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Hunting pheasants

  • 27-11-2007 8:12pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭


    Just wondering what cartridges do you recommend for shooting pheasants?

    Ely grand prix any good?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Noone in here yet Bond, you're only seeing this forum 'cos you're a mod in another forum :)
    We have to tidy up charters and who's modding what and so forth yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 801 ✭✭✭jaycee


    As a service to a fellow mod , i'll say #6 Shot :)
    Yes Eley are fine ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭sounder


    35gr 7's from rc i find good for them.and have being shooting them for 2-3 years now there good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Does anyone have an opinion on using a different shot # in each barrel?

    And what do the difference actually mean in the field, where does #5, #6, #7 differ. Which situations suit each?

    Opinions please


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭foxhunter


    Ely grand prix any good?[/QUOTE]

    The answer you require is yes :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Auldloon


    Mellor wrote: »
    Does anyone have an opinion on using a different shot # in each barrel?

    And what do the difference actually mean in the field, where does #5, #6, #7 differ. Which situations suit each?

    Opinions please

    My understanding of the difference is the size of the grains of lead in the cartridge is related to the shot number ie #5 cartridge will have larger size of grains than a #6 etc etc. This also means the larger the grains the less will be contained in a cartridge.
    I could happily use #9,7 for snipe
    #7,5 for pheasant, rabbit
    #7,6 for woodcock
    #5,4 for duck
    each time using the higher # in the first barell because for your second shot the target should be further away from you. Hope that helps..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Gibbins123


    Oh STOP SHOOTING POOR ANIMALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

    FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO!:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 468 ✭✭foxhunter


    Gibbins123 wrote: »
    Oh STOP SHOOTING POOR ANIMALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

    FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO!:mad:

    I presume you didn't read the charter then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Trojan911


    Mellor wrote: »
    Does anyone have an opinion on using a different shot # in each barrel?

    I use 32 or 34gr 7's & an open choke (I have a semi auto) when shooting pigeon & crow & I would use the same on a pheasant or duck If I could find one round my way. This gives me a wider range to hit the target in flight.

    Rabbits I use 4's or 5's again 32 or 34gr on a closed choke. Foxes 52gr 3' Magnums also on a closed choke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Chuileog wrote: »
    My understanding of the difference is the size of the grains of lead in the cartridge is related to the shot number ie #5 cartridge will have larger size of grains than a #6 etc etc. This also means the larger the grains the less will be contained in a cartridge.
    I could happily use #9,7 for snipe
    #7,5 for pheasant, rabbit
    #7,6 for woodcock
    #5,4 for duck
    each time using the higher # in the first barell because for your second shot the target should be further away from you. Hope that helps..
    I've always used #6,#5 for pheasent.

    I probably wasn't clear in my previous post, I understand the different number and refering to size of pellet. Shot selection is linked to quarry,
    but I want to know how does a #5 and a #7 differ in terms of distribution at a given distance. Which has the largest spread at the same distance, or are they even with the higher number have more (albeit smaller) pellets in the same area


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Gibbins123 wrote: »
    Oh STOP SHOOTING POOR ANIMALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

    FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO!:mad:
    As foxhunter said, you should have read the Charter, as you would also have seen that SHOUTING is frowned upon here too.
    If you wish to debate the ethics of hunting, please present your arguments in a rational manner.

    Infraction given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    I don't shoot animals for entertainment firstly because I don't have an audience when I hunt unless you count a mentally retarded labrador and a couple of fellow shooters as being an audience. And second because the animal's don't perform consistently, some refuse to drop or fall when shot at :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭spideog7


    And second because the animal's don't perform consistently, some refuse to drop or fall when shot at

    I see your problem.... you're only shooting at them ;)

    I use 36gr 6s for Pheasant, 7 1/2s for Snipe, and 36gr 6s for Duck too.
    For duck I don't mind using heavier like 4s if I had them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭the hunter


    Gibbins123 wrote: »
    Oh STOP SHOOTING POOR ANIMALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

    FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO!:mad:

    what did you expect to find people talking about in the "HUNTING" forum ?? (the clue was in the name) .
    now to quote your good self "find something better to do" :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭kerryman12


    Chuileog Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mellor
    Does anyone have an opinion on using a different shot # in each barrel?

    And what do the difference actually mean in the field, where does #5, #6, #7 differ. Which situations suit each?

    Opinions please

    My understanding of the difference is the size of the grains of lead in the cartridge is related to the shot number ie #5 cartridge will have larger size of grains than a #6 etc etc. This also means the larger the grains the less will be contained in a cartridge.
    I could happily use #9,7 for snipe
    #7,5 for pheasant, rabbit
    #7,6 for woodcock
    #5,4 for duck
    each time using the higher # in the first barell because for your second shot the target should be further away from you. Hope that helps..



    This is good advise. It was the way I was taught to shoot.:cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    What do you do if you are operating from a single barrell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭kerryman12


    Make sure you hit it with the first shot:p



    All you can do is split the differance based on the game you are shooting and the type of country you are shooting in.
    i.e. Heavy cover means the bird will probably be close with it rises, in open country phesant will run other game may rises at a greater distance so you need to be prepared for a further range shoot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Gibbins123 wrote: »
    Oh STOP SHOOTING POOR ANIMALS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!

    FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO!:mad:

    You mean they don't have money ? At all ? Ever ? Explains why there is never money in their pockets :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,505 ✭✭✭macnab


    You mean they don't have money ? At all ? Ever ? Explains why there is never money in their pockets :D

    :D:D:D:D, maybe miss Gibbins could stick to what she knows an help the poor little critters with their accounts.:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    007

    Number 5's in the left barrel and #6 in the right, or #5's in both.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭scuby


    i would always use remington shurshot cartridges.

    in a 12g semi-auto beretta, i would use a number 6/7 for pheasant

    and in a 16g side x side, i use number 8's and 6/7

    never get a misfire. think it's the 32 grm ones i use, will check


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Eley Alphamax 32g are very good,quite expensive though,i usually use a 6 for pheasant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    And what is suitable for ducks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    A 32gr or 36gr 4 to 6 in 12gauge. If you're flighting use the heavier load ( style RC34 or similar ). An infallable wisdom from my old man though : if your shot was good and there's powder and lead in your cartridge you'll drop something:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    007,
    Agree with Stevie re his first statement.
    Size #5 and #4 are often recommended for ducks shot at greater distance -larger pellets, because they are heavier, retain their velocity better and so killing power over distance is greater than the smaller sizes, -also larger shot usually produces tighter patterns because it deforms less than smaller shot.
    What you're looking for is down-range energy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Banjax


    32g #6 eley gprix hi-v in right barrel, same of #5 (if I can get them) in the left.

    I used to use the original winchester western cartridges in the tight choke barrel, but they are not made anymore, which is a pity, as they were a very decent game cartridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    5's seem to be a nice middle of the road cartridge for most things.Anyone use 44gram 5's for anything.Got a box,the shoulder isn't too sure!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    Eley Alphamax is what i use for phesants


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭tippbhoy


    Degsy wrote: »
    Eley Alphamax 32g are very good,quite expensive though,i usually use a 6 for pheasant.

    i always thought all alphamax are 36Grm?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭bitemybanger


    the ones i use are anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    the fiottchie no 7 in the first barrell and a sga 6 in the second. both 32g shots. not a bad combo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel


    Pheasants are tough shots especially going away (up the arse) no vitals for a ways.
    Left barrel full choke at about 45 yards # 5 shot. Bird ran a half mile ahead of good dogs and got up on the other side of a big break.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Wolfhillbilly


    My da always swore by Eley Maximum but I find them hard to get. 6 in the first barrel, 4 in the second. Any opinions on them? Are they available in No 7?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭Double Barrel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    32g 6 half choke (use an auto)

    my Father who doesnt shoot any more always used 4's, Eleys. I remember a conversation with him at sixteen, Da what shot should I use for pigeon, reply 4, and for pheasants 4, and for ducks 4 and if I was shooting geese BB's. As he grew up in the "emergency" I'm assuming number 4 was all they had.

    It was my Mother that asked me to stop using 4s

    Nice bird


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