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Air Gun on Airplane (checked in)

  • 24-12-2007 12:56am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭


    Lads,

    Quick question if anyone could answer I'd be greatful. I got the bro an airgun as a Christmas Pressie. Am taking an Aer Lingus flight from UK to Ireland tomorrow and I don't know if I am allowed to check it in. They say:

    http://www.aerlingus.com/cgi-bin/obel01im1/Services/restricted_bag.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0649113172.1198457770@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccccaddmlhgjkkdcefecfigdffgdfkl.0&P_OID=-536879754&Category=3#all
    **Sport guns and ammunition cartridges will only be carried subject to the following:

    1. Ammunition is limited to 5kg per passenger and must be packed in containers of Wood, metal, or fireboard with the contents protected against any movement.
    2. Guns are to be dismantled.
    3. They will only be carried in the baggage hold of the aircraft.
    4. They must be packed separately from other baggage.
    5. They must be available for inspection by security.
    6. Ammunition on its own is limited to 5kg per passenger and must be packed in containers of wood, metal, or fireboard with the contents protected against any movement. It must be available for inspection.
    7. They will be subject to a max baggage allowance of 30k including arms and ammunition.
    8. All government and legal regulations must be complied with.
    9. All documentation and licenses are the passengers responsibility.
    10. Subject to an extra charge for the carriage of sports guns and ammunition.
    (see baggage information for carriage of sports equipment )

    But is an airgun a "sport gun"?

    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    do you know if its under 1 joule,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭CK.1


    Gatling wrote: »
    do you know if its under 1 joule,

    No idea, it's all wrapped up in Christmas paper!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    Best open her up, or tell us the model


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    just make sure that the mag is not inserted and the battery, they should be ok then., just that it'll look just like a real weapon on their scanning equip and you wouldnt want it to appear loaded.,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    firstly, airsoft and airguns are two entirely different things, this may sound pedantic to you, but there is a reason the distinction is made

    legally held airsoft equipment in the republic of ireland is not a firearm, shoots 6 or 8mm plastic bbs and does not require a licence

    an airgun is several times more powerful than any airsoft gun and shoots lead pointed rounds and most definitely requires a licence

    anyway, assuming what you have is infact an airsoft and not legally a firearm, then it's an odd situation, what you have may look like a firearm, but it's not so it's not subject to the same rules as live ammunition and real guns....

    From what i remember, Lemming did some research on airline policies regarding airsoft for traveling to events in the UK and Sweden, so he should have a more definitive answer

    Edit:
    actually, if someone can get a definite answer on this, let me know and ill add it to the stickies.

    Failing that, you can ring the airline themselves, but it could get very confusing trying to explain to them exactly what it is you have


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭CK.1


    Thanks for the replies lads, here is what I've got, what do you think?

    http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-1088-pellet-gun.shtml
    Includes 1088 pistol, 3 CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. cartridges, 4 clips, 3 paper targets, hard pistol case and a tin of 250 pellets. Shoot 8 shots...BBs or pellets...as fast as you can pull the trigger! The Crosman 1088 CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. pistol is versatile, because you can shoot whichever type of ammoSlang for ammunition: The entire set of materials needed to shoot a given gun. It might be a cartridge (in the case of a firearm) or just a pellet (in the case of an airgun). you have on hand! Pellets or BBs...this pistol likes both of them. Fill the clipSame as magazine: A device to hold pellets. There is no spring and the action has to manipulate the clip. with 8 pellets or BBs, and you're ready to rock and roll. The 12-gram CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. cartridgeA round of firearm ammunition consisting of a projectile, primer, gunpowder and a case to contain them. will deliver lots of shots before you need to change it.

    The frame is made of a durable synthetic, and the barrelThe tube through which projectiles travel when they are fired. It may be rifled or smooth. is rifledThe inside of a barrel containing a spiral pattern of high and low areas that grab the projectile and impart a spin to it as it passes through. The most common type of rifling is called lands (the higher areas) and grooves (the lower areas). steel. Texture on the ambidextrous grip gives you a firm grasp on the gun. It comes with open sights (windage-adjustable rear) and an accessory rail. The gun shoots either single- or double-action.

    Whether you shoot for fun or want to improve your target shooting skills, this pistol is up to it. Remember to get lots of extra ammoSlang for ammunition: The entire set of materials needed to shoot a given gun. It might be a cartridge (in the case of a firearm) or just a pellet (in the case of an airgun). and CO2The scientific notation for carbon dioxide. packs, 'cause you're gonna shoot a lot! Never shoot BBs at metal objects or targets!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭zero19


    It's not an airsoft marker i'm afraid...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    sorry friend that pistol is illegal over here ,it fires at 430fps the legal maxium limit 328 fps,i wouldnt bring it into ireland ,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭CK.1


    Thanks for the replies.

    Dammit anyway. So what are the consequences if I do bring it in? Slap on the wrists and confiscate it or something more serious? Are they likely to pick it up in my checked in luggage at the airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    Most definitely not an airsoft gun, that's an airgun which requires a licence to own and use in Ireland, that means Aer Lingus' rules regarding transporting firearms would apply.

    Gonna lock this thread now, but if you have any further questions about this, please post in the shooting forum.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kdouglas


    CK.1 wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies.

    Dammit anyway. So what are the consequences if I do bring it in? Slap on the wrists and confiscate it or something more serious? Are they likely to pick it up in my checked in luggage at the airport?

    You most definitely wont get an answer to that question either here or in the shooting forum, it's illegal, end of, you can be prosecuted under Irish law for importing an unlicensed firearm


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