night skirmishes

Foxy-07

does hrta hav any night skirmishes
because i tink it would make ting interesting

Fallschirmjager

bawhahaha...wipes tears from eyes...

foxy prepare thyself for a full on keyboard assault.


i tink u ned 2 lern 2 typ...

N.O.I.P.

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

bawhahaha...wipes tears from eyes...

foxy prepare thyself for a full on keyboard assault.


i tink u ned 2 lern 2 typ...

Play nice Fall, clearly he is only using a trial-version keyboard and he used up all the H's before the last line

Fallschirmjager

N.O.I.P. wrote: »

Play nice Fall, clearly he is only using a trial-version keyboard and he used up all the H's before the last line

lol...


as for the question foxy, this is currently been discussed on some of the other threads so you might want to have a look around..but if you are looking for a quick answer, hrta opens until after dark in the winter afternoons..

Masada

night time HRTA would be great., yor spelin pistakes ar exkused;)

Foxy-07

sorry bout the spelling got a good excuse but not gtn in to it

Masada

Foxy-07 wrote: »

sorry bout the spelling got a good excuse but not gtn in to it

spilled fanta on your keyboard? removed some of the keys and sold them on ebay to fund your airsoft?

just kiddin with ya,.,

gandalf

Oh god txt speak!!!! Someone please stop the txt speak !!!!

Arcto

vtec wrote: »

night time HRTA would be great., yor spelin pistakes ar exkused;)

I dunno, it could go either way. Be class being all stealthy in the dark but have you ever tried to hit something with an aeg in the total dark?

No city lights around hrta!

Still give it a go though...

Cuddlesworth

Hmm, it might give me a excuse to buy a gen 2 night vision sight and not the VFC mk43 off of Shiva.

Masada

I think i can borrow a pair of night vision goggles go that would be me sorted.,

Corega

What's the dealy with tracer pellets, do MIA or Eirsoft stock them? Have seen a few vids of those things and they look brilliant, they do tend to give your position away though.

NakedDex

Mentioned this over on the other thread, a game where those with NVG hunted down without would be an interesting idea. Taking down a compound in the dead of night with NVG on would be a difficult task. NVG restrict field of vision a lot which would be balance advantages somewhat with those without

ED E

Corega wrote: »

What's the dealy with tracer pellets, do MIA or Eirsoft stock them? Have seen a few vids of those things and they look brilliant, they do tend to give your position away though.

Have to oder them from china/us. Shipping = Nightmare. And the units seem to be hard to come by though making one would not be hard.

Fallschirmjager

well the units, if you mean the g&P illuminated mags are not hard at all...ehobby has them for 25 or so dollars...you are right on the rounds, they are in smaller amounts, altho i see ebaybanned is selling 8000 for 75 dollars...i might give that a go. the issue is if they are low quality the effect is very poor...


270189000970 on ebay....sorry it around the 30 dollar mark

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Falls would their be even a slight effect in relatively normal daylight?

Fallschirmjager

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Falls would their be even a slight effect in relatively normal daylight?

well if you have the good ones and i have tested a few types now they would be brighter then a white bb but dont expect laser green colour...G&G and the TM ones seem to be the best i have tried.
a dark day would give the effect, late afternnon definitely...at night its like a friggen laser beam....makes you realise how many round 10-12 a second is!!

scope if i get a chance tomorrow i will take a pic or 2 to see..

i should be there saturday -- if you are and have an m4, i will load a mag and you can see...they are doing a ak mag with it now.

i have the plans for a silencer model i am working on -- well i say plan, its kinda obvious...6 or 8 uv leds fitted into a silencer, forced into the wall of the silencer with the tension from a small plastic bottle to ensure they dont interfere with the bb flight path (or fitted into the sponge), with resistors soldered to allow me attach to the aeg battery...failing that an ordinary 9v definitely works. i think the only issue is if the bb is travelling so fast that it doesnt get enough uv light to activate the colour, hence the number of them, so i might have to try and angle a uv led into the barrel somehow...i am sure i could do the maths, 328fps / length of silencer might give a rough estimate (looking at that calc..jeeze its not long at all)..


edit 2: that silencer and the mag might work in coordination..the failure with the g&P mags, is any bb's in the hopup chamber, i.e the ones that are released from the mag before firing loose the effect, so occasional single fire doesnt work with the mag, you need to do burst fire, which of course is what you want to do anyways, but even the bursts need to be regular, hence the silencer. that was the benefit the TM silencer had over the mag..and TM dont make them anymore

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scope if i get a chance tomorrow i will take a pic or 2 to see.

Cool, thanks Falls id appreciate that.

Methinks ill have to set up me Ak drum for tracers

Fallschirmjager

[--SC(+)PE--] wrote: »

Cool, thanks Falls id appreciate that.

Methinks ill have to set up me Ak drum for tracers

well that might be easier...i got the uv leds off ebay, they are bugger all..check for uv led or blacklight...the more powerful the better...they use minute amounts of battery power....the nearest to the exit on the mag the better

i did read someplace that you should leave the light reactive ones out in the sun all day before a match...that way they energise that all they need is a refresher blast to reactivate...cant remember where i read that, it could have been here and if thats the case we might have a real expert among us...you know who you are!!!

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could ya give us a link to the ones you got, im fairly uneducated when it comes to UV and the like

Fallschirmjager

[--SC(+)PE--] wrote: »

could ya give us a link to the ones you got, im fairly uneducated when it comes to UV and the like

the leds i assume you mean
170170962879 these are 3mm ones there are 5mm ones also but i think smaller is better for my silencer but for your mag idea you might get away with 5mm. the mcd rating is their brightness (well thats my uneducated view anyways). those have a resistor attached for 12v for the hoodies driving the 1982 starlets with big exhausts....as in you can wire it to your car battery. from memory they will work with a 9v battery except they wont be as bright as they can be....now i say memory because i have had these uv leds for a while. soldering a new resistor is simple, just put a heatsink before the led bulb to stop the soldering iron transferring the heat to the bulb and blowing it...heat sink to you and me is a pliers for example, anything that will stop the heat..again from memory there are 2 wires a long one and a shorter one, i think you solder to the longer one BUT AND I SAY BUT AGAIN, you will have to google that for the correct answer as i am so old my memory is going. get the batch of 20. there is always 1 or 2 that wont work, 1or 2 you will blow, 1 or 2 you will snap the wire on....so 20 should be more then enough to let you play and not worry.

or get them in a batch of 50 either...to get the right resistor, they work on the colour bands calculating up to the level they are at (AGAIN from memory), best check google as well for that. they sound difficult i can assure you they are not. you can get the resistors in maplins or ebay either they are as cheap as chips. also the leds last for friggen ever...well they will last longer then you aeg at any rate...dont believe the 100,00 hours that total is a steaming pile of hooey...but you would easily get 3-5 years out of them...

if you need anything more dude...give us a shout..or if we have an electrical engineer here...feel free to correct me..

one final thing, dont forget to heat shrink them or tape them up as the bare metal on the leds will short them out.

Fallschirmjager

jeeze they seem to do very powerful ones now...before you order we need someone who knows photo reactive materials here. i think it was Rew that said UV was not any better then say white light....now the reason i say this is they are doing extrmely bright white led's and if they work just as well...the brighter they are the stronger the reaction will be with the bb....

for example 160181904687...now the downside here is my silencerer would look like a friggen spotlight LOL....but it might be better in your magazine..

Masada

god i didnt think UV would be better than white light but i just tried it on my watch and ive never seen it glow so brightly., defo UV is better for glow in the dark.,

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very informative stuff their, thanks Falls, i had a quick peak inside my drum and it might be a little more difficult to do then say the m4 mag used in the example. the bb's dont feed like a standard mag but rather they feed through a strange coiled tube [cant get any pictures sorry] Ill give it a go at some stage anyway but the led would probably have to be placed quite a bit away from the top of the mag.

Fallschirmjager

[--SC(+)PE--] wrote: »

very informative stuff their, thanks Falls, i had a quick peak inside my drum and it might be a little more difficult to do then say the m4 mag used in the example. the bb's dont feed like a standard mag but rather they feed through a strange coiled tube [cant get any pictures sorry] Ill give it a go at some stage anyway but the led would probably have to be placed quite a bit away from the top of the mag.

is there anyway you could replace it with a transparent one?


and thanks for the info vtec, good to know

conor-mr2

Posted this in another thread but it seems to be relevant here also.
How to build a tracer mag
http://unconventional-airsoft.com/2007/11/19/tracer-unit-built-into-magazine/

Fallschirmjager

Conor-Mr2 wrote: »

Posted this in another thread but it seems to be relevant here also.
How to build a tracer mag
http://unconventional-airsoft.com/2007/11/19/tracer-unit-built-into-magazine/

as did i..

http://bravo.imakeprojects.com/projects/tracer-magazine/


looks like someone on one website is replicating someone else work on the other, even the pics are the same...LOL

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is there anyway you could replace it with a transparent one?

dont think so, Its hard to explain without pics but im sure i could figure out something once i get my Led's

MaxForce

Foxy-07 wrote: »

does hrta hav any night skirmishes
because i tink it would make ting interesting

we will be organizing night time games from march on wards as the weather gets better and we will be suppling camping facilities and there is b and b just up the road from us so we will have weekend games to we will announce near the time regards Evelyn

Gatling

Fairplay Mr and Mrs. Maxforce , thats just what we been looking for

nonex

Foxy-07 wrote: »

does hrta hav any night skirmishes
because i tink it would make ting interesting

every weekend there,s a night skirmish for the last hour of day.

Fallschirmjager

anyone know a good silencer for an m4 that is longish and i can unscrew and open to remove or access the sponge like material?

sorry i am not too knowledgeable on silencers...

kdouglas

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

anyone know a good silencer for an m4 that is longish and i can unscrew and open to remove or access the sponge like material?

sorry i am not too knowledgeable on silencers...

Completely off-topic but the TM Socom silencer that comes with the P90 TR and the Socom Mk23 is decent and IMO looks quite good on an m4 (if you like m4's with silencers), it's also very easy to open and remove the foam from, the foam inside is in 4 seperate sections

Fallschirmjager

kdouglas wrote: »

Completely off-topic but the TM Socom silencer that comes with the P90 TR and the Socom Mk23 is decent and IMO looks quite good on an m4 (if you like m4's with silencers), it's also very easy to open and remove the foam from, the foam inside is in 4 seperate sections

thanks kd, i might give one of them a whirl. was reading over on arnies about a guy who modified his hopup with a uv led..very smart way of doing it. quite by accident he mentioned that a silencer would not be able to charge the bb due to the time it spends in the silencer, a bit like what i said above. i might try and give it a whirl anyways with a tm silencer..

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The troy style silencers look really good and its the same deal with the foam on the inside. Rsov and i think Eirosft have them aswell.

Fallschirmjager

if anyone has a silencer, a largish one, would you mind measuing the distance from the hole (for want of a better word) to the edge, i need to see how much space i have to play with to get an led in there..if its less then 4mm i am screwed..

edit: no worries-- have thought of another test before i start this

Corega

Thanks for clearing that up lads, all the same I think I'd rather go for the real deal Tokyo Marui tracer unit rather than chopping up my magazine. I'm sure it would work fine if it was done by someone else, but I have a reputation for being slightly clumsy. Seriously, watching me tripping up on the rugby pitch was a favourite past time of my peers, wonder how I'll manage on the airsoft pitch....

hoplite

Corega wrote: »

Thanks for clearing that up lads, all the same I think I'd rather go for the real deal Tokyo Marui tracer unit rather than chopping up my magazine. I'm sure it would work fine if it was done by someone else, but I have a reputation for being slightly clumsy. Seriously, watching me tripping up on the rugby pitch was a favourite past time of my peers, wonder how I'll manage on the airsoft pitch....

TM tracers seem to be out of stock everywhere I look anybody know where to get one?

Fallschirmjager

Corega wrote: »

Thanks for clearing that up lads, all the same I think I'd rather go for the real deal Tokyo Marui tracer unit rather than chopping up my magazine. I'm sure it would work fine if it was done by someone else, but I have a reputation for being slightly clumsy. Seriously, watching me tripping up on the rugby pitch was a favourite past time of my peers, wonder how I'll manage on the airsoft pitch....

tell you what, you go have a look and find a tm one and let us know how you get on?

Gatling

TM tracer unit good luck with that , considering they stopped making them might pick one up 2nd hand or on ebay if your very lucky

hoplite

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

tell you what, you go have a look and find a tm one and let us know how you get on?

I've got a troy M4 silencer coming from Shiva so I'd be interested to hear how you get on with your LED project.

Fallschirmjager

hoplite wrote: »

I've got a troy M4 silencer coming from Shiva so I'd be interested to hear how you get on with your LED project.

well i have a cunning plan to test it...if i just strap then temporarily to a flash hider and see to they ignite....well then i will build the silencer unit...

Cuddlesworth

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

...if i just strap then temporarily to a flash hider and see to they ignite....

Would a quick squirt of lighter fluid into the mag and and lit flame on the flash hider not create the same effect?

Fallschirmjager

krazy_8s wrote: »

Would a quick squirt of lighter fluid into the mag and and lit flame on the flash hider not create the same effect?

good idea, you give that a go and let us know from the hospital how you get on..:D

hoplite

Fallschirmjager wrote: »

well i have a cunning plan to test it...if i just strap then temporarily to a flash hider and see to they ignite....well then i will build the silencer unit...

Sounds like a plan

Fallschirmjager

well some bad news. the first test with one uv led was a dismal failure.

i will try and solder up 6 or 7 of them tomorrow for test 2 tomorrow night. in fact if i can get some plastic pipe to simulate a silencer i will give that a go as a temporary measure..as it might also reflect some of the light..


edit: tried with 4 leds, not good , i may need to get more powerful uv leds from ebay but i suspect the issue is as has always been the concern, the amount of time in the silencer.

Fallschirmjager

just ordered the brightest leds i can get in UV from ebay as the ones i had were not good enough..

also i found this -- there are a variety of these types of solutions out there but this has the best pictures i have found so far. there is also a chap on arnies doing the same, except a bit more exotic.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=4445.0

again i think a uv led would be better then a white led.