Intolerance and the urge to... I'm not sure, scream?

LegacyUser

It's amazing how just starting one of these PI posts can be theraputic. I have a general feeling of unhappiness, but every time I try to start this post by listing things, I come to terms with them and delete... it's strange, and good

Just by vocalising what's on your mind, much of it can seem managable... I suppose that's what it's all about

I'm aware of such beauty in the world, all around us, in music and art and human relationships, laughter, true things... and I see these things being regurgitated by the media, by TV and radio and marketing campaigns, the Boyzones of this world, the Pat Kenny toyshow whore-fest, the 14-yr old girl on the bus who "want's to be a wag when she grows up", Sky fukcing news and it's morbid, car-crash mentality. The PC brigade. I could just go on and on.

Sometimes I feel so removed from the society I find myself in, it's hard to interact. I find myself physically having to leave social situations because of some braying jackass who's holding court, lest I do or say something I'll regret. So much pretense, falseness, non-sense being talked around you, so many masks... the kind of smiling mask that will be discarded as soon as you turn to trade bullsh!t pleasantaries with the person to your other side. It's quite demoralising.

The idea of just getting away from all this came up in conversation tonight, just cutting yourself off from this entire fcuking island, the cnuts that are in charge, that grinning prick at the top getting away with it all and the scuttling idiots that voted to keep him, and who now bitch louder than anyone. Just going to an island somewhere and finding a way to put up with it all, to brush it off, to accept it for the nonsense of life, a fact of life. It would be wonderful to wake up tomorrow, immune to it all.

I'm sorry for ranting. I'm going to post this anyway, if you read this then I hope it didn't bring you down; like I said the universe is a beautiful, infinitely amazing place. I'm glad to be part of it. It's just some of the company I have a problem with

SarahSassy

disaffected wrote: »

The idea of just getting away from all this came up in conversation tonight, just cutting yourself off from this entire fcuking island, the cnuts that are in charge, that grinning prick at the top getting away with it all and the scuttling idiots that voted to keep him, and who now bitch louder than anyone. Just going to an island somewhere and finding a way to put up with it all, to brush it off, to accept it for the nonsense of life, a fact of life. It would be wonderful to wake up tomorrow, immune to it all.

I'm sorry for ranting. I'm going to post this anyway, if you read this then I hope it didn't bring you down; like I said the universe is a beautiful, infinitely amazing place. I'm glad to be part of it. It's just some of the company I have a problem with

I assume you have access to a passport so there is nothing stopping you leaving the country?? You will find though people, countries and governments are the same (or worse) the world over. Welcome to the real world. If you choose not to live the life of a hermit then you have to put up with all types...

This post did bring me down and it left me feeling that you are one of those self same braying jackasses that you so detest.... Why did you feel that this post would bring anything to the readers lives??? Why did you feel it acceptable to intrude on peoples lives with your negativity??? In that manner, you are as selfish as the (nonsense talking) people in society that you detest.

This is not a real problem its another boring rant.... Choose what you watch, read and who you talk to and try not to bore the head off people (who dont want to know) with your negative rants. Thats not what the PI forum is for.

SS

PS your language is foul and unnecessary.

Overheal

Personally I just watch the Daily Show: if you watch how screwed up the United States is long enough it will cheer you right up

http://www.thedailyshow.com <-- all clips available here. (Political Sattire)

LegacyUser

SS,

My apologies for boring you, and for offending you with my choice of words. I was thinking today 'I wonder why she bothered to engage me, if she found what I had to say so objectionable?' - made me think, so thanks for that.

I can assure you though, it is a real problem, I'm just not very good at verbalising it, and it comes and goes in waves. Right now it's managable - when I posted, it wasn't

LegacyUser

OP - No you didn't bring me down, you made me smile, there is a lot of truth in what you have to say, unfortunately it seems to be the way society is and what you can do about it I really don't know.

SarahSassy- I don't think a passport will change anything. You asked the OP why he thought it was acceptable to intrude on peoples lives with his negativity, what bubble are you living in, what you call negativity I call reality, as for intruding on peoples lives, this is a public forum, is it not.
You also tell the OP to chose what he reads, watches and who he talks to, sounds to me like you like to bury your head in the sand.

LegacyUser

You make some good points, and yes, most of us are aware of what a weird and fuked up society we live in at the moment.
I wouldn't let it get me down.

I treat fakeness and the PC brigade amongst the list you have in your original post with saracasm and contempt most of the time. And I get a good laugh out of it.

As such I'm not seen as one of the more agreeable people, but I don't care, those that get on with me do, and those that don't ,don't.

I have no intention of leaving society...if I left, how could I change the small things?

I also object as frequently as I can in conversation with someone talking utter boll*x in the nicest possible way.
Try it.

Catari Jaguar

I think you are dead right OP. I feel the exact same way, I get told I'm negative or moany because I give a sh*t about things that matter in this world and voice my opinions. People are so phoney here and full of self importance and trivial bollix that doesnt matter.
I don't know is it just me who has cop on or do they really not see whats going on around them when it's so fukn obvious?? It does my head in.
Although I have no solution, just know you're not the only one who feels that way.

StormWarrior

OP, I know just how you feel. I have lived in the UK my whole life and it is a total s***hole. Thankfully I have found another country which is ten billion times better (don't want to say where as I don't want to encourage people to visit it, fall in love with it, move there and ruin it!) and am now working towards my goal of moving there permanently. You should travel and find somewhere you love. Not everwhere is as rubbish, there are still some idyllic places left out there.

Sir Oxman

I understand where the OP is coming from - I get the 'rage' (for want of a better word) when all around me is bull****, utter bollix, mindnumbing trivia, gossip and rumour masquerading as concern etc etc.

I find it is better to disassociate as much as possible from the source of annoyance - I don't make myself available to be in the company of people I dislike and where I am caught with such utter drains on my will to live (ie, work) I find the phone a great saviour, there's always a call to make - 9 times out of 10 the offending annoyance flutters away to annoy someone else.

Ah - I feel much better now (just like the OP!)

supertramp

Okay, has anyone watched the film Into The Wild? It's about a young man who has a similar disagreement with society, and who went into the wilderness to live.

Or read 'Walden' by Henry Theoreau? It won't solve society's problems, but it will help deal with it better, as there are many who have the same opinion.

SarahSassy

I 'get' where he is coming from but where is the 'personal issue'.. People always feel marginalised by society as do i but I dont feel the need to bore people with the details.... I know people are boring and I abhorr small talk but life is such...

I yawn at some of my colleagues and the people I see in the bars but such is life... I am not mentally above or below them - we are different... The smug OP seems to think that because he 'thinks' / questions society that he is above everyone else. Maybe the people who are talking to you feel the same??????

LegacyUser

SS, I'm sorry that I came across smug, that wasn't my intention even if it were so.

It's heartening to hear a few other voices, a few others who occasionally find the idiocy of the whole dance frustrating. I'm not going to rant or say much more on it. I don't feel I'm any different from the rest, I'm as guilty of herd mentality and adhering to norms, dispite myself. It's just that sometimes I become aware of it, and the insanity of it all, and it brings me down.

Surely, if there is a higher purpose for us as children of the universe, then *this* can't be it. I feel like we're letting ourselves down. And you're right, it's not a personal issue, this affects every one of us.

Ishindar

OP when i struggle with this **** i put on rage against the machine nice and loud try it, it helps!

SarahSassy

OP maybe i am missing the point but I thought it was a given and didnt need to be stated that there are idiots in society..... I, the same as you, find parts of society weak, boring, ineffective etc etc but I choose to live in this society so for my sanity I have to choose the parts of it I want to participate in.....

Many posters here seem to think that you have uncovered a huge secret - its not a secret to me and to many people I have talked to on the issue. In a money orientated, wanna be American society like ours there will be people who feel marginalised and you seem to be one of these people....

We all have problems and annoyances I just feel that this forum provides a lot of good advice to people who are in need of it, its called personal issues and your rant is not a personal issue - its just a rant and I for one dont really want to hear it.... Its not new, its not original and its not a 'personal issue'.

SarahSassy

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SarahSassy- I don't think a passport will change anything. You asked the OP why he thought it was acceptable to intrude on peoples lives with his negativity, what bubble are you living in, what you call negativity I call reality, as for intruding on peoples lives, this is a public forum, is it not.
You also tell the OP to chose what he reads, watches and who he talks to, sounds to me like you like to bury your head in the sand.

My point was that this is not new or original, its also not a personal issue - its an unoriginal rant. Most people feel like this but we have to just get on with it. I feel the same at times and I just avoid people who will frustrate me, I dont watch the trash like Xpose nor read silly gossipy magasines, therefore I have choice over what kind of media exposure I get.. Much of the time we can choose our exposure to the environment / society and if you dont like it then change what you expose yourself to.

speaktofrank

Well I felt the same so moved to the South of France where I now teach in a university.
Point is if you are so unhappy with Ireland there is nothing to stop you leaving. Be warned that even though you think you will never miss it in a million years there are many things I miss. Going home at xmas so can't wait though

Catari Jaguar

SarahSassy wrote: »

We all have problems and annoyances I just feel that this forum provides a lot of good advice to people who are in need of it, its called personal issues and your rant is not a personal issue - its just a rant and I for one dont really want to hear it.... Its not new, its not original and its not a 'personal issue'.

You're not a mod. If you aren't interested just click X and don't reply. You have no right to tell OP what their "personal issues" are just because you don't feel that way. Maybe you see the world around you as sunshine in a cup, but not everyone does. OP is obviously an intelligent, observant, passionate, down to earth person. And if s/he has an issue with this life and country they have been born into than they has a right to vocalise it and see if anyone else feels the same.

You can't ignore society by not reading trashy magazines, it's everywhere. I personally feel like it's not just Celtic Tiger Ireland, there is so much wrong in the world, and so many beautiful and pure things are being destroyed for this "lifestyle" we lead of complete triviality, I could burst from exasperation and inability to change anything. It's like a trap and how do you get out? I know I don't belong in a rat race, fickle society.

And there's no "maybe" about it, you're definitely missing the point and you sure haven't given any decent advice out, just given out.

SarahSassy

Lil Kitten wrote: »

You're not a mod.

And neither are you......

Lil Kitten wrote: »

OP is obviously an intelligent, observant, passionate, down to earth person.

Why because they share the same point of view as you??? Get over yourself. I guess about 50% of the population feel like that but they just get on with it.

Sanctimonious claptrap!!! (I have always wanted to be able to say that and mean it )

SS

PS: we can all change society if we can be bothered to... Its just little by little.

togster

Back on topic please.;) @OP its tough but sure quit moaning about it and move somewhere. Seriously i mean what is the point in moaning, really you are just as bad as the others you complain about. I am not trying to belittle your personal isse (and yes SS it is a personal isses:rolleyes:) I wish you well in just getting on with it, the more you dwell on it the more it will impact upon you. So good luck:)

LegacyUser

it IS a personal issue because it 's effecting his/her feelings. Personally I'd say if you feel strongly about it, get out and DO something about it. You'll feel better if youre actively doing something about the way things are rather than running away (emigrating) or trying to ignore it.

^whitey^

supertramp wrote: »

Okay, has anyone watched the film Into The Wild? It's about a young man who has a similar disagreement with society, and who went into the wilderness to live.

Or read 'Walden' by Henry Theoreau? It won't solve society's problems, but it will help deal with it better, as there are many who have the same opinion.

As soon as I finished reading the OP's post I thought of ... Christopher McCandless. Oh and it's worth reading the book before the film.

Beruthiel

SarahSassy wrote: »

Its not new, its not original and its not a 'personal issue'.

I was busy over the weekend and didn't log into Boards, so perhaps I missed the thread in the Mod forum stating you had been added as a PI mod?

SarahSassy

Beruthiel wrote: »

I was busy over the weekend and didn't log into Boards, so perhaps I missed the thread in the Mod forum stating you had been added as a PI mod?

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.....

I (and I can only speak for myself) dont consider it a personal issue... Its a rant and a whinge but if you read some of the posts I've read here over the weekend you would see where I am coming from... I've seen posts being moved from PI for less.

Nevyn

SarahSassy banned for off topic and unhelpful posting and commenting on a mod action in thread.

If you have an issue with a post or think it does not belong in the forum use the report post function.
If you have an issue with a mod action or post use the report post function or learn to take it to pm or feedback.

Sir Oxman

Tuppenceworth - as I said above this is a personal issue, it's definitely personal to me so well done to the OP for raising it.

It takes a long time to find your personal coping strategy if trivial bull annoys to such an extreme that it depresses you - I am finding 'my' coping strategy but there's no point stating it all over this forum (and it doesn't always involve a handy phone!) as everyone is different, including the poor souls who happen to bore/thoroughly annoy you or I to tears. I'm sure I do the same to others, anyways...

On a sidenote, I didn't think I'd have the balls to get into stuff like this with my username on show (people in work/outside know my username here and they read here) but to let you in on a secret - that's a little part of my coping strategy...Don't bottle it in, say your piece and stand your ground. Feathers might be ruffled but you'll have your piece of mind and the gossipy/trivia gushing braindeads will eventually GO AWAY (!!!!!!) or more than likely, won't bother you so much.

Other posters are right - you must get away from what antagonises you and concentrate on what you find beautiful, whatever that may be.

HTH.