My Final Thread...

Cheeky_gal

I know I post a lot in this forum but I love it so apologies. But the last few times I've posted my diet I've been told "you're undereating", "your diets sh*t" etc etc.

So; I've taken all advice on board and have come up with a diet which I can stick to but need advice on whether it will work (for weight loss) or not and if it's even healthy.

So; Breakfast
Poached egg w/ 3 rashers
OR
Fruit Smoothie

Lunch
Chicken fillet wrap w/ letuce, tomato etc
Coffee

Snack
Piece of fruit

Dinner
Meat w/ veg or pasta dish

Snack
Fruit

I have a feeling people are gonna suggest nuts but I only like cashew/salted nuts so I'm guessing they're out of the question. I'd really appreciate a response...thanks a mil!

Also I already asked this question but how in terms of carbs...is a wrap "a hell of a lot less" "carbascious" than bread or pasta due to the fact its so thin?! Or would it even make a difference if i had a bowl of pasta or sandwich instead? Cheers

rubadub

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

I have a feeling people are gonna suggest nuts but I only like cashew/salted nuts so I'm guessing they're out of the question.

The salt is the main concern, make sure you drink enough water and you should be fine. You can get raw unsalted cashews in asian shops, use them with chicken for stir-frys. I find the stated salt content on packs is high anyway, i.e. by the time you get to the end there is a load of salt that has fallen off, so the actual salt you eat is lower than the one on the pack, you can also try and shake it off.

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

Also I already asked this question but how in terms of carbs...is a wrap "a hell of a lot less" "carbascious" than bread or pasta due to the fact its so thin?!

Just read the pack, it is thin but it is more compact and heavy. I use iceberg leafs for wraps.

I have no idea how much you are eating as you gave no real portion sizes, you really need a scale to work this out correctly.

tribulus

Protein with every meal/snack, eat protein with the fruit. Cashews are fine if you get them just plain. Eat protein.

Poached eggs w/rasher OR fruit smoothie - they're polar opposites!

Keep the eggs (I'm not sure what way poached ones are cooked though?) don't have the rashers, little bang for your buck, in that you get only a small amount of protein but sh1t loads of salt and saturated fat.

For dinner avoid the pasta and stick to meat with veg. Eat protein.

Cheeky_gal

rubadub wrote: »

You can get raw unsalted cashews in asian shops, use them with chicken for stir-frys.

This confuses me cuz aren't nuts extremely high in fat? I know theyre "good fats" but still, I'm trying to lose weight.

rubadub wrote: »

Just read the pack, it is thin but it is more compact and heavy. I use iceberg leafs for wraps.

It says 193 kcals per wrap...which I couldn't believe...thats huge for something so thin! Would they defo be a better option other than bread though? It's ssoooo stressful cuz I've been having them because I thought they were great for you! Likewise with the bacon and eggs, I'm shocked over that cuz I was told having an egg and bacon every day is a bril breakfast. Now I'm told its high in saturates and salt (salt I knew) but....wow!

Hanley

You don't get fat by eating fat. You get fat by eating too many calories.

You lose weight by reducing total overal kcals. But carbs should be the first to go. More protein, more healthy fat, less carbs.

I can't believe you thought bacon and egss was a good breakfast choice...

Cheeky_gal

Hanley wrote: »

I can't believe you thought bacon and egss was a good breakfast choice...

TBH Hanley, you hear so much "increase protein" and all that when I was told this was a good breakfast I immediately thought "eggs, rashers ---> lots of protein"! So I guess it was an easy mistake to make. I'm soooo incredibly frustrated now thought cuz I've been having this all week without fail thinking it was great! I'm soo bummed out now...and to make matters worse its been the first week in a long time where I havent been to the gym. Everythings going wrong....

Hanley

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

TBH Hanley, you hear so much "increase protein" and all that when I was told this was a good breakfast I immediately thought "eggs, rashers ---> lots of protein"! So I guess it was an easy mistake to make. I'm soooo incredibly frustrated now thought cuz I've been having this all week without fail thinking it was great! I'm soo bummed out now...and to make matters worse its been the first week in a long time where I havent been to the gym. Everythings going wrong....

Chillax. It's only a week. How long did it take you to accumulate the weight you're trying to lose? It's harder to take it off than put it on.

Very VERY simply.... chances are you'll have to start eating food you're not used to or may not like (or at least stop eating some of the food you do eat currently) to lose weight.

If I could lose weight on rashers I'd eat them nonstop.

g'em

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

I'm soo bummed out now...and to make matters worse its been the first week in a long time where I havent been to the gym. Everythings going wrong....

it's a sucky way to feel isn't it?

And btw, bacon and eggs is not a horrific choice for breakfast. Poached eggs are cooked in water (super healthy) and if you choose lean bacon it's a decent enough protein source. Even better try turkey rashers - they have the same smoky taste, with way less fat.

There's really nothing inherently wrong with the diet plan you laid out. Is it perfect? Nope, but then neither is mine or anyone else's on the board for that matter. I know you've put a lot of work into this and it's great to see you taking on board the advice that you've been given.

Just two teeny adjustments:

* Add a yoghurt (full-fat, preferably the organic ones, try and choose ones with little or no added sugar) to one of your fruit snacks.

* Try and make just one of your meals each day contain starchy carbs (bread, pasta, wraps, rice etc).

Why not start a food log in the Food Diary forum in Nutrition and Diet? Take it a week at a time. Do one week with this plan and note how you feel (your energy, your mood, your well-being etc.) and then you can make adjustments as you go.

rubadub

You are going to simply have to learn to read nutritional info on packs. It is all there. If a particular brand is missing it pick up a similar one and check it, e.g. most tesco products have full values on them.

I eat rashers the odd time, but I get a scissors and cut all the fat off. They are too salty though. You can cut the fat off pork chops or pork steak and fry it. Nothing wrong with a chicken fillet for breakfast. Some people have these notions stuck in their mind for some reason. Fundamentally it makes no sense why pigs are suitable for breakfast but chicken, fish or cows are not! Sausages, bacon, black/white pudding, all pigs, nobody bats an eyelid but tell somebody you had chicken and they think you are a nutter for some odd reason.

This confuses me cuz aren't nuts extremely high in fat? I know theyre "good fats" but still, I'm trying to lose weight

Yes they are high in calories, I was just saying they are not too bad simply because they are salty, wipe it off or drink additional water to offset the excess salt. Protein acts as an appetite suppresant so helps weight loss that way. Control the nut portions, way to easy to scoff too many- again you really need a scales, ~20euro in argos for a small digital one.

It says 193 kcals per wrap...which I couldn't believe

That is since it weighs so much, it is compact, bread is risen. 2 slices of bread will have around the same calories as that. Ditch it for an iceberg lettuce wrap which has negligible calories. These breads are not helping your wieght loss. Think of what you can have instead of it. 193kcal is another chicken fillet, with sauce in a lettuce wrap.

Breakfast should be carbs & some protein. I blend up an egg, porridge oats, water, and some whey protein powder and make pancakes. You can omit the whey, the egg still has protein.

Hanley wrote: »

chances are you'll have to start eating food you're not used to or may not like

Some do, but I strongly advise against it. It should not be a "diet", i.e. fixed term of food you would not ordinarily eat or like. It should be a change in your overall diet for the rest of your life. I eat nothing I do not like, I do not have to. The majority of people are ignorant of what is good/bad, and high/low in calories. The packets all show it nowadays, no excuse for such ignorance. Go around the supermarkets and you will be surprised. Many people have presumptions, e.g. cheekygal thought wraps were relatively low cal, and rashers were OK. The info is on the packs, now pick up chicken fillets and check the info. many presume bland food must be "good", I see people eating supernoodles, they are 550kcal per pack! and this is only half of their meal. Then there are people eating whole packs of go-ahead buiscuits- "but the man on the ad said they are grand". I know people who though skim milk had no calories, that it was like diet coke. I know others who drink coors light because it has "no fat", no messing, they think other beers have fat in them and this is what gives you a beer belly. Some poster knew a girl who though the MORE leann cuisines she ate the thinner she would get!
People comment on my lunches in work as though I am eating loads, while they could be sitting down to a lunch 3 times the calories, and think it is a good choice and healthy.

Cadrach

Cheeky_gal wrote: »

I know I post a lot in this forum but I love it so apologies. But the last few times I've posted my diet I've been told "you're undereating", "your diets sh*t" etc etc.

So; I've taken all advice on board and have come up with a diet which I can stick to but need advice on whether it will work (for weight loss) or not and if it's even healthy.

So; Breakfast
Poached egg w/ 3 rashers
OR
Fruit Smoothie

Lunch
Chicken fillet wrap w/ letuce, tomato etc
Coffee

Snack
Piece of fruit

Dinner
Meat w/ veg or pasta dish

Snack
Fruit

I have a feeling people are gonna suggest nuts but I only like cashew/salted nuts so I'm guessing they're out of the question. I'd really appreciate a response...thanks a mil!

Also I already asked this question but how in terms of carbs...is a wrap "a hell of a lot less" "carbascious" than bread or pasta due to the fact its so thin?! Or would it even make a difference if i had a bowl of pasta or sandwich instead? Cheers

Don't feel bummed about it - every bit you learn will make it easier for you to control your weight. Poached eggs are great, I have them with my breakfast too (I also have a bowl of muesli or porridge, and to balance that I won't have any bread/pasta/rice in the evenings with my dinner to lose weight). The problem with rashers is they're high in saturated fat and there's not a lot of good in them. Turkey/chicken/beef/lamb are generally superior. It is good that you're thinking about getting more protein into you, but there are much better choices than the rashers.

Again, there is no need to apologise for asking questions on this forum... isn't that what it's here for?

Cheeky_gal

Cadrach, Rubadub, G'em, Hanley, Tribulus, Colm O'Reilly and all other posters whos given me advice, I just want to say thank you.

I really do appreciate you all giving your time to helping me and others out. I'm doing my Leaving at the mo and I'm dead keen on becoming a Personal Trainer and helping others out like yourselves and with all of your help I'm sure I'll make a very good one with all my knowledge now! So thanks a mil, you're all sound. I'll cut out the rashers, up my protein, good fats and I'll get more into me (with the odd sneaky brownie!)

daveirl

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