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G6 stay defiant vs FAI

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Stekelly wrote: »
    This has been done to death , but theres no obligation to do anything other than what you want. I want to support Liverpool, end of.


    Answer me this, why is Ireland the only country in Europe and one of the very few in the world that has people following a foreign team before a local team?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Answer me this, why is Ireland the only country in Europe and one of the very few in the world that has people following a foreign team before a local team?

    Iv'e seen and met plaenty of Scandanavians at Anfield over the years. Thers also a good few Spaniards showing up in the last few years.

    Ive bought a couple of Liverpool jersies in Germany over the years too. I doubt they had them in stock waiting for some Irish people to come along.

    A top quality league within spitting distance when you dont have a decent one yourself wil always draw support.

    My dad playing in the LOI and doesnt support it.

    Finally , heres the kicker, why do you care what other people do? look after and worry about yourself ad dont be concernign yourself with other peoples business. Do you really want astadium full of peopl ethat are just their because they've been guilted into going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    This has been done to death , but theres no obligation to do anything other than what you want. I want to support Liverpool, end of.

    what i cant get my head round tho, is how anyone with an honest interest in football can have no interest in their own national league

    to be perfectly honest i DO think that this all ireland league will change this with setanta/sky money and presentation

    i have countless mates who claim the eL to be rubbish without having even so much as watched a game on telly, and theyll admit to that on the basis of "sure if it was any use itd be on sky", and i honestly believe that if it WAS on sky youd have 10 times the interest within 12 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Iv'e seen and met plaenty of Scandanavians at Anfield over the years. Thers also a good few Spaniards showing up in the last few years.

    Ive bought a couple of Liverpool jersies in Germany over the years too. I doubt they had them in stock waiting for some Irish people to come along.


    Go look at the Scandanavians clubs attendences they don't seem to be suffering, actually they have some very good clubs over there.

    Go look at the German league too attendences aren't within a mile as small as the LoI attendences.


    Not sure if you watched Ross Kemp on Polish hooligans, but during the progamme he went to a Polish 3rd Divison game and there was nearly 3,000 fans at the match, I could bet you any team in the LoI (Premier or 1st Divison) would beat either team that played that day. Can you tell me whats the difference in Polish fans and Irish fans?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Iv'e seen and met plaenty of Scandanavians at Anfield over the years. Thers also a good few Spaniards showing up in the last few years.

    Ive bought a couple of Liverpool jersies in Germany over the years too. I doubt they had them in stock waiting for some Irish people to come along.

    you can bet your bottom dollar they all support teams in their national league tho


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Go look at the Scandanavians clubs attendences they don't seem to be suffering, actually they have some very good clubs over there.

    Go look at the German league too attendences aren't within a mile as small as the LoI attendences.

    They are being offered this at home:

    Stekelly wrote: »
    Give the people a decent standard in decent staiums and European football and they will start turning up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Helix wrote: »
    you can bet your bottom dollar they all support teams in their national league tho

    They cant be too commited to their own leagues if they are spending their weekends flyign to England for matches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    A top quality league within spitting distance when you dont have a decent one yourself wil always draw support

    a bit more support from people would see us with a decent quality league you DONT have to fly to to watch tho

    im well aware that its catch 22, but it honestly does baffle me why more people dont give the eL a chance, yet theyll sit down and watch fulham v birmingham from the EPL followed by ipswich v blackpool in the championship aer a saturday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Helix wrote: »
    what i cant get my head round tho, is how anyone with an honest interest in football can have no interest in their own national league

    to be perfectly honest i DO think that this all ireland league will change this with setanta/sky money and presentation

    i have countless mates who claim the eL to be rubbish without having even so much as watched a game on telly, and theyll admit to that on the basis of "sure if it was any use itd be on sky", and i honestly believe that if it WAS on sky youd have 10 times the interest within 12 months


    Spot on mate, spot on. But honestly the day English people come to watch Irish clubs playing every week, or the day stadiums become all seater no standing allow, etc... will be the day I stop supporting the LoI if that day ever comes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    They cant be too commited to their own leagues if they are spending their weekends flyign to England for matches.

    why do you think that? do you know that they go every single weekend or something?

    i go to gigs all over europe, does it mean i wont support a band if theyre playing here? by your logic it does


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Stekelly wrote: »
    They cant be too commited to their own leagues if they are spending their weekends flyign to England for matches.

    Thats probably a few hundred people, maybe a thousand. Have you ever seen bars full of people in Scandanavia wearing Liverpool, Man Utd, etc... jersies and tracksuit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Seriously, as I've said, why do you get so worked up tryign to convince people who dont want to go to EL football to go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭Unearthly


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    Even at Christmas time, people argue over stupid stuff :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,985 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Seriously, as I've said, why do you get so worked up tryign to convince people who dont want to go to EL football to go?


    The number of teams ceasing to exist because of lacks of money thats what.:rolleyes:


    Any chance you can answer my previous question?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    psi wrote: »
    I think thats another problem with the eL. Fans want a better league, they want more interest from Irish people, but they want the better league their way and the want Irish people to be interested in their league.

    I don't want to watch old pros living off past glories.

    i want a league that can live off itself.

    Its not us and them either which is how you seem to approach every EL debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Seriously, as I've said, why do you get so worked up tryign to convince people who dont want to go to EL football to go?

    i dont thin anyones trying to convince you of anything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    The number of teams ceasing to exist because of lacks of money thats what.:rolleyes:

    thats another side of it

    i dont think these people realise that without a national league the republic of ireland footie team dont fulfil fifas criteria to play in fifa/uefa sanctioned matches and tournaments

    so no league in ireland means no national team


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,552 ✭✭✭✭GuanYin


    I don't want to watch old pros living off past glories.

    i want a league that can live off itself.

    Its not us and them either which is how you seem to approach every EL debate.

    Us and them? eL fans and non eL fans?

    I'm not saying that the league sould be based on past-it players for all time, I'm saying that attracting some big name players here instead of to the championship would be something that would probably get bums on seats in the eL.

    The championship teams know it and they use that approach, hell the MLS teams know it with Beckham et al. There has been more interest in MLS since Beckham, Angel et al arrived than ever before. Same could hapen here, build a league with interest and then reap the profits to let it develop on its own merits.

    You can make something out of nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭dor83


    I think that bringing in old pros could be the best approach they could take, even though its not the ideal option. It will bring a few more people to the grounds and sell more jerseys, which would still leave the money for bringing through promising young players. As psi said thats why Beckham was brought to the US, the money and interset he brings in pays his wages and then some, and he doesnt even have to play very often. It is simple marketing and if done correctly could bring a lot of money to he Irish leagues. If joining the leagues brings more money to the clubs then why not do it, thats the only way they can develope the league because the current set up just isnt working and imo the standard is not improving as much as it should be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    old pros is definitely the short term solution imo, itll get people going to games and itll also give kids the seasoned pros to learn from. do that for a few seasons and youll find theres a hell of a lot more people going to games here

    im not talking 36 year old former top flighters, but guys in their early 30s

    as said its not ideal, but its the best solution as of this moment


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Happy Christmas :D:D:D:D:D


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