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Attitude of Women to Young Blokes

  • 23-12-2007 5:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭


    This isn't a PI, because I honestly don't care about it, but I just wanted to know how widespead this is.

    I was out last Friday for a few drinks to celebrate the end of the working year with a couple of the lads from work who I get on with. After a few hours, were joined by some of their WAG'S and frinds of WAG'S. All was grand at first, I was introduced to them, got chatting to them, told a few jokes etc etc. Not long into the night, I let slipped that I was 21 years old, all of a sudden, I saw all these auld ones (well, the youngest in the group was 26 I think) make faces that just screamed 'That guy is some sort of lepper', and they just turned to each other and started laughing uncontrollably! They didn't say a word to me for the rest of the night (except for when I went up to the bar, then it was all 'can ya get 3 vodkas for me and the girls, ta love'!).

    Is this the way it is across the board for any chap in their late teens/early twentys?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    They sound a bit immature. It's not uncommon but it is silly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    Girls when they're 15/16 lie about their age by adding 5 years. When you get to 21/22 as a man you need to start doing the same. Friend of mine only the other night was in a taxi back to some burd's gaf (she was 30), he told her he was 23 and she had the same reaction you mention. She got out of the taxi at her house and told him to go home :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Maybe they were offended because you called them auld wans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Should have asked them how the menopause was working out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Obviously you don't deserve that username then. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Muff_Daddy wrote: »
    'can ya get 3 vodkas for me and the girls, ta love'!).

    You clearly missed out on a night of wit & sparkling conversation if that's anything to go by.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Muff_Daddy wrote: »
    This isn't a PI, because I honestly don't care about it, but I just wanted to know how widespead this is.

    I was out last Friday for a few drinks to celebrate the end of the working year with a couple of the lads from work who I get on with. After a few hours, were joined by some of their WAG'S and frinds of WAG'S. All was grand at first, I was introduced to them, got chatting to them, told a few jokes etc etc. Not long into the night, I let slipped that I was 21 years old, all of a sudden, I saw all these auld ones (well, the youngest in the group was 26 I think) make faces that just screamed 'That guy is some sort of lepper', and they just turned to each other and started laughing uncontrollably! They didn't say a word to me for the rest of the night (except for when I went up to the bar, then it was all 'can ya get 3 vodkas for me and the girls, ta love'!).

    Is this the way it is across the board for any chap in there late teens/early twentys?


    awwwwwww dont mind them their just fuddy duddies as i call them :D, i am 34 and the majority of times when i am out clubbing i would only sit wit early 20's have better fun,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Maybe they're immature bints.
    Maybe they wanted you to secks 'em up, but felt like cradlesnatchers after the discovery of your true age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Muff_Daddy


    rb_ie wrote: »
    Should have asked them how the menopause was working out.

    Would have made going back to work more interesting as well, if their husbands heard what I'd have said. :D
    Pigman II wrote: »
    You clearly missed out on a night of wit & sparkling conversation if that's anything to go by.

    I hear what you're saying, but I don't know if they were being themselves, or being condesending.
    shqipshume wrote: »
    awwwwwww dont mind them their just fuddy duddies as i call them , i am 34 and the majority of times when i am out clubbing i would only sit wit early 20's have better fun,

    Can I have your number?:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    I would have smashed a pint glass in 1 of their faces, then look at the other 2 "whos next to laugh?? ". Violence solves everything.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,956 ✭✭✭layke


    I've seen this loads, happened to me and other friends. It's like a dirty shameful thing for a girl to go out with a younger bloke. I think it must be psycological because most girls probably don't even notice they do it.

    Ah well lesson learned. Just lie about your age from now on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    Can I have your number?:D[/quote]
    awwwwwww depends on how much sex appeal u got going on :p
    I would have smashed a pint glass in 1 of their faces, then look at the other 2 "whos next to laugh?? ". Violence solves everything.

    wow i know u dont i lol, what u doing over here lol :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Muff_Daddy wrote: »
    I hear what you're saying, but I don't know if they were being themselves, or being condesending.
    Being themselves or being condesending. Neither option is very attractive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,613 ✭✭✭✭Clare Bear


    You just met a few muppets by the sounds of it, lucky escape.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭shqipshume


    layke wrote: »
    I've seen this loads, happened to me and other friends. It's like a dirty shameful thing for a girl to go out with a younger bloke. I think it must be psycological because most girls probably don't even notice they do it.

    Ah well lesson learned. Just lie about your age from now on.

    nah its the sitgma attached 2 it, a woman isnt allowed 2 have a bf who is younger but men are allowed 2 have women 20 years 30 years younger,
    my bf is 25 and we get on great he gives me all i need and i him :o, its not bout the age its bout the mentality and if older women have that attitude i shouldnt be wit younger guy then dont bother wit that one, ;) i get when i say he is 25, ur little toyboy :eek: :mad: stupid mentality as women are at their peek in their thirties and fourties


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Skellington


    Have gotten this kinda thing loads of times. I'm 23 but usually say I'm 27 whenever I think age will be a factor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭juuge


    Italian women are like that, they are beautiful up to about 21 then they get hairy arms and begin to grow moustaches. There’s no pleasin’ them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Leon11


    best thing to do is just turn around and tell them that they're too old for you. ie make a scene and say it really loudly.

    My mate (21) did this in a bar when a 28yr old was coming on to him. She was not happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Should have asked them whether they're taking advantage of free travel and all those other perks you get on retirement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Muff_Daddy wrote: »
    I saw all these auld ones (well, the youngest in the group was 26 I think)
    Please don't call them that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭FruitLover


    Dudess wrote: »
    Please don't call them that.

    Sore spot, eh?

    Don't worry love, there's always botox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Nah, just pointing out that if the youngest was 76, yes they would be "auld ones". Not every age over 25 is "old".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    Dudess wrote: »
    Nah, just pointing out that if the youngest was 76, yes they would be "auld ones". Not every age over 25 is "old".

    Get over yourself.

    To the OP - these girls (not women obviously) sound like idiots. Lucky escape. Any decent older man is likely to see right through their superficial crap as well if it's any consolation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Dudess wrote: »
    Nah, just pointing out that if the youngest was 76, yes they would be "auld ones". Not every age over 25 is "old".

    Dudess you're an auld one right now and you'll be an auld one when you're 76 but in both cases you'll still be hawt hawt hawt so don't take it so bad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Why "get over" myself? I don't like the way people, women especially, who are in their bloody twenties, get referred to as "old" - just because the 21-year-old OP has no perspective on age doesn't give him the right to call girls aged 26 and upwards "auld ones". They do of course seem like idiots but that's not what I was referring to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Leon11 wrote: »
    best thing to do is just turn around and tell them that they're too old for you. ie make a scene and say it really loudly.

    My mate (21) did this in a bar when a 28yr old was coming on to him. She was not happy.
    Wow, what the hell is wrong with him?!

    Heh, seems like we've stumbled upon an insecurity in our new mod...heh heh heh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Dudess wrote: »
    Why "get over" myself? I don't like the way people, women especially, who are in their bloody twenties, get referred to as "old" - just because the 21-year-old OP has no perspective on age doesn't give him the right to call girls aged 26 and upwards "auld ones". They do of course seem like idiots but that's not what I was referring to.

    They were old relative to the Op, which curiously enough is the context he mentioned them in. I'm 24, I regard women in their 30s as old and I have every right to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,058 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    They are just jealous their life is over and all they have look forward to are disseases and a painful death


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    humbert, why do you regard women in their 30s as old? Have they white hair? Are they stooped? Do they require the aid of walking sticks/zimmerframes? Are they really, really wrinkly and frail? Would you get up and offer your seat to one of them if they got on the bus? Would you help them cross the road or offer to carry their shopping? Are they pensioners? Do they have bus passes?
    Isn't all of the above what constitutes "old"?

    Women in their 30s are considerably olDER than you, not old. And you have every right to say what you like in that regard, but you're wrong.

    And why WOMEN in their 30s? Would you consider men in their 30s to be old?

    Oh, and if a woman in her 30s died, I presume you wouldn't consider it very sad because she'd reached a grand old age.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Uh ohhhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭metaoblivia


    I'm a 26 year old woman, and I get hit on a lot by younger men. I don't mind it. Rather, I see it as a compliment. I've dated guys up to 5 years younger than me. The past two guys I dated were 22/23. Sometimes maturity and experience do factor in, but guys can be immature at any age, as can women. The most immature man I ever dated was older than me, so there ya go.
    I'd say brush it off and move on, OP. There are plenty of us auld women who don't mind shacking up with a sexy young bloke. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Dudess wrote: »
    humbert, why do you regard women in their 30s as old? Have they white hair? Are they stooped? Do they require the aid of walking sticks/zimmerframes? Are they really, really wrinkly and frail? Would you get up and offer your seat to one of them if they got on the bus? Would you help them cross the road or offer to carry their shopping?
    Isn't all of the above what constitutes "old"?

    Women in their 30s are considerably olDER than you, not old. And you have every right to say what you like in that regard, but you're wrong.

    And why WOMEN in their 30s? Would you consider men in their 30s to be old?

    This is ridiculous. They are at a different stage in life and have a different perspective on life(in general) to me. This is a more significant difference to me in the context of social gatherings or dating than the frailties you mentioned. It doesn't bother me if you don't consider 30 year olds old but to think you have any right to judge what other people consider to be old is risible. I'm not going to argue about this any more because it's absurd and has feck all to do with the thread topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    humbert wrote: »
    This is ridiculous. They are at a different stage in life and have a different perspective on life(in general) to me.
    Absolutely. You may consider them too old for you to go out with or whatever and that's totally understandable, but it does not mean that "old" is an accurate description of them.
    to think you have any right to judge what other people consider to be old is risible.
    So my pointing out that it's wrong (and ageist) to refer to women in their 30s as old is really bothering you? THAT is ridiculous. There is only one type of person for whom the term "old" is accurate, and that is an elderly person.

    Sorry for ranting but ever since I turned 20 (yes, 20) I've been hearing other people my age saying "I'm getting old" or "I'm old". I've never understood it for the life of me. I know they mean they're getting freaked out about getting older and facing up to life's realities, and they're kinda sad that they're not 18 any more, but since when has this meant getting old? People just don't seem to have any perspective on age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Muff_Daddy


    Dudess, I just said they were "auld ones" in jest, and in the context of them being older than me. I didn't mean to cause any offence, and I apologise if I have done so. I obviously don't think there grannys or anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    Laslo wrote: »
    Get over yourself.

    That's no way to speak to your elders.




    Incidently, I don't spotty little teenagers hitting on me. It kinda creeps me out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Dudess wrote: »
    Absolutely. You may consider them too old for you to go out with or whatever and that's totally understandable, but it does not mean that "old" is an accurate description of them.

    It is for me in that context.
    Dudess wrote: »
    So my pointing out that it's wrong (and ageist) to refer to women in their 30s as old is really bothering you? THAT is ridiculous. There is only one type of person for whom the term "old" is accurate, and that is an elderly person.

    It's not wrong or ageist for me to consider a 30 year old old, it would be ageist for me to unfairly discriminate against them due to their age.

    As you say yourself, this in a personal issue of yours, there's a forum for that sort of thing. Using words like ageist does nothing to add credibility to your argument.

    P.S. Yes I said I wasn't going to argue but this sort of over sensitive crap makes my head hurt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 831 ✭✭✭Laslo


    Dudess wrote: »
    Why "get over" myself?

    So that the thread doesn't go off-topic and degenerate into an ego-led bitching fest over some triviality. Whoops. Too late. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Muff_Daddy wrote: »
    Dudess, I just said they were "auld ones" in jest, and in the context of them being older than me. I didn't mean to cause any offence, and I apologise if I have done so. I obviously don't think there grannys or anything.
    Ah I'm sorry too. Should have spotted you were using the term in jest. :)

    Humbert, I guess some people attach many meanings to "old" when it comes to describing people, I attach one meaning - elderly. It's illogical and lacking in perspective to use it to refer to anyone else.

    But this issue doesn't bother me to the point where I'd need to start a thread in Personal Issues, it's just a minor quibble of mine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    It depends on the context imo. A 25 year old in a 1st year class of 18 year olds is an "auld one" in comparison, given the context, but if it were a 25 year old in a class of 25 year olds, with a 40 year old in the class, the 40 year old would obviously be an "auld one" given the average age and level of maturity.

    No need to go getting so wound up Dudess, just keep hanging around people your own age and you'll be absolutely fine :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    OP you met some fools, just ignore people like that :)



    PS Dudess http://www.olay.com/indexhb.jsp :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Venom wrote: »
    OP you met some fools, just ignore people like that :)



    PS Dudess http://www.olay.com/indexhb.jsp :D
    Nice :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    rb_ie wrote: »
    It depends on the context imo. A 25 year old in a 1st year class of 18 year olds is an "auld one" in comparison, given the context, but if it were a 25 year old in a class of 25 year olds, with a 40 year old in the class, the 40 year old would obviously be an "auld one" given the average age and level of maturity.
    Oh I agree 100% with the whole context thing. It's just the use of the word "old" to describe someone who isn't old - I don't get it.
    Ah I'm not feeling well after three successive nights drinking and it's making me narky - don't mind me.

    (I am turning into Terry).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh I agree 100% with the whole context thing. It's just the use of the word "old" to describe someone who isn't old - I don't get it.
    Ah I'm not feeling well after three successive nights drinking and it's making me narky - don't mind me.

    (I am turning into Terry).

    It's an insult and applicable because they appeared to be uptight, gossiping biddies. Can we move on?
    What age is Terry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭BrandonBlock


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh I agree 100% with the whole context thing. It's just the use of the word "old" to describe someone who isn't old - I don't get it.
    Ah I'm not feeling well after three successive nights drinking and it's making me narky - don't mind me.

    (I am turning into Terry).

    What the hell gives you the right to enforce what other people perceive 'old' as? My 4 year old niece thinks I am 'old'. I am 22 so relative to her, yes I am old. From the posts you have made, the only thing you have achieved is plainly revealing your own insecurity with the issue - nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    Dudess wrote: »
    Oh I agree 100% with the whole context thing. It's just the use of the word "old" to describe someone who isn't old - I don't get it.
    Ah I'm not feeling well after three successive nights drinking and it's making me narky - don't mind me.

    (I am turning into Terry).

    Everyone is old. From age 1 to 100 everyone is old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Agreed. OP, they were obnoxious bints, but not all females of that age are so condescending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Dudess wrote: »
    Agreed. OP, they were obnoxious bints, but not all females of that age are so condescending.

    How dare you brand them as obnoxious bints, you've never even met them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    What the hell gives you the right to enforce what other people perceive 'old' as?
    All I'm saying is that "old" can only mean one thing when describing people - elderly.
    My 4 year old niece thinks I am 'old'. I am 22 so relative to her, yes I am old.
    Of course, because she's 4. I'm not talking about who small kids describe as old.
    From the posts you have made, the only thing you have achieved is plainly revealing your own insecurity with the issue - nothing else.
    See I haven't - that's the point. I've never given a **** about my age, never let it define me. I can't understand therefore why so many people do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,396 ✭✭✭✭Karoma


    nesf wrote: »
    How dare you brand them as obnoxious bints, you've never even met them!

    As an obnoxious bint, I take offense!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    I thought the legs opened wider with age? Or is it a gradual thing? Like at 35 they notice the clock ticking away and grab hold of everyone?


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