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  • 07-12-2007 3:17pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭


    Watching Peter Jacksons film "BrainDead" atm. It is a Zombie Movie set in 1950's New Zealand and I am finding it unusually thought provoking. As in most films of this genre the oft-asked question "could you finish your friend if they had been bitten?" raises itself.

    The mistake the heroes of these movies usually make is to try and save the victim by allowing them to tag along and by caring for their wounds in a bid to nurse them back to health. As a result this only helps to accelerate the plague by failing to cut it off at the source. It truly is a case of being cruel to be kind.

    As I pondered this dilemma I came to the conclusion that "Yes I could go as far finish my best friend or my siblings to stop the spread but that I'd probably be unable to finish of my parents with a swift bash over the head with a shovel if the need ever arose".

    So how are we expected to live thru a Zombie plague when survival suddenly becomes a question of love and morality? How far could you go when faced with the acid test? Could you find the resolve to finish your own parents and close relatives in order to spare the lives of millions?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭kaimera


    Yea I'd hit that with a shovel. No worries.

    I'd expect them to do the same tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Shotgun TBH, watch for the splatter though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Dancor


    I have prepared myself for this fact already, My girlfriend, Brother and parents zombie selfs will all get the shoval or bullet.


  • Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Do a "28 days later" job and hack them up if you even think they're infected :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Oh Christ yeah, if anyone i know goes zombie then they are buying the farm, garden impliment style.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    The real question is fast zombies or slow zombies?

    With fast zombies you're fucked because unless you've got a gun with some good firing training, you're gonna get eaten. In this case the best thing to do is pull up the gas mains, light a match and boom, a quick death and no chance of a torturous zombified afterlife.

    With slow zombies you've got a good chance of survival if you keep moving toward the country and keep a nice sturdy screwdriver handy (better than a blade, trust me). They're gonna overrun and surround you eventually - believe me, they will. However you should survive for enough time to butcher your zombified relatives. Now killing zombified relatives may seem emotionally straining but I'm sure the natural 'will to survive' instinct will kick in and guide the screwdriver home. However should the moral compass flare up at this most inopportune of times, you must ask yourself two questions;

    1 - Do you like the stench of dead flesh? Most likely no.

    2- Do you like your relatives enough to spend eternity shambling around with them? Again answer is probably no.

    So if your sense of survival doesn't kick in, the logical centre of your brain should do and either way your parent's head will end up as mush.

    As you can tell from my barely coherent meanderings I've thought about this a lot and yes I have no doubt that if need be I'll could jam a screwdriver into the eyesocket of any close relative. Though we needn't worry about that because if the book The Road is anything to go by a future nuclear armageddon will not create an army of the undead but merely a less fearsome army of homeless people and single parents. :/




    Btw kudos for watching Braindead at 3 o'clock in the day, days off are great eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    I personally would use my time machine to go back and prevent the initial zombie outbreak.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    I've taken a more pro-active approach and have killed my family and friends in anticipation of any zombie plague.

    Prevention is paramount when it comes to zombies.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Pigman II wrote: »
    Watching Peter Jacksons film "BrainDead" atm. It is a Zombie Movie set in 1950's New Zealand and I am finding it unusually thought provoking. As in most films of this genre the oft-asked question "could you finish your friend if they had been bitten?" raises itself.

    The mistake the heroes of these movies usually make is to try and save the victim by allowing them to tag along and by caring for their wounds in a bid to nurse them back to health. As a result this only helps to accelerate the plague by failing to cut it off at the source. It truly is a case of being cruel to be kind.

    As I pondered this dilemma I came to the conclusion that "Yes I could go as far finish my best friend or my siblings to stop the spread but that I'd probably be unable to finish of my parents with a swift bash over the head with a shovel if the need ever arose".

    So how are we expected to live thru a Zombie plague when survival suddenly becomes a question of love and morality? How far could you go when faced with the acid test? Could you find the resolve to finish your own parents and close relatives in order to spare the lives of millions?

    A friend has finished me off a few times. She's very helpful like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    Strange that everyone view for zombies is to kill the victims and cut it off at the source, given that HIV/AIDS can be stopped by taking the same actions would they also advocate slaughter to stop the spread of that?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Diemos wrote: »
    Strange that everyone view for zombies is to kill the victims and cut it off at the source, given that HIV/AIDS can be stopped by taking the same actions would they also advocate slaughter to stop the spread of that?

    zombies arent real. aids/hiv affected people are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Creature


    Diemos wrote: »
    Strange that everyone view for zombies is to kill the victims and cut it off at the source, given that HIV/AIDS can be stopped by taking the same actions would they also advocate slaughter to stop the spread of that?
    kearnsr wrote: »
    zombies arent real. aids/hiv affected people are

    LOL

    AIDS victims also don't go around cannibalising other people as far as I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Diemos


    I wasn't saying they are one and the same.....just merely pointing out that another infection (a real one) can be stopped by the same means but I've never heard such a drastic appraoch motioned to remedy that issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    The mistake people always seem to make when faced with zombies is that they think they can escape the menace by leaving town. But what's in the next town? More zombies. So my solution would be to send my infected loved one and the other zombies out of town, to be with the other zombies.
    DaveMcG wrote: »
    I've taken a more pro-active approach and have killed my family and friends in anticipation of any zombie plague.

    Prevention is paramount when it comes to zombies.

    If more people did this we wouldn't have to sit through so many "Mom and Dad are zombies, what should I do???!!!" threads on PI.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭Da Bomber


    In a heartbeat,preferably using a chainsaw or axe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Since as zombies they'd be a serious threat to myself, I'd finish them off the minute I saw them beginning to turn.
    If I knew for definite that there was no turning back after they'd been bitten, they'd be dead the minute I saw the bite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    I have come to terms a long time ago with the fact that I would kill them straight away if they were bitten. Not a thought. Unless it was a limb. Than I would ask them if they wanted to try amputation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Zombies can be trained, smack them about with a bag of oranges and chain them to a radiator IMO.
    Then the learning begins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    kowloon wrote: »
    Zombies can be trained, smack them about with a bag of oranges and chain them to a radiator IMO.
    Then the learning begins.

    Dawn of the dead or 28 days later style?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Diemos wrote: »
    I wasn't saying they are one and the same.....just merely pointing out that another infection (a real one) can be stopped by the same means but I've never heard such a drastic appraoch motioned to remedy that issue.

    all infections can be stopped that way


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    Yes. I would have no problem doing it.
    Mind you, it's never going to happen, so it's quite easy to say that I would do it in the knowledge that I will never have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Dawn of the dead or 28 days later style?

    More like Day of the deads trained zombie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,247 ✭✭✭✭6th


    Depends who it was, worked out well to keep Nick Frost in the Garden shed in Shawn of the Dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,503 ✭✭✭thefinalstage


    kowloon wrote: »
    More like Day of the deads trained zombie

    Cruel yet fair!


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