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UEFA Draw

  • 20-12-2007 11:36PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭


    The draw for the knockouts is tomorrow at 11am Irish time.

    Champions League
    [B]Pot A[/B]                            [B]Pot B[/B]
    FC Porto                         Liverpool
    Chelsea                          Schalke 04
    Real Madrid                      Olímpiakos
    AC Milan                         Celtic
    FC Barcelona                     Olympique Lyon
    Manchester United                AS Roma
    Internazionale                   Fenerbahçe
    Sevilla                          Arsenal
    

    UEFA Cup
    [B]Pot A[/B]                v           [B]Pot D[/B]
    Everton                          Zenit St. Petersburg
    Atlético Madrid                  Aberdeen
    Villarreal                       AEK Athens
    Hamburger SV                     SK Brann Bergen
    Bayer Leverkusen                 FC Zürich
    Bayern München                   Bolton Wanderers
    Getafe                           Anderlecht  
    Girondins Bordeaux               Galatasaray 
    
    [b]Pot B[/b]                v           [b]Pot C[/b]
    FC Nürnberg                      Olympique Marseille
    Panathinaikos                    Rosenborg BK
    Fiorentina                       Werder Bremen
    FC Basel                         Benfica
    Spartak Moscow                   Rangers
    Sporting Braga                   Sporting CP Lisbon
    Tottenham Hotspur                PSV Eindhoven
    Helsingborg IF                   Slavia Praha
    

    Celtic most likely to draw Man Utd. Odds from Coral:
    Man United 7/2
    Chelsea 4/1
    Inter Milan 5/1
    Porto 6/1
    Sevilla 6/1
    Barcelona 13/2
    Real Madrid 13/2

    I have a feeling it'll be Chelsea but hopefully Real.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,803 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Celtic most likely to draw Man Utd.

    errr...what? do people actually bet on this stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Unless they are saying it's rigged, how do they figure Celtic have any more of a chance of drawing Utd in a random draw than anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Of course it is rigged to an extent. It is not a random draw as countries from the same association cannot be drawn against each other


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,454 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    errr...what? do people actually bet on this stuff?

    People bet on anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Unless they are saying it's rigged, how do they figure Celtic have any more of a chance of drawing Utd in a random draw than anyone else?

    Eirebhoy posted something the other day were some guy had worked out the statistical possibilities of who celtic could get.
    Pretty amazing really.

    Theres a couple of teams in Rangers pot id like to avoid, Helsingborgs being one...because we all know what would happen there!
    Would like spurs though, would be a good atmosphere for that one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    People bet on anything



    I bet you they don't :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Unless they are saying it's rigged, how do they figure Celtic have any more of a chance of drawing Utd in a random draw than anyone else?
    Man Utd/Chelsea can only draw one of 5 teams. Inter can draw one of 6 so have less chance of drawing Celtic. Seville/Real/Barca can draw one of 7 so have even less chance.

    The above means that Celtic are more likely to draw Chelsea or Man Utd than one of the Spanish or Italian teams (feck the rest for this example). The reason Man Utd are sole favourites is down to a domino effect.

    Roma can draw 1 of 5 but not Man Utd. Schalke can draw 1 of 7 but not Chelsea. Therefore Chelsea have more chance of drawing Roma than Man Utd have of drawing Schalke.

    It goes on and on and there's thousands of different combinations. Some Celtic fan used a program to work out the odds:
    Our chances of drawing each team worked out to be:

    Man Utd 19.7%
    Chelsea 18.8%
    Inter Milan 13.4%
    Porto 12.5%
    Sevilla 12.5%
    Real Madrid 11.5%
    Barcelona 11.5%
    AC Milan 0%

    And if you want to know, the value bet in those Coral odds is Chelsea. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    there's such a gulf in class between Pot A and B of the CL...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,099 ✭✭✭✭WhiteWashMan


    If you added Pool and Arsenal to pot A and removed Porto, Id agree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    yeah of course, I was just generalising...good ol' pedantry is alive and well on boards! But yeah, gulf (minus Arsenal and Pool :) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,803 ✭✭✭✭Paul Tergat


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Man Utd/Chelsea can only draw one of 5 teams. Inter can draw one of 6 so have less chance of drawing Celtic. Seville/Real/Barca can draw one of 7 so have even less chance.

    The above means that Celtic are more likely to draw Chelsea or Man Utd than one of the Spanish or Italian teams (feck the rest for this example). The reason Man Utd are sole favourites is down to a domino effect.

    Roma can draw 1 of 5 but not Man Utd. Schalke can draw 1 of 7 but not Chelsea. Therefore Chelsea have more chance of drawing Roma than Man Utd have of drawing Schalke.

    It goes on and on and there's thousands of different combinations. Some Celtic fan used a program to work out the odds:



    And if you want to know, the value bet in those Coral odds is Chelsea. :)

    Thats absolutely class!

    can u get access to this program? i'td be a great way of showing off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    The draw for the knockouts is tomorrow at 11am Irish time.

    The draw for the last 16 of the UEFA cup as well as the last 32 both take place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Bluetonic wrote: »
    The draw for the last 16 of the UEFA cup as well as the last 32 both take place.

    Does the last 8 draw for the CL take place as well? I can't remember from last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    Does the last 8 draw for the CL take place as well? I can't remember from last season.

    Thats a separate draw after this round has been played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 729 ✭✭✭justfortherecor


    p_larkin99 wrote: »
    Thats absolutely class!

    can u get access to this program? i'td be a great way of showing off!

    Mathematica perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭oobydooby


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    Man Utd/Chelsea can only draw one of 5 teams. Inter can draw one of 6 so have less chance of drawing Celtic. Seville/Real/Barca can draw one of 7 so have even less chance.

    The above means that Celtic are more likely to draw Chelsea or Man Utd than one of the Spanish or Italian teams (feck the rest for this example). The reason Man Utd are sole favourites is down to a domino effect.

    Roma can draw 1 of 5 but not Man Utd. Schalke can draw 1 of 7 but not Chelsea. Therefore Chelsea have more chance of drawing Roma than Man Utd have of drawing Schalke.

    It goes on and on and there's thousands of different combinations. Some Celtic fan used a program to work out the odds:



    And if you want to know, the value bet in those Coral odds is Chelsea. :)

    That's very clever and interesting too. Wish our maths teacher had shown us stuff like that. Any odds it'll be the Liverpool and Arsenal games shown on RTE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    watching it on uefa.com now over video feed. They're just explaining the procedure now, the actual draw itself looks like will be pretty soon

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    celtic draw...Barca!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    God this is a load of old Balls

    Celtic- barca!

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Lyon V....Man U.

    nice draw for utd

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Utd should happy enough

    Liverpool will play Inter

    Mike.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 124 ✭✭FRM


    Bye bye Celtic :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Schalke V...Porto

    Great chance for porto to push on to next round

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Liverpool....(fingers crossed!!!)
    V

    Inter Milan! Tough!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Roma V Madrid

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Arsenal - AC Milan

    Mike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Arsenal Vs Milan as only possible option left.

    Should be a great game.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Olymp1acos V Chelsea

    Easy easy draw

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,404 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Seville V Fenerbache, easy enough draw as well.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Chelsea - ******kos should be okay for the Chavs.

    Mike.


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