mid week cup ties

redfan

http://www.paddypower.com/bet?action=GoCoupons&category=SOCCER&disp_cat_id=&ev_class_id=49&id=487


i fancy liverpool to beat chelsea
and arsenal also.
ten euro bet is 80 odd euro .

mike65

I don't! Rafa may well play an A- team with Pompey calling this Saturday.

Mike.

jameshayes

i'd go for over 1.5 goals on liverpool&chelsea and over 2.5 goals on Arsenal

bet is not available on PP but i'm sure it is elsewhere

Ace2007

wat u guys reckon?

Blackburn v Arsenal
Carling Cup Matches, Tuesday 18th December 2007, 20:00
Arsenal to win the match
10 or less corners
Card Index:Up to and Including 35 points @ 10 - 1

or

Blackburn v Arsenal
Carling Cup Matches, Tuesday 18th December 2007, 20:00
Arsenal to win the match
10 or less corners
Card Index:Up to and Including 35 points @ 12 - 1

IrishMike

Went for spurs and city to be over 1.5 goals @ 3-10
Nothing else really appealed to me.

Ace why is that exact same bet @10-1 and 12-1?

jameshayes

Ace2007 wrote: »

wat u guys reckon?

Blackburn v Arsenal
Carling Cup Matches, Tuesday 18th December 2007, 20:00
Arsenal to win the match
10 or less corners
Card Index:Up to and Including 35 points @ 10 - 1

or

Blackburn v Arsenal
Carling Cup Matches, Tuesday 18th December 2007, 20:00
Arsenal to win the match
10 or less corners
Card Index:Up to and Including 35 points @ 12 - 1

There will be more than 10 corners - both teams tactics will be 'run to the corners-and get the ball into the box'

mike65

There should be lots of everything, its the way Carling cup games tend to be - cards, corners, goals.

Mike.

jameshayes

i have blackburn and man city to win @ 6-1 on PP

ErinGoBrath

jameshayes wrote: »

both teams tactics will be 'run to the corners-and get the ball into the box'

I'd say there will be more than 10 corners however Arsenal play through the middle and rarely attack the box from anywhere near the byline.

Think I'll do over 2.5 goals for the arsenal match and maybe 9pts or more in the cards index.

jameshayes

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

I'd say there will be more than 10 corners however Arsenal play through the middle and rarely attack the box from anywhere near the byline.

Think I'll do over 2.5 goals for the arsenal match and maybe 9pts or more in the cards index.

I like your add for the forum in your sig! just watch out for the sigpo-lice!

ErinGoBrath

EDIT: Misread last post!

redfan

guns all the way . i have me gaf on it .:D

Keano

I am thinking of going for

B Munich half time/full time 1.81

mike65

BM are so bad at the moment I'd stay away from that one. That said they have to win that match to be sure of progressing.

I'm being brave - 100 on double of over 1.5 goals.

Mike.

Keano

What a bad day I am having... I thought the Bayern match was on today! Oh well time to back City

IrishMike

Spurs 1-0 after 5 mins
My bet of over 1.5 is looking good considering spurs defensive record and citys home scoring record

Keano

I got City @ 5.2 - spurs down to 10 as well.

mike65

Arsenal 2 up so half my bet is safe.

Mike.

Ace2007

IrishMike wrote: »

Went for spurs and city to be over 1.5 goals @ 3-10
Nothing else really appealed to me.

Ace why is that exact same bet @10-1 and 12-1?

sorry the 12/1 was if the card index was 55+ sorry about that

arsenal 2-0 up now - all we need are a couple of dirty challenges....

Keano

I backed Blackburn when they got one back! Why oh why did I not do the draw!!

mike65

Happy happy happy!

Mike.

Bubs101

Saw this on Betfair forums, looks very promising and the guy who posted it is Greek

I cannot believe the value given for Panionios' win

1.65 is FREE MONEY!!!

Panionios needs a win to qualify
Bordeaux has already secured first place and ......listen to this......

THE HAVE TRAVELLED TO ATHENS WITH ONLY 15 PALYERS, NONE OF THEM PLAYED AT THE LAST FRENCH LEAGUE GAME AGAINST MARSEIG

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! YOU HEARD IT FIRST FROM

Ace2007

so what u guys reckon do this accumulator - 4/1


1 Reggina v Inter Milan
Coppa Italia Matches, Wednesday 19th December 2007, 19:30
Inter Milan @ 8 - 15



2 Bayern Munich v Aris
UEFA Cup Matches, Wednesday 19th December 2007, 19:45
Bayern Munich @ 2 - 9



3 Panionios v Bordeaux
UEFA Cup Matches, Wednesday 19th December 2007, 19:45
Panionios @ 8 - 13



4 Real Union v Valencia
Spanish Cup Matches, Wednesday 19th December 2007, 20:30
Valencia @ 8 - 15


Can anyone tell me what are real union any good? and would valencia be playing a full team or what...

Both Bayern and Panionios have to win to go through and both are at home, while inter in top and the other team have lost last 2 matches are are 2nd last in the league. its just the valencia game that i reckon could be iffy...

Ace2007

Inter Milan 8/15
Bayern Munich 2/7
Galatasaray 1/4
Braga 1/3
Roma EVS

works out at about 13/2

IrishMike

Bayern Munich v Aris
19th of December 2007 7:45pm
Win-Draw-Win
Bayern Munich @ 2 - 9
Sporting Braga v Crvena Zvezda
19th of December 2007 7:45pm
Win-Draw-Win
Sporting Braga @ 3 - 10
Toulouse v Spartak Moscow
19th of December 2007 7:45pm
Double Chance
Spartak Moscow And Draw @ 1 - 2
Panionios v Bordeaux
19th of December 2007 7:45pm
Double Chance
Bordeaux And Draw @ 11 - 10

€5 @ 5-1

Thats my accumulator
Avoiding Carling cup as i actually want to watch the games

IrishMike

This is one of the biggest games in the history of Panionios and they hope they can make it to the next stage against an indifferent and already qualified opponent.


PANIONIOS

Panionios broke a 28 year lasting tradition when they beat Panathinaikos 1-0 at their home ground during the weekend. The morale in the team is as high as it can get and really strong home support is expected tonight. For Panionios only victory will 100% secure qualification. Coach Ewald Lienen won yesterday the Best Manager award for 2007 from the Greek Footballers Union, as a recognition to the excellent work he is putting through in the squad.

There are no significant injuries or suspensions for Panionios and they will fight fiercely to kick out Galatasaray, having an addidional motive as the turkish side captured a totally undeserved and much helped from the referee win at Athens.

BORDEAUX

Bordeaux are one of the 4 sides with a perfect until now record in the group stage of the uefa cup and have already secured the top spot of the group. On Sunday night they fought back from 0-2 down at home against Marseille to get a 2-2 draw.

Bordeaux coach Laurent Blanc stated that this game is a good chance for him to rest players that are tired by consecutive games. Unfortunately i can't name the players that will not feature today.


VERDICT

Everything here points to a Panionios win : Bordeaux will not field main squad, they have no key players missing and Greece is always a hard place to get results. Plus Panionios have a good squad. Maybe they haven't yet performed at their best in domestic competition (i rate them as a top 5 club this season) but this is one of the most important matches in the history of the club.<br />

However, for prices of 1.6 that are available, i won't go crazy on that bet as there is always a chance that in such games where the reserves play for the bigger team a new star suddenly rises. Also, patient as Panionios will be, if the goal is not coming, stress may overwhelm the squad and the game is stuck on 0-0. Maybe this home win is a good pick to combine with another similar bet today to create a strong home win double.

Panionios@1.6+, normal stakes

Got that from goonersguide.
Might have been a little hastly in my backing of bordeaux not to lose.

jameshayes

IrishMike wrote: »

Got that from goonersguide.
Might have been a little hastly in my backing of bordeaux not to lose.

1.63 at the mo on betfair - was 1.69 earlier...

ErinGoBrath

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

Think I'll do over 2.5 goals for the arsenal match and maybe 9pts or more in the cards index.

:cool:

It's been a very good month for me so far!

redfan

would you guys think inter milan will put out a 1st team?

jameshayes

I just put a fair few quid on Chelski -v- pool on more than 1.5 goals. I think that was the worst mistake I have made in a long long time - i dont know why i done it.

mike65

Not so stupid I think, Liverpool cup ties tend to be goal-fests if not always for the right reasons.

Mike.

jameshayes

redfan wrote: »

would you guys think inter milan will put out a 1st team?

They have a derby on sunday with AC so probably not the strongest team out.

jameshayes

redfan wrote: »

would you guys think inter milan will put out a 1st team?

http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=28223&L=en wrote:

Goalkeepers: 22 Paolo Orlandoni, 71 Enrico Alfonso.

Defenders: 16 Nicolas Burdisso, 23 Marco Materazzi, 24 Nelson Rivas, 25 Walter Samuel, 35 Dennis Esposito, 40 Ivan Fatic, 47 Marco Filippini.

Midfielders: 21 Santiago Solari, 30 Pelé, 31 Cesar, 37 Gabriele Puccio, 42 Ibrahim Maaroufi, 43 Daniele Pedrelli.

Strikers: 18 Hernan Crespo, 45 Mario Balotelli, 46 Aiman Napoli, 48 Alberto Gerbo.

I think he will be keen not to conceed in the first leg and possibly get 1 or 2 goals at the same time. I'd imagine Crespo will come on around the 60th as impact

redfan

whats the odd on 1.5 goals?

jameshayes

mike65 wrote: »

Not so stupid I think, Liverpool cup ties tend to be goal-fests if not always for the right reasons.

Mike.

Well i hope so. I didn't even get great odds. And what makes it worse i'm not gonna get to see it fecking christmas party - thank god for wap.livescore.com !!

jameshayes

redfan wrote: »

whats the odd on 1.5 goals?

i think i got about 1.5

redfan

great odds where did u get that pp?
...

mike65

Ace2007 wrote: »

Can anyone tell me what are real union any good? and would valencia be playing a full team or what...

its just the valencia game that i reckon could be iffy...

You are right, they are in poor shape (3 losses and a draw) and have a big game away to Real Zaragoza who are just 3 places below them on Saturday. The things is cos CL even UEFA Cup spot might beyond them this season they might actually put all thier effort into a decent domestic cup run. Tricky.

http://www.betshoot.com/betting/picks/19413/Real-Union-Irun-Valencia-JonnyAtlas

Mike.

jameshayes

redfan wrote: »

great odds where did u get that pp?
...

Clicky; http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?mi=20737034&ex=1&origin=MRL

If i was a betting man i'd put a few quid on the Reggina v Inter Milan game - for Reggina not to score @ 2.25


Edit/ thats 5/4 in the old system!

ErinGoBrath

jameshayes wrote: »

I just put a fair few quid on Chelski -v- pool on more than 1.5 goals. I think that was the worst mistake I have made in a long long time - i dont know why i done it.

As mike said I think you'll be alright. Cup is more gung ho than a league match.

redfan

theres a william hill across from my job . im in at 6pm so im going in early to do a bet but on the net they dont seem to give odds for milan tonight /

jameshayes

ErinGoBrath wrote: »

As mike said I think you'll be alright. Cup is more gung ho than a league match.

I dunno - i think we'll be looking at a 1-0 chelsea win..

threebeards

I got my hole opened with Blackburn last night. Not content to back them when they were 1 down (perish the thought that I'd lay Arsenal instead), I decided to back again in ET when they were a man up. Worst gambling night of my life.

Anyway, onwards and upwards. I'll have a look at this evenings games and see if I can pull it back a bit.

Ace2007

In the end - decided to go with a treble(thinkin now i should of read here first, but anyway here it is):

Roma 11/10
inter 8/15
bayern munich 2/7

shall be a very happy man if this comes in(though knowin my luck it won't)

county

4 draws for me

fc zurich v leverkusen
toulouse v sp moscow
torino v roma
udinese v palermo


76-1 with PP

semibluff

The form book would not seem to favour Michael Skibbe's side, despite good results in the Bundesliga. Leverkusen have not won an away game in UEFA club competition since winning 2-0 at Maccabi Haifa FC in the 2002/03 UEFA Champions League group stage. Their last 18 UEFA competition away games have produced five draws and 13 defeats.

• Zürich, by contrast, are unbeaten in their last nine home games since losing 2-1 at home against KRC Genk in the first round of the 2000/01 UEFA Cup.

very interesting. going by this zurich +1, 4/9
braga to win 1/3
munich 2/9
panios 8/13

pays over 5/2 - thats my bet, with panios the sweat

Ace2007, id leave roma out - cant fund myself backing them after i lumped versus ManU

Ace2007

meh - bit late now, i too was going to back

braga to win 1/3
panios 8/13

but i know nothing about either team, and panios - is just from some tip a random guy gave above... and was looking at the table... so decided to do roma instead

Ace2007

i also wasn't aware at time of backing that- the italian games are cup matches or are they?

jameshayes

Ace2007 wrote: »

i also wasn't aware at time of backing that- the italian games are cup matches or are they?

Yup the oul equivalent of the carling/FA cup!

A little more important than the carling - a little more important than the FA Cup

semibluff

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/uefacup/index.html

i was reading this all day - informative enough - its the reason i lumped on the turks against CSKA in champo

Ace2007

• Worryingly for Panionios, they have lost four of their last five European home games, with their only continental victories under Lienen coming away from home. They have lost both of their UEFA Cup home games this season, 1-0 against FC Sochaux-Montbéliard in the first round and 3-0 against Galatasaray last month.

• Panionios have played five games against French sides in European competition, and have lost all but one of them, breaking their duck with the 2-0 win at Sochaux that sent them into the group stage this season.