" and "state of the art" in the same sentence :p

    As we speak, plant design is at a very advanced stage. Balbriggan does probably sound surprising, but not when you consider that Dublin port will also be moving there. You can expect Balbriggan to be a much different place within 5 years.

    Have a laugh, but I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    is there a source for this yet or is this recycling of the rumours that have been doing the rounds for years now?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    As we speak, plant design is at a very advanced stage. Balbriggan does probably sound surprising, but not when you consider that Dublin port will also be moving there. You can expect Balbriggan to be a much different place within 5 years.

    Have a laugh, but I know.

    And where, pray tell, is this proposed plant going to be in Balbriggan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    I heard they are going to use the site of the old intel ESSM plant. It's close to the Rye river, which is a tributary of the Liffey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Chinafoot wrote: »
    And where, pray tell, is this proposed plant going to be in Balbriggan?

    Sorry but you know enough already and I'm not running a Public Info service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Sorry but you know enough already and I'm not running a Public Info service.

    Well that's me convinced then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,372 ✭✭✭ongarite


    Terry wrote: »
    I heard they are going to use the site of the old intel ESSM plant. It's close to the Rye river, which is a tributary of the Liffey.

    Cool, now I can have chips with my pint, microchips...


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