Russian Orthodoxy in Ireland (General Discussion)

BanzaiBk

I've got the Mod ok for this thread.

Reading this forum of late got me wondering if there are any other followers of the Russian Orthodox church on Boards. Outside my own RuOrth community in Cork and the Dublin community, I have yet to meet another follower:p I was thinking that this thread could be used for general discussion about the church and maybe answer any questions non-followers may have.

Small background on my own beliefs; Father was born in St. Petersburg in 1950 to a Russian father and Georgian mother, and was raised with RuOrtho as his religion as have I. Due to the stagnant nature of the church I am perhaps moreso inclined to describe myself as a Christian these days, but I participate in all holidays and ceremonies etc with my family.

Our direct "leader" is Archbishop Innokenty of Korsun of the Diocese of Sourozh (GB & Ireland). It is quite hard being a practising member of the church, especially being based in Cork, but thanks in part to the massive amounts of eastern Europeans descending upon Ireland it has become somewhat easier to group enough people together to invite over a priest from England to celebrate the divine liturgy.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble. Anybody out there?:)

robindch

Здесь, я думаю - нет. В форуме атеистов (здесь), есть регулярный писатель, который женат c россянкой, но он -- я не знаю, как сказать -- не очень православная. Это тоже самое со мной.

Но посмотрим. Может быть, кто-нибудь здесь?

Удача с Дублина!

BanzaiBk

Heh thanks for the reply:) Unfortunatly I read cyrillc very badly:(

I think I got the jist of it with google translator though. I really didn't hold out much hope unfortunatly, it was worth a try though:p

robindch

hmm... never tried google's Russian online translator before, but having tried it just now, it does a much better job than the one at translate.ru. It also pointed out a spello. Oh, well.

Anyhow, best of luck with your search!

JimiTime

robindch wrote: »

Здесь, я думаю - нет. В форуме атеистов (здесь), есть регулярный писатель, который женат c россянкой, но он -- я не знаю, как сказать -- не очень православная. Это тоже самое со мной.

Но посмотрим. Может быть, кто-нибудь здесь?

Удача с Дублина!

Showoff:D:p

Run_to_da_hills

robindch wrote: »

Здесь, я думаю - нет. В форуме атеистов (здесь), есть регулярный писатель, который женат c россянкой, но он -- я не знаю, как сказать -- не очень православная. Это тоже самое со мной.

Но посмотрим. Может быть, кто-нибудь здесь?

Удача с Дублина!

Interesting link ! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Languages/Russian/russian_orthodox-russian.htm

cailinoBAC

I don't know about Cork, but my Belarusian/Russian friends would go to the church in Harold's Cross. http://www.stpeterstpaul.net/
The website doesn't seem to have an English version.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
Oh hang on, here's a schedule. Looks like you missed a liturgy in Cork yesterday.
http://www.stpeterstpaul.net/default.asp?show=schedule_eng

BanzaiBk

cailinoBAC wrote: »

I don't know about Cork, but my Belarusian/Russian friends would go to the church in Harold's Cross. http://www.stpeterstpaul.net/
The website doesn't seem to have an English version.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodoxy_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland
Oh hang on, here's a schedule. Looks like you missed a liturgy in Cork yesterday.
http://www.stpeterstpaul.net/default.asp?show=schedule_eng

Nope, didn't miss it. I was there. I attend mass as often as the the church can facilitate us. There is a pretty large Russian/Belorussian/Ukrainian community in Cork. Thanks so much for your post though:)

robindch

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Interesting link ! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Languages/Russian/russian_orthodox-russian.htm

I don't want to rain on your parade, but you'd need a high standard of spoken English and Russian, and a very forgiving nature, to be able to make much sense of this.

The Altavista machine translator (which I think you've used) hasn't done much of a job and phrases like "Русский правоверный культ также учит damnable heresy..." and "saith jesus unto он, я буду дорогой, правдой, и жизнью", where virtually every word is mis-translated and sometimes wildly so, is really more likely to have somebody giggling than fretting about the safety of their soul.

stevejazzx

robindch wrote: »

I don't want to rain on your parade, but you'd need a high standard of spoken English and Russian, and a very forgiving nature, to be able to make much sense of this.

The Altavista machine translator (which I think you've used) hasn't done much of a job and phrases like "Руссiий правоверный культ также учит damnable heresy..." and "saith jesus unto он, я буду дорогой, правдой, и жизнью", where virtually every word is mis-translated and sometimes wildly so, is really more likely to have somebody giggling than fretting about the safety of their soul.

Hey robin,

Have you learned russian? Six years on now and I'm still struggling....

Run_to_da_hills

robindch wrote: »

I don't want to rain on your parade, but you'd need a high standard of spoken English and Russian, and a very forgiving nature, to be able to make much sense of this.

The Altavista machine translator (which I think you've used) hasn't done much of a job and phrases like "Русский правоверный культ также учит damnable heresy..." and "saith jesus unto он, я буду дорогой, правдой, и жизнью", where virtually every word is mis-translated and sometimes wildly so, is really more likely to have somebody giggling than fretting about the safety of their soul.

Я имею вариант английского языка также.

robindch

rtdh wrote:

Я имею вариант английского языка также.

I rest my case

BrianCalgary

OK guys, I'm impressed by the russian.

How well do each of you know it, and why did you study it?

robindch

brian wrote:

How well do each of you know it, and why did you study it?

Enough to get by without too much trouble. In terms of opening up square miles of the earth's surface for effort invested, Russian's way out in front. And as well as being useful in all the places you'd expect, it's also worked for me in Armenia, Cuba, Mongolia and bizarrely, North Korea.

And, of course, there's that cool script. All in all, it's a pretty much unbeatable language really.

BanzaiBk

Nice written Russian I must say, even I growing up in a typical modern Russian family struggle badly with written Russian. I even attended Russian language classes for 8 years I would feel that my spoken level and reading level are quite proficient though, and have been fine in my travels throughout the former Soviet States. Those online translators do no one any good though, and if anything it is quite easy to spot the translator cheats.

In reality though most, if not all, RuOrth services I have attended throughout my life have been in the church slavonic language. Maybe the odd celebration in Russian, but rarely.