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Arsenal -vs- Chelsea

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I thought Fabregas's tackle on Cole :) was nuts, I think he was actually trying to really injure him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭Rollo Tamasi


    PHB wrote: »
    I thought Fabregas's tackle on Clichy was nuts, I think he was actually trying to really injure him.
    yeah, it was great wasn't it. Highlight of the match for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    PHB wrote: »
    I thought Fabregas's tackle on Clichy was nuts, I think he was actually trying to really injure him.
    yes, i found it hard to understand why he was tackling his own left back myself...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭Im_No_Superman


    PHB wrote: »
    I thought Fabregas's tackle on Cole :) was nuts, I think he was actually trying to really injure him.
    Yeah Im surprised that was brushed over, I thought it was a very bad tackle, no intent to play the ball at all, he could easily have got a red card on another day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭yahoo_moe


    he should have been off - it was an awful tackle and he looked like he was trying to wrap his foot around cole's leg... i like fabregas a lot and i appreciate his spiky side as much as his footballing side but that was plain nasty and very unprofessional (and not that there's ever a good time for a suspension but it was especially stupid when he's just back from injury coming into the Christmas period)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Stekelly wrote: »
    Doesnt matter how many goals you have rules out if they are offside. If Lampard had caught 5 crosses and thrown them into the net it wouldnt mean Chelsea deserved anymore.

    OK we still deservee the win imo. And the first goal was not off side, very very close but benefit in this situation is supposed to go to attacking team and second goal was not a foul. As for your Lampard comment above :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Yeah Im surprised that was brushed over, I thought it was a very bad tackle, no intent to play the ball at all, he could easily have got a red card on another day.


    and so could Terry for his tackle on Cesc and Cole for reacting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    and so could Terry for his tackle on Cesc and Cole for reacting.

    they al should have in my opinion. Wiley is a really weak referee, he always avoids the difficult decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Agreed, it was a very strange game for a referee though. Very easily could have sent off 3/4 players and be justified in doing so. I'm also read today in the Indo that Grant is angry over the tackle that injured Terry and was motioning along the lines of Eboue should have been sent off. Now I don't like Eboue but there wasn't any intention (imo) other than to block Terrys clearence. Unlucky on Terrys part.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    they al should have in my opinion. Wiley is a really weak referee, he always avoids the difficult decisions.

    I think Wiley did a (for the most part) good job. There was potential for a game like this to boil over into a brawl so he didn't dish out the cards on sight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    Galvasean wrote: »
    I think Wiley did a (for the most part) good job. There was potential for a game like this to boil over into a brawl so he didn't dish out the cards on sight.

    it effectively did though. from Terry's tackle onwards things just kept escalating slowly but surely. I don't agree with the whole "diffuse the situation" lark, all it is is the referee avoiding making the hard decision. Players need to be made accountable for their actions. Cesc shouldn't have been let away with just a yellow, it was a horrific tackle! that type of refereeing just encourages that type of behaviour in the future too as the players know they'll get away with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    With a different card happy Ref, Terry and Fabregas would have gone, Mikel probably would have gone for 2 bookings and possibly Eboue too. In any event it would probably have ended up 9 vs 9.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    yahoo_moe wrote: »
    PHB wrote:
    Originally Posted by PHB
    I thought Fabregas's tackle on Cole was nuts, I think he was actually trying to really injure him.
    yes, i found it hard to understand why he was tackling his own left back myself...
    Just goes to show how seemless the transition from Cole to Clichy has been, PHB can't tell them apart!

    I thought Arsenal did enough to deserve the win but were by no means at their best. van Persie looked to be the fittest of himself, Fabregas and Hleb but was benched because Fabregas wasn't fit enough to play in a 4-4-2, imo. Fabregas and Hleb weren't very sharp.

    However Essien, Carvalho and Drogba were massive losses for Chelsea. They have a job on replacing the latter next summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    they al should have in my opinion. Wiley is a really weak referee, he always avoids the difficult decisions.


    yup you are prob right, obviously personal history between Cole and Cesc, but, and I hope I don't get jumped upon for this as I don't want to see any player injured but have to say Cesc you made me :D:) big time with that tackle.

    The thing is the standard of refs is **** poor these days, no consistency and thats what bugs people big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    it effectively did though. from Terry's tackle onwards things just kept escalating slowly but surely. I don't agree with the whole "diffuse the situation" lark, all it is is the referee avoiding making the hard decision. Players need to be made accountable for their actions. Cesc shouldn't have been let away with just a yellow, it was a horrific tackle! that type of refereeing just encourages that type of behaviour in the future too as the players know they'll get away with it.


    John Terry should never have been injured as he should not even have been on the pitch at the time, should have gone for his two footed challenge on Cesc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭AnCapaillMor


    Anyone notice Cesc, pushing Fwank in the back a few times while off the ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    He gave him a friendly pat after fwank sliced his free kick a mile wide. Lovely young lad is cesc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    jackdaw wrote: »
    whats that ??

    listen,......... anyone else hear it ??

    a kind of banging sound ??

    like a hammer ?

    hammering a final nail in a coffin ?? with Chelsea written on it ...

    You seriously think that's the end of Chelsea? Buffoon. And someone else posted Cashley, I assume you mean Man Utd.....................

    Chelsea were muck yesterday, no Drogba, no Carvalho and thanks to dirty tackling by Eboue no Terry, we'll see in the return fixture at Stamford bridge if we're at full strength and Gallas, Toure and Adebayor are injured who gets their asses handed to them! Not us for sure!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,145 ✭✭✭Lands Leaving


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    You seriously think that's the end of Chelsea? Buffoon. And someone else posted Cashley, I assume you mean Man Utd.....................

    Chelsea were muck yesterday, no Drogba, no Carvalho and thanks to dirty tackling by Eboue no Terry, we'll see in the return fixture at Stamford bridge if we're at full strength and Gallas, Toure and Adebayor are injured who gets their asses handed to them! Not us for sure!

    Considering he's gone for the foreseeable future though, who's gonna score the goals?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    You seriously think that's the end of Chelsea? Buffoon. And someone else posted Cashley, I assume you mean Man Utd.....................

    Chelsea were muck yesterday, no Drogba, no Carvalho and thanks to dirty tackling by Eboue no Terry, we'll see in the return fixture at Stamford bridge if we're at full strength and Gallas, Toure and Adebayor are injured who gets their asses handed to them! Not us for sure!


    Terry should never have been injured as he should not have been on the pitch should have got a red for tackle on Cesc. Arsenal also had players returning from injury, Jesus you have spent enough money ove the last few years and you are complaining about injuries,just get on with it, Arsenal deserved the win, get over it and stop making excuses. I have no doubt Chelsea will bounce back and will be challenging come the end of the season,but ffs stop moaning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    Considering he's gone for the foreseeable future though, who's gonna score the goals?

    You're absolutely right, without Drogs, Chelse carry no goal threat, my guess is Grant is gonna buy someone in the Jan window, hope it's another Drogba and not another Sheva :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    You seriously think that's the end of Chelsea? Buffoon. And someone else posted Cashley, I assume you mean Man Utd.....................

    Chelsea were muck yesterday, no Drogba, no Carvalho and thanks to dirty tackling by Eboue no Terry, we'll see in the return fixture at Stamford bridge if we're at full strength and Gallas, Toure and Adebayor are injured who gets their asses handed to them! Not us for sure!

    :confused: to the first part? What's supposed to come after Man Utd?

    Eboue's tackle on Terry was a free kick and a yellow card. Yeah, he left the boot in but that happens a lot. Terry, on the other hand, made a disgusting tackle and followed through on a helpless Fabregas who was already on the ground. The only intention that John Terry could have had there was to injure Fabregas. It's not nice to see him get injured but that's karma for you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Terry should never have been injured as he should not have been on the pitch should have got a red for tackle on Cesc. Arsenal also had players returning from injury, Jesus you have spent enough money ove the last few years and you are complaining about injuries,just get on with it, Arsenal deserved the win, get over it and stop making excuses. I have no doubt Chelsea will bounce back and will be challenging come the end of the season,but ffs stop moaning.

    Give me a break, I'm not moaning and I never said Gooners didn't deserve it, but we had injuries to key players, Arse didn't, that was the difference on the day, and as for spending money, we have spent more than Arsenal, but less than 'pool and Manyoo so don't make me eat that chestnut again, Terrys tackle on Cesc was permissable in a contact sport, not a red card tackle IMHO, but Eboues' tackle on Terry was a bit blue b4 the 9 o'clock water shed


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Terry also kicked out at Eboue off the ball later in the game (before Eboue ended his involvement).

    Personally, I don't think either tackle was worthy of a red card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    Give me a break, I'm not moaning and I never said Gooners didn't deserve it, but we had injuries to key players, Arse didn't, that was the difference on the day, and as for spending money, we have spent more than Arsenal, but less than 'pool and Manyoo so don't make me eat that chestnut again, Terrys tackle on Cesc was permissable in a contact sport, not a red card tackle IMHO, but Eboues' tackle on Terry was a bit blue b4 the 9 o'clock water shed

    I'm afraid there's no cure for this one! :D

    Terry's tackle wouldn't be permissable in any sport, except maybe the UFC. Chelsea's solution to every problem seems to be to throw money at it. Drogba, Shevchenko, Kalou, Pizarro, some other £30million striker. Not the best long term strategy to follow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,591 ✭✭✭✭cson


    To repeat what I've posted above; I don't like Eboue but I honestly think he was trying to block the clearence. Terry kicked his foot more than anything. To defend Terry, his tackle wasn't two footed and he actually got the ball but imo he actually intended to hurt Fabregas in doing it. He just launched into it from a mile out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    An Citeog wrote: »
    Chelsea's solution to every problem seems to be to throw money at it.

    Let them carry on spending and spending, imo it will eventually end in tears :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭elbow316


    I can't think of two nicer guys to get done than "JT" and Cashley...bit of justice handed out yesterday :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    elbow316 wrote: »
    I can't think of two nicer guys to get done than "JT" and Cashley...bit of justice handed out yesterday :D


    Was JT Crying again.


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