Faith healer??

chiefwiggam

I'm not really a believer in this stuff but I would be prepared to give it a go.

Does anybody know of a faith healer/7th son of a 7th son in Dublin or somewhere close ?

faceman

OP i know this is an open minded forum but seriously consider this before doing it. True faith healers dont charge any money and most of them are dead. Are you sick/ill or are you just curious?

chiefwiggam

i have a condition that is not easy to cure.

Dave!

Sorry to hear about your condition mate, but I don't think a faith healer is the answer. If they do it free of charge, fair enough, but if they're charging for it (and they probably will be), I think you'd be better off putting that money aside for any medical treatment that may be required in the future.

Ninja_scrotum

I'm not really a believer in this stuff but I would be prepared to give it a go.

Doesn't a faith healer need you to have faith and believe in him for his magic powers to work?

I'd say a doctor would be the best shot in your case.

hiorta

... is the actual designation, faith in anything is not required at all - consider what faith babies, animals or comatose folk might have.

Consult your Doctor first, every time. Then you might look further, especially if there is a cause beyond the physical.

Cause & Effect always apply of course, this is not magic.

I know of a man in Bray who might be interested in trying to help.
P.M. me please if you wish to look further. He does not charge for Healing.

By the way, forget the 7th son idea, pure folklore. This is about Soul qualities which can only be earned, rather than inherited, although an innate tendency is inherited.

PS. There are many Healers in Glasgow and roundabout, if you should find yourself there.

Whispered

Hi, firstly I'd like to ask how faceman knows all faithhealers are dead although it did give me a giggle

There are more healers around now than ever before! most of them very good. There are changing attitudes to this sort of thing and people are much more open than they used to be.

As Hiorta said, faith in a "higher" power, "god" etc is not necessary. It's all about intention and faith in your bodys ability to heal itself (as healers don't do anything but channel)

chiefwiggam, you dont need a 7th son of 7th son, I personally know an amazing reiki practitioner if you would like her details, however she does charge. As do I. There are a couple of reasons for this.

Firstly, if someone can tell me how to survive as a healer without charging people then I would be more than happy not to charge, but we are normal people with houses, cars, bills etc. As far as I am concerned saying a healer shouldn't charge is like saying any other profession shouldn't.

Secondly the whole way that healing works is through intention and gratitude (perhaps other people have different methods this is just my way of explaining) if I started giving sessions for nothing it becomes nothing more than a way to pass an hour for people. I dont always ask for money, for example I work with one lady who, in return is teaching me a language and I am perfectly happy to do this. I feel it is a fair exchange of time.

I also do it on animals, which I dont charge for (they dont have very big pockets) and if I know someone is upset, sick, angry, stressed etc I will automatically send. Again not charging for it. But if someone asks me for a session then I charge. I think this is fair enough.

I know you were not talking about Reiki, which is all I have experience in so anything I said there is refering to reiki. But really, in my opinion, it is all based on the same thing, which is wanting the best for someone.

If you visit a healer for a particular condition and they dont ask if you have visited a doctor please dont allow them to do a treatment. The main concern for any healer should be your health. It is a complimentary therapy and should be used with conventional medicine. Likewise if you visit a healer who claims they WILL heal you, you can never say this as you just dont know.

I would reccommend going to your doctor first then if you want to visit a healer ring a few up!! Most of them will be more than happy to have a chat with you, explain what their procedure is, what you can expect etc. If they dont make you feel comfortable then dont book with them, if they immediately start speaking about money, dont book with them.

There are also some techniques which you can do to start healing yourself which I will be more then happy to run through with you if you are intersted. They take a bit of disipline though. If you are not into meditation they may be boring for you. Also if you would like me to send you some absent healing I will, I will need your full name for that.

faceman

helena.ryan wrote: »

Hi, firstly I'd like to ask how faceman knows all faithhealers are dead although it did give me a giggle

i meant all the good (free!) ones! I have bits of all their coffins on those church blessed wallets!

Whispered

Faceman, feel free to laugh at how niave I am but................ really? Are you talking about saints etc? I'm all confused

faceman

no i dont think you are naive at all! I was being slightly tongue in cheek.
I was referring primarily to those people of the cloth who gave their lives to God after discovering their healing powers.

I have a friend or had a friend, havent seen him in years, who went to a faith healer for shingles in Dublin. His family are quite religous. What they did to "cure him" was off the wall and at a price. This faith healer was considered a highly recommened and respected faith healer in Dublin by those in the faith healing circles. It was a farce. And it didnt work.

I dont really want to discuss what they did as it will open up the discussion in a way that I feel wont bring anything beneficial to the thread but lets just say it was completely inappropriate and dangerous.

heirenach

Hi,Chiefwiggam. A faithhealer can help your spirit heal you.Most illnesses are mind related in some form or other.If your condition is more serious then i would advise to get the best medical advice you can get even if it means travelling to Eastern european specialised clinics.They are affordable ,Your good health is your real wealth.

Whispered

Oh Really Faceman? Thats terrible, some people are complete messers. Same with every profession really and I know of NO spiritual healing practise which could be dangerous so I hate to think of what this "healer" was up to!! What makes you say he's respected in faith healing circles? Is he famous?

I think we are speaking from two different belief systems. You say about people "discovering" their ability, where I believe everyone has the same ability. You also seem to think that turning your life over to God and becoming a "person of the cloth" means that you are a better healer. I believe that to be the best healer possible you have to accept yourself as human first and foremost and enjoy and learn from human xperiences. Live life to the full and all that. Probably shows my ignorance towards the type of life lived by ordained people. Sorry, I always imagine it as a closed in life, I'm probably wrong!! I think healing for you has very religious attachments? (I just say this coz you mentioned that his family is religious) For me it's more spiritual and not at all based on what religion you follow.

ladybirdirl

Helena,

Very well said!

I have a friend who does reiki & spiritual healing...yes she does charge but I am living proof of what she does

Ladybird

stevenmu

The only spiritual healing practice I'm aware of which may be dangerous, and this may be what faceman is referring to I'm not sure, and that's that some healers have told people to not seek any other treatment. I've always liked the term 'complimentary medicine' because I feel such things work well in tandem with modern medicine.

I think someone said in this thread, altough I can't seem to see it now, that spiritual healing helps your spirit to heal you, which is something I'd agree with. We do have a remarkable ability to heal ourselves, and sometimes a little help with that can do wonders. But at the same time there are many things beyond our own ability to heal, and while spiritual healing may help, modern medical treatment is essential.

I would urge anyone with any medical condition to consult there GP, and if they are considering complimentary treatments to mention it to their GP aswell.

Whispered

stevenmu wrote: »

The only spiritual healing practice I'm aware of which may be dangerous, and this may be what faceman is referring to I'm not sure, and that's that some healers have told people to not seek any other treatment. I've always liked the term 'complimentary medicine' because I feel such things work well in tandem with modern medicine.
I would urge anyone with any medical condition to consult there GP, and if they are considering complimentary treatments to mention it to their GP aswell.

I completly agree with you. No respectable holistic/spiritual healer should EVER suggest that you dont see your GP. Although we were thought to always respect your clients wishes, luckily I've never had to deal with this but I'd worry about what to say if I was told by a client that they dont want to see their doctor anymore. I suppose I could advise against stopping but if they insisted I think I would find it hard to treat them TBH as I would feel somewhat responsible for their decision (even though I would never ever suggest not visiting a doctor for an illness). It's a pretty complicated matter for me and needs to be treated with a lot of sensitivity.

Ladybird, I love hearing about people with good experiences!! I'm still only learning and sometimes the critisism can give me doubts, even though I have seen and felt amazing things, it's sometimes difficult to tell yet another person that it's not a "load of nonsense" :rolleyes: and I sometimes wonder "are they right, am I being silly?" then something will happen (like you coming on here and saying how wonderful Reiki is) and my faith in myself and my abilities is restored. Thanks

hiorta

There have been no suggestion that an individual should NOT see a qualified medical practioner - indeed it has been repeatedly said that this should be done.
From the other side of the debate, should the 'patient' state that they will not consult a doctor - and especially if a child is involved - it is recommended that the 'patient' is asked to confirm, in writing, that they have been advised to seek medical opinion in the first instance.
A rare enough situation, but it can arise.

kshiel

I have tried self healing which I found amazing and worked for me. Its been said enough times all ready that medical advice and treatment is essential in any illness, and I would agree with this and with what stevenmu has said. I dont know any healers personally but I would say that once the person goes into this knowing all the facts and with their eyes open and maybe a pre-appointment before treatment for the explaination of the who's what and whys of whats going on, they should be adult enough to make their own minds up.

Whispered

Crazynirish, I'm so sorry to hear that. And I have no idea what to say to you to be honest. I cant imagine how you and your girlfriend must be feeling.

PM me as much detail as you feel comfortable with. I can definately look into setting up a meeting with a wonderful woman depending on your area. If I cant set it up with someone I know I will help you find someone in your area. Also, I will set up a time each day or night where your girlfriend can relax and I will send healing from here. To do this I will need her name, even just her first name. Please PM me with it.

Please be aware that healing doesn't always work but it always, always has some sort of benefit. Even if you can't see it at the time.

stevenmu

Crazynirish's post temporarily removed to clear up some details.

Can I ask that people please refrain from discussing specific medical issues, while it's fine to talk about faith/spiritual healing generically and in an abstract sense, and to pass on details of healers, we must be careful to avoid anything which could be considered giving medical advice, and especially with regards to advising people in relation to specific conditions.

Thanks.

(to be clear this is a site wide rule based on Irish law which must be enforced absolutely)