Abusing designated parking spaces

MoominPapa

After an experience recently with a jerk, who also had the face of jerk, in the Dundrum Centre car park, who had parked in a parent and child space while not being in possession of a child - don't know if he actually was a parent or not, I was wondering, since most people regard able bodied people parking in disabled spaces as being worse than Hitler, are people parent and Child space abusers?

Pigman II

Yes, in my considered opinion, people who infract on your life are Hitler.

MrJoeSoap

MoominPapa wrote: »

most people regard able bodied people parking in disabled spaces as being worse than Hitler

You said Hitler, our survey says...

_Kaiser_

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

You said Hitler, our survey says...

linky

On Topic: I've been known to if picking up my chinese. Usually off-peak hours and never in a disabled spot though

MarkR

Yep. They are clearly nazis. Goose stepping all around the place in their jackboots and pointy helmets. Makes me sick.

That's it. Next time I see one i'm going to do it. Screw the nicities. I'm going to mention the war.

Jesus Wept

Parent and child spaces

feck that. Why should people be penalized for not having children?

I'm in favour of disabled spaces. I'd be in favour of letting people who are pregnant/frail/old use them.

But parent and child? Pfft.

FlutterinBantam

Look son,don't get all het up.

This is IRELAND!

You know the deal here,all these signs,itsy bitsy regulations,yellow lines and stuff apply to THE OTHER PERSONnot to you ffs!

Park her wherever you want,sure it's only you,be different if every punter in the place did it.Whack it into the spot as near as possible to the door,sure you are only going to be there half an hour and anybody who complains is a fcukin busybody.

Loosen yer kex man, and relax a bit,one person can't possibly put the whole nation out of kilter.

ziggy

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keefg

Disabled spaces are a complete no go - but Parent/Child spaces are fair game & I park in them regularly.

I will explain why....a friend of mine (parent of 3 kids) made a similar comment that she hated people who used the Parent/Child spaces - yet she felt she was OK to drive down a hard shoulder if there was bad traffic.

The reason?? Because she has to take her kids to school and couldn't leave the house any earlier to avoid the rush hour to get to work, she felt she had the right (as a parent) to skip the traffic by speeding down the hard shoulder on the inside of the traffic :mad:

I have never killed a Jew, Gypsy or Homosexual and I have never invaded another country so it's a bit harsh to label me as a Nazi :rolleyes:

So any parents who think I am a monster for using "their" spaces - can all burn in Dante's Inferno

MrJoeSoap

keefg wrote: »

I have never killed a Jew, Gypsy or Homosexual and I have never invaded another country so it's a bit harsh to label me as a Nazi :rolleyes:

Yeah, right. Pull the other one.

Karl Hungus

MoominPapa wrote: »

parent and Child space abusers?

Subtle LIKE A FOX!!!

Lands Leaving

ziggy wrote: »

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Kids are lazy, whining brats. thats why.

keefg

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

Yeah, right. Pull the other one.

Well..not recently anyway

Overheal

yea theres a difference between Parent and Child spots and disabled, and even the Gardai know it - they have no quibs about pulling into the P&C slot at tesco while theyre loading up for their lunch break. Seen it happen a few times now.

Traumadoc

What if you normally have a child, but just forgot to bring it, is it ok to park in the parent and child space.
Happens to me a lot.

Rb

The parent and child parking spots are the same as regular parking spots as far as I'm concerned.

keefg

Traumadoc wrote: »

What if you normally have a child, but just forgot to bring it, is it ok to park in the parent and child space.
Happens to me a lot.

Or if you are challenged, just say the kids are in the boot

The_Conductor

I have no issue whatsoever with parking in a Parent and Child Space. My relatively modest car emits far less noxious fumes than do most of the MPVs that tend to be in the P&C spaces- as I have pointed out to one or two people who stopped to lecture me. Also- as I learnt when one of them reversed into me (coming in the wrong direction on a one-way system too), carparks are private property and rules of the road do not strictly apply. For the purpose of making an insurance claim- reversing up a one way to try and grab an empty space does not even make you 100% liable if you hit someone, as the other person never warned you, they weren't there. If a private company wants to designate a space as for P&C only- it is up to them to enforce it, and good luck to them enforcing it. I make a personal policy of petitioning all supermarket and department store managers to redesignate any P&C spaces as disabled spaces. So far I've gotten one bay at Superquinn Lucan redesignated.

Traumadoc

keefg wrote: »

Or if you are challenged, just say the kids are in the boot

good idea

Creature

I don't know Homer Simpson, I, I never met Homer Simpson or had any contact with him, but, *breaks down crying* I'm sorry, I can't go on.

simu

I have to say I don't see the point of parent and child places - I don't see why kids can't walk/be pushed in a stroller from any place in a carpark. Also, the small number of P&C spaces in a carpark doesn't correspond to the large number of parents with kids you get in such places. All leading me to conclude that it's a tokenistic piece of "PR" to make parents believe the shopping centre cares about them or some such nonsense.

I don't have a car though but I might go hug some trees in one of those spaces some day!

jd

There is more space between the cars so it is easier to place kids into child seats. I think that is part of the reason.

simu

jd wrote: »

There is more space between the cars so it is easier to place kids into child seats. I think that is part of the reason.

Meh, it's not that hard to fit a kid into a seat in a normal space.

jd

simu wrote: »

Meh, it's not that hard to fit a kid into a seat in a normal space.

I thought the same, until I carted my sister and her baby around.
Most people use dual stroller /car seats and you detach the seat from the stroller and into the car. You need to be able to open the door fully.

Genghiz Cohen

simu wrote: »

Meh, it's not that hard to fit a kid into a seat in a normal space.

Unless they're FAT!
Which needs another thread methinks, "Fat kid's, would you starve your child for a week for the greater good?"

I would, and beat em too!

animaal

The-Rigger wrote: »

Parent and child spaces

feck that. Why should people be penalized for not having children?

I'm in favour of disabled spaces. I'd be in favour of letting people who are pregnant/frail/old use them.

But parent and child? Pfft.

Ever had your car dented while you were in a shopping centre? It might be because people like yourself were filling the parent-and-child spots, and some mother, parked in the narrow spot next to your car, was struggling to get a baby out of a child-seat, and pushed the door of her car into yours. Parent-and-child spots aren't just to make life easier for *them*.

It sounds like it'll be a good few years before you'll be a parent. You might see things differently then.

Capt'n Midnight

Don't forget that a 8 month pregnant woman can't use those spaces but the parents of a 17 year old who has a driving license can.

If shops had the will they could simply have a standard fee of €100 to use the spots closest to the door and waive the fee if you have a disabled sticker or have young children. For reasons of safety SUV's and Van's would be banned because of poor visibility of children.

MagicMarker

Fair enough if they need bigger spaces to get a child seat out, i'm all for it if that's the case. But why are these spots closer to the main entrance than standard spaces? There's no need for that methinks.

cornbb

The-Rigger wrote: »

Parent and child spaces

feck that. Why should people be penalized for not having children?

I'm in favour of disabled spaces. I'd be in favour of letting people who are pregnant/frail/old use them.

But parent and child? Pfft.

^^ What he said

Red Alert

I think there are too many parent & child spaces and they're unnecessary too.

embee

I'm a parent, and I use those spaces.

When my wee girl was a brand new baby, I needed the extra space around the parent & child spaces to get her carseat in and out of the car to put onto the buggy. Well, this was the case in the shopping centre I used to visit the most - the ordinary spaces seem narrower than usual there. I don't use them so much anymore now that she's almost 2 and I don't have to go hoisting carseats in and out of the car, but if there's an empty one I'll use it for sure (though I wouldn't use them if I didn't have my daughter with me). I don't see why people are so annoyed about their existence - there are usually no consequences for a person parking in one of these spaces who doesn't have children, so whats the big deal? Yeah, its nice if they're left free for parents on their own wrestling with buggies and carseats etc., but if they're not, I don't think there's much point in parents getting all up in arms about it.

Jesus Wept

animaal wrote: »

Ever had your car dented while you were in a shopping centre? It might be because people like yourself were filling the parent-and-child spots, and some mother, parked in the narrow spot next to your car, was struggling to get a baby out of a child-seat, and pushed the door of her car into yours. Parent-and-child spots aren't just to make life easier for *them*.

It's acceptable to be incompetent and damage other peoples property if you are a parent?

It doesn't take a lot of space to get a baby out of a child seat.
Also, if you just open the car door as far as you can carefully you aren't going to damage anyones car.

Considering these Parent and child spaces are few and far between, it hardly makes sense to suggest that people can't be expected to manage in a normal parking spot.

animaal wrote: »

It sounds like it'll be a good few years before you'll be a parent. You might see things differently then.

I can assure you I won't see things any differently.

Why should we bend over backwards because someone has a child/children? Did they choose to have the child/children? (and if you didn't choose it, they knew the possibly was there).

It's not like we are underpopulated? Are we?

I don't understand child benefit payments either, but I may be in the minority there.

antodeco

Wont someone, please think about the children?!?!

FX Meister

I park in them when I can, closer to the shops and more space to get out. Never had them when I was a child so I'm claiming back rights.

Stark

The-Rigger wrote: »

It's acceptable to be incompetent and damage other peoples property if you are a parent?

Heh, I remember sitting in my car before and a family got into the car next to me. The kids thought it would be great fun to repeatedly slam their car door against mine. I gave the parents a look to say "WTF? Aren't you going to stop them" and got no reaction. Unfortunately there wasn't enough damage to claim off the *****.

MoominPapa wrote:

I was wondering, since most people regard able bodied people parking in disabled spaces as being worse than Hitler, are people parent and Child space abusers

If I'm on my way to the shops and intend on parking in one of those spaces, I usually stop by a school first and grab a child to take with me. That way my conscience is clear.

Flashraziel

I was up in Artane Castle with my dad going to Tesco. On the way to the car a woman stopped him and began to complain that he had parked in a parent and child space. He just said "but I am a parent. that's my son there" pointing at me. I'm 21. The woman just stormed off.

whyulittle

Overheal wrote: »

yea theres a difference between Parent and Child spots and disabled, and even the Gardai know it - they have no quibs about pulling into the P&C slot at tesco while theyre loading up for their lunch break. Seen it happen a few times now.

Saw it myself last week, only they were coming out of a sports shop, bag in hand. :eek: Must actually check next time was it a disabled spot, or mother and child spot.

msg11

Have to say, I would be an offender off this, bit of a situation happened yesterday, with a women.. An unnamed tesco, parked in one of "this spots", women came over to the window.. started talking then shut up once she seen the uniform, that I worked there..

Secondly I am a child, I think 17, although we wont go there..

In saying that, as far as I know, if your staff, it is ok too park up too the front. Wouldnt park in a disabled spot, that's not on. Be aware, some security people park in the disabled spot, because there cars are at risk of been smashed up by little scumbags.

connundrum

Children car spots gone mad.

Tesco are now getting involved in the whole 'when is a baby reaaly a baby' argument. Brilliant!

msg11

Also too add too the subject... Would people be as quick too use these spots if they were at the back of the car park... A good distance away from the main door?? I think not..

junkster12345

The-Rigger wrote: »

Parent and child spaces

feck that. Why should people be penalized for not having children?

I'm in favour of disabled spaces. I'd be in favour of letting people who are pregnant/frail/old use them.

But parent and child? Pfft.

i love disabled spaces, those guys are really sound, they never park in their own spaces so i do instead !

Neilthefunkee1

really simple solution here.. how about the next time you go to park your car(in a normal space) put it in the middle of the space, not on the line, over the line or basically sideways across 2 spaces!!.. now if everyone did that there will always be plenty of room on each side of your car.. use the ol head!!

oh and im 22 and if im in the car wit my mam or dad we use the space!!! No age limit as far as im concerned..

I don't understand this obsession with finding a parking space that cuts seconds of walking from your shopping expedition.
We are a nation of lardarses, we need all the help we can get on the excersise front. Especially the kids.

I think they should be renamed Parent and Buggie spots.

The_Conductor

Moonbaby wrote:

I don't understand this obsession with finding a parking space that cuts seconds of walking from your shopping expedition.
We are a nation of lardarses, we need all the help we can get on the excersise front. Especially the kids.

I think they should be renamed Parent and Buggie spots.

In most Irish shopping centres these days- its not simply a case of finding a space close to the shops- its finding a space fullstop. More people are driving now than ever before- but carpark capacity if anything has reduced. If you try to park at a Tesco/Superquinn/M&S/Dunnes at the moment- its an exercise in futility. You almost have to stalk people as they leave the shop and sit on the ground when they pullout to stake your spot and then call your SO on the mobile- so they can park for you. Its ridiculous. It would almost make it worth your while to grow your own fruit and veg again- if only you could find a shop that sells the seeds

Mossy Monk

However did my mother cope without these spaces all those years ago. Disabled parking spaces are need. But parent and child are not.

User45701

What? **** that. Sorry but i dont see why just because you had a child you get a better parking space? You cause me to sit in traffic outside your schools, you cause me to have to listen to that screaming, you get money off the goverment that is funded through taxes which should be spent on better things. No.
Those parking spaces are not law, i had a propper arguement with one of those types at superquin.

Parent and child parking? What a joke kids need a space close to the door and with big parking space, kids are too ****ing dumb they cant open doors without hitting other cars and they need to be close to the door so they dont have to walk far.

Kids are going to be so much fatter. Its a joke though why would parent and child need bigger parking spaces is there some new mental diesse that effects children in irelands spacial coridanation or soemthing? they cant judge distences? Really can someone tell me what sort of child cant tell how far the other car is? They smash it with the door? or is it the parents? are they so confused and overwelmed with kids they cant manover a trolly without hitting another car?

Duckjob

Moonbaby wrote: »

I don't understand this obsession with finding a parking space that cuts seconds of walking from your shopping expedition.
We are a nation of lardarses, we need all the help we can get on the excersise front. Especially the kids.

QFT.

Because we desperately want to be as fat as Americans. You'll know there's no hope for us when drivethrough ATMs arrive.

cance

family spaces are fair game IMO. It's not my problem or concern that you decided to have brats. I'll only park in a disabled spot late at night, if its temporary and if there is more than one free.