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Santa's Dead!!!

  • 24-12-2007 11:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭


    Is There a Santa Claus? A Scientific Analysis
    1. No known species of reindeer can fly. However, there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not completely rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has seen.

    2. There are an estimated 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. But since Santa doesn’t – apparently – handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total – a mere 378 million, according to the Population Census Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that’s 91.8 million homes. One presumes there is at least one good child to each home.


    3. Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west, which seems logical. This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each ‘Christian’ household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get into the sleigh, and move on to the next house.

    Assuming that these 91,800,000 stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but which for purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .76 miles per household, a total trip of 75,500,000 miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours. This means that Santa’s sled is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times faster than the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second. A conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

    4. The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting the ability of ‘flying reindeer’ (see point 1) to pull perhaps ten times the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight or even nine. We need more. Actually, we need 214,191 more, or a total of 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload – not counting the weight of the sleigh – to 353,420 tons. Again, for comparison, this is four times the weight of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth.

    5. This 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance, which will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth’s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14,300,000,000,000,000,000 (14.3 quintillion) joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will almost instantaneously burst into flames, exposing the reindeer behind them, who will repeat the process, and they will also create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to acceleration forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

    In conclusion, if Santa ever did deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he’s dead now.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    Way to ruin Christmas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    I'm pretty sure all those arguments were countered by magic and fairy dust and are therefore null and void...

    Watch "The Santa Clause". And Merry Christmas to you too :)

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭squrm


    Santa's magic.

    End of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭seraphimvc


    someone heard of a movie called Stalking Santa?;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,208 ✭✭✭✭aidan_walsh


    Santa's magic.

    An irrefutable argument that utterly negates your statement.

    EDIT: Goddamn it squrm :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    timmywex is evil.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭RAFC


    OP do you really know anything - Santa is MAGIC hello!!!!!!

    Of course he is not dead :D he is coming to my house tonight, and if you want a visit too, 'you better watch out' and change your mind FAST :):):)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    I hearby order Science and Magic to stay at least 5 feet from each other at all times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    OP have obviously not seen the movie 'Miracle on 34th Street' where Santa explains how he can magically slow down time, and how his raindeer only fly on Christmas eve.

    Bah Humbug OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭l3LoWnA


    Miracle on 34th Street was on this morning but we couldn't watch it all :(

    Myself and the small one had to go to my work-place to meet Santa himself! He was there to tell all the children to go to bed early tonight and sleep tight. He said he was just going home to make sure the elves had the sleigh prepared and then he was heading off to deliver all the presents :D

    It's true!!

    Science? Meh!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,131 ✭✭✭subway


    i know someone whos not getting any presents this year .
    santy is magic, thats how he does it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,229 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Timmywex may have copied and pasted all of his post from various inaccurate internet sources, but I still believe that Santy will visit him tonight. I don't know what he's going to give him though, when he arrives with his big sack.:eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Great thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    I hear Santa will no longer be delivering coal to bold children. The Green's slapped a carbon tax on him for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭flogen


    toiletduck wrote: »
    I hear Santa will no longer be delivering coal to bold children. The Green's slapped a carbon tax on him for it.

    Nope, it's a small bag of wood pellets for brats now.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    We all know who will be getting wood pellets / coal for xmas now... ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Santa claus is buried in thomastown in co. kilkenny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭beanyb


    Santa is clearly real. He's always on the news on Christmas Eve getting ready to head off. RTE would never lie to us.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    ^ From the Dublin Airport website on flight arrivals between 11pm and 12 midnight.

    Origin Airline Flight Scheduled Time Status
    London-LHR Bmi BD135 24-12-2007 23:10
    Poznan Aer Lingus EI2365 24-12-2007 23:10
    Barcelona Aer Lingus EI565 24-12-2007 23:20
    Warsaw Aer Lingus EI2363 24-12-2007 23:25
    North Pole Unknown SANTA1 24-12-2007 23:59


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    MOOOOOMMMM! Timmywex said Santa's dead! :( Who's gonna bring my presents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Did you ever consider the possibility that Santa can slow down time?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    How do you think he pays for the presents ?
    He fakes his own death and cleans up on the insurance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    watch miricle on 34th street
    then you'll get your proof!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Santa possesses an ancient piece of technology known as a chronometron - using untold power, this pulls Santa and his reindeer almost completely out of the flow of time.

    evryone knows that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭bushy...


    faceman wrote: »
    ^ From the Dublin Airport website on flight arrivals between 11pm and 12 midnight.

    Origin Airline Flight Scheduled Time Status
    London-LHR Bmi BD135 24-12-2007 23:10
    Poznan Aer Lingus EI2365 24-12-2007 23:10
    Barcelona Aer Lingus EI565 24-12-2007 23:20
    Warsaw Aer Lingus EI2363 24-12-2007 23:25
    North Pole Unknown SANTA1 24-12-2007 23:59

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭dazberry


    It's a well know fact (rushes off to edit Wikipedia) that Santa trained Hiro Nakamura (Heroes) how to bend / jump backward and foward in time and teleport. QED.

    D.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Apparently, he died in 1564:
    Alarming evidence that Father Christmas died in 1564 has turned up in the records of a country church.

    While every child knows that this could not possibly be the real Santa Claus, nevertheless someone called Father Christmas was laid to rest in a churchyard in the village of Dedham, Essex, on May 30 that year.

    An entry in the parish record for that month states: "The 30[th] Day, Father Christmas was buried." Any headstone marking his grave disappeared many years ago

    Source: The Telegraph


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    Yeh well me and my sister saw santa putting presents in our stockings one Christmas eve so :P to you OP!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭utick


    SANTA was alive until i shot him 2 years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Doesn't the "slowing down time" thing only address part of the OP's argument- ie the time constraint bit.
    What about the other stuff. ;)

    And the "magic" argument is just lazy.
    Maybe somebody could counter each of the OPs points with plausible (pseudo-) science of their own.
    I'd give it a go but the cynic in me can't help siding with the OP on this one- sorry kids :p
    (Do kids even read AH?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭Mweelrea


    utick wrote: »
    SANTA was alive until i shot him 2 years ago

    if thats true how did i get my pressies last year?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    tech77 wrote: »
    Doesn't the "slowing down time" thing only address part of the OP's argument- ie the time constraint bit.
    What about the other stuff. ;)

    And the "magic" argument is just lazy.
    Maybe somebody could counter each of the OPs points with plausible (pseudo-) science of their own.
    I'd give it a go but the cynic in me can't help siding with the OP on this one- sorry kids :p
    (Do kids even read AH?)

    So, whenever you have kids, what are you going to tell em exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,972 ✭✭✭patrickc


    timmywex wrote: »
    Is There a Santa Claus? A Scientific Analysis
    1. No known species of reindeer can fly. However, there are 300,000 species of living organisms yet to be classified, and while most of these are insects and germs, this does not completely rule out flying reindeer which only Santa has seen.

    2. There are an estimated 2 billion children (persons under 18) in the world. But since Santa doesn’t – apparently – handle the Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist children, that reduces the workload to 15% of the total – a mere 378 million, according to the Population Census Bureau. At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that’s 91.8 million homes. One presumes there is at least one good child to each home.


    3. Santa has 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west, which seems logical. This works out to 822.6 visits per second. This is to say that for each ‘Christian’ household with good children, Santa has 1/1000th of a second to park, hop out of the sleigh, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left, get back up the chimney, get into the sleigh, and move on to the next house.

    Assuming that these 91,800,000 stops are evenly distributed around the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but which for purposes of our calculations we will accept), we are now talking about .76 miles per household, a total trip of 75,500,000 miles, not counting stops to do what most of us must do at least once every 31 hours. This means that Santa’s sled is moving at 650 miles per second, 3,000 times faster than the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second. A conventional reindeer can run, tops, 15 miles per hour.

    4. The payload on the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium-sized Lego set (2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying 321,300 tons, not counting Santa, who is invariably described as overweight. On land, conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting the ability of ‘flying reindeer’ (see point 1) to pull perhaps ten times the normal amount, we cannot do the job with eight or even nine. We need more. Actually, we need 214,191 more, or a total of 214,200 reindeer. This increases the payload – not counting the weight of the sleigh – to 353,420 tons. Again, for comparison, this is four times the weight of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth.

    5. This 353,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance, which will heat the reindeer up in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth’s atmosphere. The lead pair of reindeer will absorb 14,300,000,000,000,000,000 (14.3 quintillion) joules of energy. Per second. Each. In short, they will almost instantaneously burst into flames, exposing the reindeer behind them, who will repeat the process, and they will also create deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team will be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second. Santa, meanwhile, will be subjected to acceleration forces 17,500.06 times greater than gravity. A 250-pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of his sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force.

    In conclusion, if Santa ever did deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he’s dead now.

    ba humbug to you sh*thead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    Maybe, there are loads of Santas! This thread is evil.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭eggplantman


    did you no that santa was green until coke cola got their hands on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Haha.


    Finnair carries him around ;)

    http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1308015/L/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    I didn't know coke could do that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭eggplantman


    alan4cult wrote: »
    I didn't know coke could do that!
    well they did,up in till a while ago,santa was a 7ft tall man wearing leaves


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    did you no that santa was green until coke cola got their hands on him
    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/8/88/Cokechristmas.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    star-pants wrote: »
    Yeh well me and my sister saw santa putting presents in our stockings one Christmas eve so :P to you OP!!



    Ever see Santa empty his sack?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭Statso


    did you no that santa was green until coke cola got their hands on him

    Thats actually an urban myth, Santa had already appeared in other pictures dressed in all red before Coca Colas ad campaign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭Santa Claus


    Rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated !
    Mairt wrote: »
    Ever see Santa empty his sack?.

    OK, I'm not proud of that porn video I made but myself and Mrs Claus were on a break at the time.
    Personally I blame the naughty girls who were my co-stars...they forced me into it (and several things into me) !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭drdre


    beanyb wrote: »
    Santa is clearly real. He's always on the news on Christmas Eve getting ready to head off. RTE would never lie to us.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭toiletduck


    I just stumbled downstairs and heard him. But by the time I ran to the tree he had gone :( Oh well, next year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭eggplantman


    Statso wrote: »
    Thats actually an urban myth, Santa had already appeared in other pictures dressed in all red before Coca Colas ad campaign.
    can you back that up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,583 ✭✭✭alan4cult


    can you back that up?
    Sleighs don't have reverse gear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    alan4cult wrote: »
    Sleighs don't have reverse gear.

    Check and mate.


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