Ballyboden V Birr

EoimarMuppet

Any chance.......??
Is Collie playing hurling for Boden?

blackbelt

No he's not,well at least he hasn't featured on the hurling team.Keaney will be playing.Birr are not going to take Boden lightly thats for sure.Boden are using Crumlin as the prime example of success when they won Leinster some years ago.

yahoo_moe

Boden have done very well so far but I'd be very very surprised if they turned Birr over - Birr look like a class outfit with some great experience in their side at this kind of level.

Pride Fighter

Who will the winners face? If Boden win and get the Ulster champions I'd pop along to Croker on Paddy's day to watch the final. It would be extremely difficult against the Connacht or Munster champions.

MrJoeSoap

yahoo_moe wrote: »

Boden have done very well so far but I'd be very very surprised if they turned Birr over - Birr look like a class outfit with some great experience in their side at this kind of level.

Brian Whelehan alone is all the experience any team needs. Some man, still has it at 36. Should be a cracking tie.

holymolyHS

Is Keaney as good as they say at hurling? Never seen him play but a lot of pundits have heaped praise on the guy.

mchurl

holymolyHS wrote: »

Is Keaney as good as they say at hurling? Never seen him play but a lot of pundits have heaped praise on the guy.

He is indeed a quality hurler, you could sense in the first few games he played that he needed them to get back up to standard, but since then he has been flying. A big loss to the county team.

As for bodens chances, they have finally got the monkey off their back of winning Dublin and i feel they have got a 50/50 chance against Birr. They have some quality hurlers and a very good panel of players, with the bench laden with youngsters from their successful juvenille teams of the past. I for one am looking forward greatly to this game.

yahoo_moe

holymolyHS wrote: »

Is Keaney as good as they say at hurling? Never seen him play but a lot of pundits have heaped praise on the guy.

Keaney is a super hurler (certainly he was a better hurler than footballer at the time he chose to concentrate on the football with Dublin imo) but Boden are far from a one-man team - a lot of the time, it just suits commentators and pundits to mention the player they know (even though, like I said, he's very good)

Same way TJ Reid (great talent) gets a lot less mention than Shefllin or Cha when playing with Ballyhale. Big-name intercounty stars will always be mentioned disproportionately in the Club AI...

Be The Holy

I remember a few years ago him playing a league match against galway in the neller. he was head and shoulders above everyone on the pitch and took the fight to galway. then there was the walsh cup, 2003, a great day to be a dub hurling supporter, he was pure class. Personally, i think he is/was a much better hurler thean a footballer, far more natural. Hope that when/if he does come back, he can reach that level again.

Nalced_irl

I played with Keaney in Boden for a good few years at Juvenile level and even back then you could see he was something special at the game. Doesnt surprise me at all that he has gotten as good as he is today. It was a real pity he had to give it up but hopefully we will see him more often again now.

MrJoeSoap

Only time I ever saw him play hurling for the Dubs live he was sent off! That said he was still one of the best on the park that day.

ybbi

Should definitely be a good game, Boden with the new wexford lad, and Keaney back hurling well should give Birr a game of it, Birr arent the team they once were but should just have enough to get over Boden. The winner play the Ulster Champions who are Dunloy. (who are again an ageing team and the Leinster champions should be able to get over them).

Pride Fighter

I'd love to go to Croker on Paddys day, hopefully Vinnies (who destroyed Portlaoise) and Boden can get there. C'mon the Dublin clubs!!!

Nalced_irl

Were arranging a bit of a day trip to this btw so if anyone is interested in heading down for a day of hurling (and drinking) let us know. I checked the bus timetable and unfortunately it doesnt suit for the game so we will probably be getting the train id say. Should be fun tho and all are welcome!

sgthighway

Might as well get use to it now Portumna are going to win the whole lot out............... ask any Tulla supporter what Portumna are like.

An Citeog

sgthighway wrote: »

Might as well get use to it now Portumna are going to win the whole lot out............... ask any Tulla supporter what Portumna are like.

Even though I'd like to see Boden win it (oooh I feel so dirty! :eek: ), I don't think anyone will be able to put it up to Portumna. Ballyhale Samrocks might have been able to give it a go but I just think they're a level above the rest.

aidan24326

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Who will the winners face? If Boden win and get the Ulster champions I'd pop along to Croker on Paddy's day to watch the final. It would be extremely difficult against the Connacht or Munster champions.

Even if Boden get past Birr (and being honest they're up against it) the Ulster champions cannot be taken lightly. Dunloy are always dangerous and actually knocked out Portumna a couple of years ago.

With the teams that are left in it now I'd say Portumna will take all the beating. Even if Ballyboden were to end up in the final I'd give them very little chance against Portumna.

hot fuss

When and where is this match on does anyone know?

Tomthepost

As a Kerryman I would like to wish Ballyboden the best of luck on Sunday. A provincial championship win for a Dublin team would be an inspiration to all the small ball people in the counties perceived as being weak at hurling

Erin Go Brath

Watched Birr beating the Shamrocks and they look a good team. Havent seen too much of Boden, but i'd think they'd need to play some hurling to turn that Birr team over. Should be a good game though.

Nalced_irl

It certainly isnt impossible to turn Birr over tho. You usually wouldnt see a team cause 2 big upsets in a championship and we already had one by turning over Oulert but the fingers are crossed anyway. Birr have some solid players but if like Oulert did, they underestimate Boden they could pay the penalty for it. I dont think they will however. Should be a cracking match and hopefully we will see the cup back on the Firhouse Road on Sunday night.

An Citeog

Boden have always had some of the most skilful hurlers in Dublin. It's the heart and determination that was lacking and that's what took them so long to capture their first SHC. And that's what they'll need if they want to beat Birr. They face their stiffest test yet but it is definitely not insurmountable. I wouldn't be surprised to see Boden win and hope they do, but they'll have to up their game even more and fight for every single ball.

delta_bravo

Hard luck to Boden. Lost by only a single point and held Birr to only 2 scores in the 2nd half

Nalced_irl

Thought we were definately the better team overall and deserved more. Last puck was a 65 also but was given as wide which could have levelled the game. Ah well, they played a brilliant game and done us proud. Its a very young team also so fingers crossed we will see a few successful years to come in the near future.

blackbelt

Boden were robbed of a draw.Thats Bodens run over for this year and what a shame it had to happen like this.The refs decision is final.I only wish he had overturned the umpires decision.

Its totally unfair.If Boden missed that 65,I'd say fair enough and good luck to Birr but in these circumstances,I hope Dunloy beat them off the pitch.Serious question marks over whether Birr deserve to be in the AIB All-Ireland Club semi final.With that uncertainty,I can only hope Dunloy win.Nevermind provincial loyalty,support the team you know deserves to be there rather than the team there is uncertainty of.

Thats the way things go unfortunately.

villains77

heyman hows the form
pity them pikey biffos won.

premierstone

blackbelt wrote: »

Boden were robbed of a draw.Thats Bodens run over for this year and what a shame it had to happen like this.The refs decision is final.I only wish he had overturned the umpires decision.

Its totally unfair.If Boden missed that 65,I'd say fair enough and good luck to Birr but in these circumstances,I hope Dunloy beat them off the pitch.Serious question marks over whether Birr deserve to be in the AIB All-Ireland Club semi final.With that uncertainty,I can only hope Dunloy win.Nevermind provincial loyalty,support the team you know deserves to be there rather than the team there is uncertainty of.

Thats the way things go unfortunately.

Firstly i thought that the least that boden deserved was a draw, apart from the 65 at the end one of Birr's points -the fifth i think it was - was at least four feet wide, but to say that Birr dont deserve to be in the AI semi final is a bit harsh, its not their fault the standard of umpires is an absolute joke.

I really hope that boden dont drop their headsd after this because after their performance yesterday in the conditions i think they have a massive future and if they keep the same set-up as this year they will be there or there abouts come March 17th 2009

blackbelt

villains77 wrote: »

heyman hows the form
pity them pikey biffos won.

Story dude but you know my second name isn't Heyman.:D

Yes its a travesty they won like that,Boden were robbed of a draw.Wouldn't call them Biffo Pikeys though,thats for KKs.Read the charter.;)

Any news?....going to the Leinster Final on 16th December?

Up the Vins.

blackbelt

premierstone wrote: »

Firstly i thought that the least that boden deserved was a draw, apart from the 65 at the end one of Birr's points -the fifth i think it was - was at least four feet wide, but to say that Birr dont deserve to be in the AI semi final is a bit harsh, its not their fault the standard of umpires is an absolute joke.

I really hope that boden dont drop their headsd after this because after their performance yesterday in the conditions i think they have a massive future and if they keep the same set-up as this year they will be there or there abouts come March 17th 2009

As I am from Dublin,I would be a bit browned off to see these things happening.Birr didn't exactly prove themselves to be the better team yesterday.They had two decisions that robbed Boden and a draw would have been the fair result at least.Umpire was a joke but gaining experience from this,I might find myself on the receiving end of criticism in the near future.

I see this as a small setback for Dublin hurling as a whole.With the progression of hurling in Dublin,its annoying to see this.Out of fairness,I'd support Dunloy.That could be construed as sour grapes but I honestly can't give a team my backing when they didn't legitimately prove themselves as the better team.If the match had have gone into Extra time,who knows what would have happened.

An Citeog

blackbelt wrote: »

As I am from Dublin,I would be a bit browned off to see these things happening.Birr didn't exactly prove themselves to be the better team yesterday.They had two decisions that robbed Boden and a draw would have been the fair result at least.Umpire was a joke but gaining experience from this,I might find myself on the receiving end of criticism in the near future.

I see this as a small setback for Dublin hurling as a whole.With the progression of hurling in Dublin,its annoying to see this.Out of fairness,I'd support Dunloy.That could be construed as sour grapes but I honestly can't give a team my backing when they didn't legitimately prove themselves as the better team.If the match had have gone into Extra time,who knows what would have happened.

I really can't see where you're coming from here Blackbelt. Birr beat the reigning all Ireland champions to get to the final. I'd say that was close enough to proving yourself. I feel sorry for Boden but such is life. Winning your first ever county championship is an achievement, nevermind losing by the narrowest of margins against one of the most successful clubs in Ireland. Boden will come back stronger after this, just hopefully not too strong!

I don't have any vested interest in the rest of the hurling championship but I'd like to see the best team in Ireland win and for me, that's Portumna.

blackbelt

An Citeog wrote: »

I really can't see where you're coming from here Blackbelt. Birr beat the reigning all Ireland champions to get to the final. I'd say that was close enough to proving yourself. I feel sorry for Boden but such is life. Winning your first ever county championship is an achievement, nevermind losing by the narrowest of margins against one of the most successful clubs in Ireland. Boden will come back stronger after this, just hopefully not too strong!

I don't have any vested interest in the rest of the hurling championship but I'd like to see the best team in Ireland win and for me, that's Portumna.

I'd agree with the Portumna verdict but I feel very strongly for Ballyboden.They should have got a draw at least.Birr beating last years champions is the same argument Boden have because Boden proved themselves good enough to be there in the final too.

The circumstances of their defeat is sad.They trained so hard and beat a team they were not expected to beat and got further than expected only to be robbed by a wrong decision.

Is it credible that Birr are in the semi finals when the result is doubtful?I can only hope that things even themselves out and Birr don't get the decisions on the next day out.

An Citeog

blackbelt wrote: »

I'd agree with the Portumna verdict but I feel very strongly for Ballyboden.They should have got a draw at least.Birr beating last years champions is the same argument Boden have because Boden proved themselves good enough to be there in the final too.

The circumstances of their defeat is sad.They trained so hard and beat a team they were not expected to beat and got further than expected only to be robbed by a wrong decision.

Is it credible that Birr are in the semi finals when the result is doubtful?I can only hope that things even themselves out and Birr don't get the decisions on the next day out.

It's not Birr's fault that they got the decisions. I'm sure Boden have gotten some dodgy decisions during the championship aswell. Would you be saying the same thing if the tables were turned and it was Boden who were in the semis? Would you be up for Dunloy, for the sake of fairness and all that?

premierstone

An Citeog wrote: »

It's not Birr's fault that they got the decisions. I'm sure Boden have gotten some dodgy decisions during the championship aswell. Would you be saying the same thing if the tables were turned and it was Boden who were in the semis? Would you be up for Dunloy, for the sake of fairness and all that?

Exactly, well said citeog : Birr cannot be held accountable for the decisions that went against Boden

blackbelt

When I come to think of it,Camross were apparently robbed by a decision against them that could have drawn them that game against Boden.

Maybe,it was Bodens turn to pay.Still,I think it was unfair.I don't really like Offaly or any team in Offaly,so my opinion still stands.;)

Up the Dun.:D

blackbelt

Nah,scrap that.I'm just bitter that they went out in that fashion.Nothing against Birr/Offaly.:p

premierstone

blackbelt wrote: »

Nah,scrap that.I'm just bitter that they went out in that fashion.Nothing against Birr/Offaly.:p

We all gathered that blackbelt but in fairness i think if it was my club or any club from Tipp i would probably feel the same, just hope that boden use this injustice as a spur next year and attempt to prove to everyone exactly how good they are and on another note Conal Keaney is a far better hurler than a footballer IMO and a huge loss to the inter county scene (as is Shane Ryan but seen as he has Tipp conections this hardly comes as a suprise )

blackbelt

premierstone wrote: »

We all gathered that blackbelt but in fairness i think if it was my club or any club from Tipp i would probably feel the same, just hope that boden use this injustice as a spur next year and attempt to prove to everyone exactly how good they are and on another note Conal Keaney is a far better hurler than a footballer IMO and a huge loss to the inter county scene (as is Shane Ryan but seen as he has Tipp conections this hardly comes as a suprise )

Up the Vins.

blackbelt

premierstone wrote: »

We all gathered that blackbelt but in fairness i think if it was my club or any club from Tipp i would probably feel the same, just hope that boden use this injustice as a spur next year and attempt to prove to everyone exactly how good they are and on another note Conal Keaney is a far better hurler than a footballer IMO and a huge loss to the inter county scene (as is Shane Ryan but seen as he has Tipp conections this hardly comes as a suprise )

Never saw Shane Ryan play hurling but heard he is good.

Anyway,I really don't care who wins the hurling now.Invested interest in that is gone now but I will be there 17th March hopefully with St Vincents in the final.

Can you imagine St Vincents playing Crossmaglen in the final.That would be a real treat.

An Citeog

premierstone wrote: »

We all gathered that blackbelt but in fairness i think if it was my club or any club from Tipp i would probably feel the same, just hope that boden use this injustice as a spur next year and attempt to prove to everyone exactly how good they are and on another note Conal Keaney is a far better hurler than a footballer IMO and a huge loss to the inter county scene (as is Shane Ryan but seen as he has Tipp conections this hardly comes as a suprise )

blackbelt wrote: »

Up the Vins.

If you're that bad when Boden lose, I can't imagine what you'll be like if Vinnies are knocked out!

There are quite a few decent hurlers on the Dublin football panel. Apart from Keaney and Ryan, David Henry and Cluxton are meant to be decent, as is Mossy Quinn whose father manages the Vincent's senior hurlers. Diarmuid Connolly is another one who had to turn down the Dublin hurlers in favour of football.

Bogger77

Strangely enough, having been at the match, there was a point given as one, that was wide, as for the 45. It's nothing to do with the guys at the end line, the ball was out of play before either touched it.
Wasn't a good day for Hurling, pitch wasn't cut fit to host a rugby match. Referee and the umpires were sh1te.
As much as you can call the umpires bad, it was fairly obvious that the referee wasn't going to give any 50:50's to the Offaly team. Towards the end, Keaney should have been sent for 2 yellow card offences. Immediately after been given a yellow, he threw away the hurl of a Birr player, and was given a free against, should have been a 2nd yellow, following the rules.

And, just to note, Birr aren't one of the most sucessful club teams, they are the most successful Club team in Leinster, and with 4 All Irelands, are most successful in Ireland. They have one of the smallest area's to pick from in Offaly.

Blackbelt's attitude is exactly why pretty every county wants Dublin to lose in matches. The spoilt, we lost so I'm going against them sums up Dublin gaa in so many many ways. Over the last couple of years, and this year in the football, Dublin teams manage to have home advantage, strange that. Last year in the semi's, Birr and Ballyhale played in P'laoise. From my memory, yesterday was the First time, Birr had a home semi or final, and the first time in the Leinster Club that they didn't have to travel to Parnell Park to play a Dublin team.

premierstone

blackbelt wrote: »

Can you imagine St Vincents playing Crossmaglen in the final.That would be a real treat.

The only way that Vincents would win this game is if Oisin McConville decided to put all his money on Vincents and conveniently forgot how to play football

p.s. Crossmaglen dont lose finals

An Citeog

Bogger77 wrote: »

Strangely enough, having been at the match, there was a point given as one, that was wide, as for the 45. It's nothing to do with the guys at the end line, the ball was out of play before either touched it.
Wasn't a good day for Hurling, pitch wasn't cut fit to host a rugby match. Referee and the umpires were sh1te.
As much as you can call the umpires bad, it was fairly obvious that the referee wasn't going to give any 50:50's to the Offaly team. Towards the end, Keaney should have been sent for 2 yellow card offences. Immediately after been given a yellow, he threw away the hurl of a Birr player, and was given a free against, should have been a 2nd yellow, following the rules.

And, just to note, Birr aren't one of the most sucessful club teams, they are the most successful Club team in Leinster, and with 4 All Irelands, are most successful in Ireland. They have one of the smallest area's to pick from in Offaly.

Blackbelt's attitude is exactly why pretty every county wants Dublin to lose in matches. The spoilt, we lost so I'm going against them sums up Dublin gaa in so many many ways. Over the last couple of years, and this year in the football, Dublin teams manage to have home advantage, strange that. Last year in the semi's, Birr and Ballyhale played in P'laoise. From my memory, yesterday was the First time, Birr had a home semi or final, and the first time in the Leinster Club that they didn't have to travel to Parnell Park to play a Dublin team.

There there Bogger, settle down!

Wasn't sure whether or not Birr were the most successful club but now I've been informed. Fair play to Birr on their win and best of luck in the rest of the championship.

And your point regarding Dublin bias?

An Citeog

premierstone wrote: »

The only way that Vincents would win this game is if Oisin McConville decided to put all his money on Vincents and conveniently forgot how to play football

p.s. Crossmaglen dont lose finals

Shush you, we'll have no more negativity in this thread!

There's still a long way to go before Vincents or Cross can even think about the final.

Bogger77

An Citeog wrote: »

There there Bogger, settle down!

Wasn't sure whether or not Birr were the most successful club but now I've been informed. Fair play to Birr on their win and best of luck in the rest of the championship.

And your point regarding Dublin bias?

Dublin club teams rarely have to travel down the country, getting more and more like the inter-county championship

blackbelt

Bogger77 wrote: »

Dublin club teams rarely have to travel down the country, getting more and more like the inter-county championship

You really do take the cake.Boden played two home matches and one away ie The Provincial Final.Vincents played 2 home matches and one away (a replay) and the deal was that they'd also play their quarter and semi final at home and forego home advantage for their final.

Now,Vincents will have the final at home due to Moorefield and Dromards actions.Nothing to do with bias in the hierarchy.

As for the intercounty championship,Croke Park is not the home of Dublin football,its Parnell Park.Had you realised this,you wouldn't post that tripe.

Nalced_irl

So at the risk of getting suspended, aptly named bogger is the guy you spoke about bb? Firstly he talks about the "45" that Boden should have had...i dont think i need to correct you...if i do it says it all! To be honest your attitude says it all. I have nothing against Birr and im a Boden member and a Dubliner, but i think they are lucky to have gotten through. Boden should be there as i think they were the better team on the day and also some decisions went against them. Im not gonna bitch and moan about them, the score is the score at the end of the day, but cos bb isnt supporting them it has to be because a Dublin team got beaten by em? Plus i might add that bb is a Vinnies man who are huge rivals with Boden in Dublin, not that you would know that in your little hole of jelousy and bitterness. Get over yourself and bring your playground whinging to hoganstand, i hear they like it there.

PS. I would say playing a Leinster Final at home is a pretty big advantage. You just havent a clue. CUMON DUNLOY!!! I wouldnt have a preference but now i do. btw, Dunloy are the other team playing in case you cant see out of your chamber of emotional bitterness.

Nalced_irl

blackbelt wrote: »

You really do take the cake.Boden played two home matches and one away ie The Provincial Final.Vincents played 2 home matches and one away (a replay) and the deal was that they'd also play their quarter and semi final at home and forego home advantage for their final.

Now,Vincents will have the final at home due to Moorefield and Dromards actions.Nothing to do with bias in the hierarchy.

As for the intercounty championship,Croke Park is not the home of Dublin football,its Parnell Park.Had you realised this,you wouldn't post that tripe.

Havent seen this guys name before and id doubt a GAA ground has seen him either tbh. Another blow in to stir up chit i think. Just a quote from him: "Birr aren't one of the most sucessful club teams, they are the most successful Club team in Leinster, and with 4 All Irelands, are most successful in Ireland".........Ok, they arent the most successful but are the most successful in Leinster and Ireland????? What the bloody hell are you on about?!?!? Is this OhNoYouDidnt in disguise???? You have just contradicted yourself more in one post than anyone else here has in their lives. BTW from wikipedia: "Birr (Offaly) and Ballyhale Shamrocks (Co Kilkenny) are the most successful teams, each having won the All-Ireland Club Championship on 4 occasions." Just so you know its not just Dubs that think your point is complete rubbish! Plus the comment about the should have been 45, wrong sport! My advice, learn the sport, eat that chip on your shoulder altho it may be out of date now and then come back and make us laugh some more!

PS. hope what im saying doesnt deserve a ban. About time people started pulling up idiotic posts for what they are. The amount of stupidity in that post cannot be sidestepped!

blackbelt

Sorry Nalced,I must correct this individual for his own sake and to further support the idea of pulling up ridiculous posts.

Bogger,45 is football and it is a 65 in hurling.If you were a GAA fan you'd realise this.

Also,Dublin not travelling for the I-C Championship.The last time we travelled down was against Longford in 2006.The GAA sell out Croke Park with Dublin playing.We are their cash cow.They are hardly going to stick us down the country and forego a big payday unless the opposition appeals it strongly such as the case was with Longford.

I don't hear of any county appealing for home advantage rather than a big day out against the Dubs too such as your own county,Offaly.Its all about supply and demand.Its been years since Dublin played a championship match in Parnell Park.

Please come back when you actually have a strong argument without the baggage.As Nalced pointed out,I'm a St Vincents man.Big rivals with Ballyboden St Endas.However,I'll support any Dublin team in the club Championship whether its Boden,Kilmacud Crokes,Na Fianna,Thomas Davis or Ballymun Kickhams.

I think Camross were robbed a draw against Boden,extra time should have been played in that match as Camross legitimately scored a point to level the match.They also have a claim to a place in the final just as Boden have for the semi-final.I'd rather see a team who I know deserve their place without any shadow of a doubt than a team who are there with a dubious decision surrounding their last match.

So there are three teams who can claim they should be there.Camross,Ballyboden and Birr.TBH,some of the decisions have been ridiculous and Cam and Boden have been the victims of this.

Leave your typical view of Dublin GAA and fans at the door.Given the state of Offaly GAA,you are hardly in a position to throw stones from your glass house.

Examples being,playing and losing a competitive match against Dublin in front of a soldout Croke Park in a Leinster Final in 2006 to being knocked out in Aughrim by Wicklow in the semi-final of the Tommy Murphy Cup in front of 6,000.

Just wreaks of bitterness.May I add the publicised drinking by players behind Pat Roes back.