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Bar weight question

  • 12-12-2007 7:08am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭


    A bit of a dumb question but:
    Are you meant to include the weight of the bar when calculating weight lifted.
    Or is it just what you put on the bar that counts?
    e.g If I put 40kg on a 7kg bar do I count that as a 47kg lift?
    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭wasabi


    Well, you have to lift the bar too, so yes you do count it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Cheers. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    Not as dumb as ya think Tech (or else, maybe you are dumb and so am I!) - we had this come up a couple of weeks back and I realised I'd never considered the weight of the bar. I always use the 7ft Olympic bar when benching and squatting and was surprised to hear the damn thing weights 20kg!

    When I'd hear people mention shifting this weight and that weight, I'd be thinkin 'Man, I'm miles away from that...' but add 20kg onto your total and you're doing better than you thought! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭thebiggestjim


    Yup, include it. If your lifting the bar include its weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Ah, you've missed out mate. You should have not included it for ages and kept your hands over your ears when people were talking and then one day realised you were MUCH stronger than you thought. Like giving a loan of money to someone and then only remembering you did when they hand it back to you... score!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    If I had an oly bar then when I started out doing overhead tricep work I would have been able to lift MINUS 5kg.


    Next question I predict will be "when people say they can lift xkg" how many reps are they usually talking about.

    Answer- 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    Roper wrote: »
    Ah, you've missed out mate. You should have not included it for ages and kept your hands over your ears when people were talking and then one day realised you were MUCH stronger than you thought. Like giving a loan of money to someone and then only remembering you did when they hand it back to you... score!

    :D
    Yeah very true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,951 ✭✭✭SuprSi


    Heh I was only thinking about this last week. Makes me feel good that I'm actually benching 55kg rather than the measly 35kg I'd originally thought!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    All jokes aside, it is very important to factor it. A guy benching at home could go to a gym and stick his usual 2 20kg plates and attempt a bench press, unaware that his bar at home could be 2-7kg and end up with 13-18kg extra with no spotter as he thinks he should be fine.

    Another less serious reason is it enables you to calculate your % increases & progress properly.


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