Pro Evo 2008 on xbox live

hanton12

Just a couple of questions for those of you who are playing this regularily on live. I played I think maybe 2 games, quit one and just about finished the other. The lag was terrible and I had to play against Barca both times.

1. Has the lag been sorted yet? The first game I had was a disgrace. Second was bad, but just about playable. But no comparison to the smoothness of PES6

2. Are there still gob****es who keep picking Inter, Brazil, Barca? Nothing worse than coming up against a player and you their previous 5 teams are all one of the above. Pity they cant have an online loby for mixed teams, ie a player who likes varying his selection and picking random teams. Absolutely hated that in PES6 and was probable the main reason I gave up playing it. Even in non ranked games it was happening.

Fingleberries

Haven't even tried yet - but Konami were supposed to be releasing a patch / title update for this yesterday (19 November). I haven't seen any updates being installed yet when I launch the game, so I'm not sure if it's just their servers they were planning to update.


I think Winning Eleven blog say it's not out yet.

Of course people will still keep picking Inter, Brazil, Barca (and Man U). There are less Achievements for winning on Live this time around, so it mightn't be as bad. But that's more like blind optimism than anything else.

hanton12

played a couple of games last night against a friend online and it was brutal. Lag was still there. not so bad it was unplayable, but still really bad that it made a joke of the games. one free kick he took hit the wall, and then suddenly was in the goal. So pi$$ed off with this.

event

yeah the lag is still there

its a bloody disgrace

Mr Moon

It has improved a good bit, still nowhere near the fluency as PES6 but I can get through a game with only slight lag now!!

I think about 18 of my last 20 played matches are against Barca!! :rolleyes:

Unearthly

Atleast Barcelona have good players in real life, it was inexcusable last year making a random player like Adriano good at football.

Josey Wales

Unearthly wrote: »

it was inexcusable last year making a random player like Adriano good at football.

What planet have you been living on? Adriano is just some random player?

He has 25 goals in only 37 appearances for Brazil and back in the 2004/05 season he scored 40 goals in all competitions so no wonder they made him good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Leite_Ribeiro

Unearthly

Josey Wales wrote: »

What planet have you been living on? Adriano is just some random player?

He has 25 goals in only 37 appearances for Brazil and back in the 2004/05 season he scored 40 goals in all competitions so no wonder they made him good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Leite_Ribeiro

Sorry, I thought we were living in 2007, nearly 2008

Thanks for telling me it's 2004

Josey Wales

Unearthly wrote: »

Sorry, I thought we were living in 2007, nearly 2008

Thanks for telling me it's 2004

Just checked my original post and I don't see where it states that it is 2004. I was just pointing out that when they would have been developing the game and looking for a player to use on the cover Adriano would have been the form player at the time.

Unearthly

No he wasn't, he had 1 good season in 2004/2005

The game was released a few months into the season 2006/2007 where he was crap for almost a year and a half.

He is still crap today

If he was English he would be laughed at but because he is Brazilian he must be worldclass eh

Helix

Josey Wales wrote: »

What planet have you been living on? Adriano is just some random player?

He has 25 goals in only 37 appearances for Brazil and back in the 2004/05 season he scored 40 goals in all competitions so no wonder they made him good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Leite_Ribeiro

have you not watched a football match since the 2004/05 season or something?

Josey Wales

Of course I have. I was just pointing out that he is not some random nobody. Not any player can get those kind of stats.

Did I mention anywhere that he is still a quality player?

givyjoe81

Josey Wales wrote: »

Of course I have. I was just pointing out that he is not some random nobody. Not any player can get those kind of stats.

Did I mention anywhere that he is still a quality player?

Well he was a random player by the time the last pro evo was made, i seen him score one freak goal in real life, JUST ONE, of the stupid goals he consistenly scored in Pro evo 6. He was never any use, he scored a good few goals for parma one year.. didnt mutu do the same once?! He's a fat pig not an ox.. Sure he was offered to bleeding west ham, ya dont become a bad player overnight, he was always sh-it-e..

Oh and so what if he scored 25 odd goals for brazil, lets take david healy for example, who has scored more for Northern Muck, which is the more impressive feat? Dont see him scoring pile drivers in pro evo.

Josey Wales

givyjoe81 wrote: »

lets take david healy for example, who has scored more for Northern Muck, which is the more impressive feat? Dont see him scoring pile drivers in pro evo.

Maybe your just not good enough at Pro Evo.

givyjoe81

Josey Wales wrote: »

Maybe your just not good enough at Pro Evo.

Ha, normally i wouldnt lower myself to such an excuse for a team but did so online last week for the laugh.. I wasnt smiling for long i can tell you that.. Did beat the chap 3-2 though, not bad considering he picked ivory coast..;)

Josey Wales

I've ended up using teams like N. Ireland on Live because sometimes I use the random select to pick teams, so I can image the struggle that must have been. Every player being so slow with the turning circle of an oil tanker.

Still it makes a change from everybody being Barcelona.

hanton12

Last night I switched on the xbox to see an update message online. So after the quick download, I played an online game. It wasnt too bad, but it still wasnt fully right. Ended up losing the game on penalties, after Adriano had ran the length of the pitch and shot from 30 yards and scorched past the keeper in the last minute of the game to equalise. Have played 3 games online now, 2 against Inter, one against Barca. So the same crap looks like its still happening with team selections (I have played as Liverpool, Athletico Madrid and Valencia in the 3 games)

kaimera

Only played two games on XBL; one ranked, one unranked.

Ranked game, he picked Barca :-/ Lag was ****ing horrible and I hate ****ers that just do that ****ty pull back across the box for a tap in the whole time :mad: Lost 3-1.

Unranked, Arse v Liv. Played since the update, still laggy, lost 3-2 in the last minute but I did manage to plant a peach of a free kick with Gerrard after 2 mins [there's no way to save replays on Live?]

I really need to work on my shooting one.on.one with the keeper. It's horrible how many chances I do miss

Just from those two games, I'm really not convinced about it on XBL. Don't have a second controller [or a guy to play against] yet so sp for me.

dmigsy

Lag has been much improved for me since the update. I'm starting to enjoy playing the game.

There's not much you can do to stop people picking Barca, Inter, Brazil etc. An achievement for playing a Live match with every team would have been good to promote variety.

It is possible to save highlights on Live if you go into "Highlights" at the end of the match. You're given the option then to hit X to save the goal you're watching.

hanton12

I've still only played a couple of games on live as even tho the lag is better, its still not right. can be still glitchy and stuttering. I've found now that I select who I play too online, and will only pick a player who has a varience on his teams in his last 5 played and who hasnt picked one of the big 3. I dont mind players who pick Man Utd as much.

mise

Was there another update last night? Think ive gotten 2 in the last couple of days

evad_lhorg

I have had to update a few times recently. same with guitar hero. it seems anytime I play another game after updating pes it deletes itself or somethin

hanton12

well mine just got worse again anyway, didnt think it possible. Tried play 2 games last night, first was brutal and the other guy quit, second was an absolute joke. I lost 2-1. I actually scored 4 goals, but only 3 counted. On 2 of them, I scored a goal, but then a few seconds after I got a free kick and a penalty. Then the fecking penalty glitched and scuttered down the middle of the goal and was saved. The other goal I got was a pull back and ball rifled in, or so I thought. After it hit the net it jumped to the far end of the pitch.

Its my own fault for still going back to it, but fcuk this, why pay money for something that doesnt work?

Here is the classic first goal my opponent scored last night, I had no chance of stopping it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKn3U2vy1ZQ

Peyton Manning

Well, as I pointed out in the Xbox forum, my brother shocked me by giving me his Xbox so tomorrow Im straight into town to get Pro Evo for it. Has the lag been fixed yet?

hanton12

Archimedes wrote: »

Well, as I pointed out in the Xbox forum, my brother shocked me by giving me his Xbox so tomorrow Im straight into town to get Pro Evo for it. Has the lag been fixed yet?

have a look at the youtube clip above of a game I played last week. That will answer your question!

irishpartyboy

I've only just got PES 2008 and the lag I've experienced is disgraceful, unplayable. Your attacking one minute, 2 seconds later the ball is up the other end of the park in your net.

I'm using Eircom BB 1mb download / 128k upload. Tested via wireless & cabled. I never had any issues playing PES 6.

Disgruntled to say the least.

B

pesireland

yeah i agree with all of the above, Konami have made a mess of online for pes2008, but tbh i find PS3 online is smoother that xbox360 which i find very strange.

Im no fan boy and own both consoles, acutally i prefer the 360 to my xbox as online is better and also more user friendly, but imo PES runs smoother on PS3.

Anyone any thoughts.

Also there also some offical pesrankings online leagues that i am now taking sign ups for if you are interested and will stay active please visit the link in my signiture.

Peyton Manning

Do Konami have any plans to fix the lag?

Unearthly

Archimedes wrote: »

Do Konami have any plans to fix the lag?

They have already released patches to attempt to fix but they have done sweet FA

Looks like to me they won't fix it

Lord Spence

Any update on a fix for this game yet I have stuck with PES6 until konami get there act together.

claiva

irishpartyboy wrote: »

I've only just got PES 2008 and the lag I've experienced is disgraceful, unplayable. Your attacking one minute, 2 seconds later the ball is up the other end of the park in your net.

I'm using Eircom BB 1mb download / 128k upload. Tested via wireless & cabled. I never had any issues playing PES 6.

Disgruntled to say the least.

B

I agree...it is very bad but I don't think a 1mb connection is sufficient ?
I'm on 2mb and it's just about playable....unless I play Partyboy......
then it sucks

irishpartyboy

claiva wrote: »

I agree...it is very bad but I don't think a 1mb connection is sufficient ?
I'm on 2mb and it's just about playable....unless I play Partyboy......
then it sucks

As stated, had NO issues playing PES 6 online previously. Maybe it's your english BB Claiva.

claiva

Interesting thoughts there dude.
My BB is with UTV, but they just lease the line from Eircom so that shouldn't be an issue.
It's fine other games such as Halo etc.
I'm playin Assasins Creed at the moment which is awesome.

apmsystems

hanton12 wrote: »

Just a couple of questions for those of you who are playing this regularily on live. I played I think maybe 2 games, quit one and just about finished the other. The lag was terrible and I had to play against Barca both times.

1. Has the lag been sorted yet? The first game I had was a disgrace. Second was bad, but just about playable. But no comparison to the smoothness of PES6

2. Are there still gob****es who keep picking Inter, Brazil, Barca? Nothing worse than coming up against a player and you their previous 5 teams are all one of the above. Pity they cant have an online loby for mixed teams, ie a player who likes varying his selection and picking random teams. Absolutely hated that in PES6 and was probable the main reason I gave up playing it. Even in non ranked games it was happening.

ive given up because of lag ,but i always stick to one team no harm in that

Jerichoholic

Is there a way to play 2 player co-op on xbox live?

apmsystems

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Is there a way to play 2 player co-op on xbox live?

no

Unearthly

Just scored an amazing volley with Drogba against Barcelona online which made me smile on pro evo for the first time in many a month!:D

sew

lag is a bitch...but it kinda comes and goes for me, i could get a good run i could end up chucking the game out the window.... Pain in the arse when your bareing down on goal, you aim right or left and the shot still goes straight into keepers arms, and whats with the keepers diving back into goal to push the ball??

elbow316

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Is there a way to play 2 player co-op on xbox live?

Yeah, you just need to move both controller icons onto either the Home or Away side, right before you pick teams etc.

srfc1928

if upgraded to eircom 2mb would it make much difference to the lag?? on 1mb now

Fingleberries

Not really - the problem is more caused by dodgy servers and buggy coding from Konami than latency at your end.

I've seen others with 8Mb broadband still struggle with PES2008

ilovefrankee@ho

Before reading through this forum, I always thought I was the only one suffering the terrible lag! But yeah, I'm on 1mb Eircom, my PES6 ran fine but I got so sick of the lag on PES2008 I gave up around December.

Now I just play COD4

inforfun

Although not on the Xbox but PC i also have given up a few times on PES2008 on line. Still give it a go every now and then.
It is so annoying when you seem to take possesion away from your opponent trying to pass yourself out of defense only to see yourself 2 seconds later conseeding a goal.
The fact that i mostly see Italians, Spainish and portugese matchrooms doesnt help much either as in pes6 you were already in for some lag when you played them.

Pes 6 had minor issues that Konami never fixed (like your results of the last played games and overall rankings) so i would be very surprised if they are going to bother to solve this lag issue.
After all.... they sold the game, got your money and it is not that you can go to a Konami shop and start a little riot.

The only thing Konami gain with this that the next version of PEs, most people will be very hesitant to buy the game. I know i will and sofar i bought each and every version pre-launch.
It is a pity really as pes2008 gameplay suited me better than any previous version.

This is definately going to cost Konami.

sailorfoley

Does anyone know if / when konami expect (or if the even expect) to solve the issue with the lag?

hanton12

sailorfoley wrote: »

Does anyone know if / when konami expect (or if the even expect) to solve the issue with the lag?

I sent an email there a while back saying I was pi$$ed off at paying €50 for a game that wouldnt work properly and got this back:

Dear customer,

Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.

Konami Digital Entertainment has uncovered issues which affect online gameplay
quality of PES 2008. We are working at full strength to find a solution as
quickly as possible. We sincerely apologise for this inconvenience.

We can assure you that we are still working on further improvements for
PES2008.

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding,


Your Konami Support Team

Riesen_Meal

hanton12 wrote: »

I sent an email there a while back saying I was pi$$ed off at paying €50 for a game that wouldnt work properly and got this back:

Dear customer,

Thank you very much for contacting the Konami customer support team.

Konami Digital Entertainment has uncovered issues which affect online gameplay
quality of PES 2008. We are working at full strength to find a solution as
quickly as possible. We sincerely apologise for this inconvenience.

We can assure you that we are still working on further improvements for
PES2008.

Thank you very much for your patience and understanding,


Your Konami Support Team

Sounds promising, maybe a new patch in the works?

hanton12

Fieldog wrote: »

Sounds promising, maybe a new patch in the works?

woldnt be counting on it. Its out now, what, 3/4 months and they have done one patch for it, and its still sh!te. I dint expect them to come back and say, tough crap, you bought it, and thats what you got. Just a standard reply saying they are doing what they can to fix it.

Riesen_Meal

hanton12 wrote: »

woldnt be counting on it. Its out now, what, 3/4 months and they have done one patch for it, and its still sh!te. I dint expect them to come back and say, tough crap, you bought it, and thats what you got. Just a standard reply saying they are doing what they can to fix it.

I heard theres a new Ps3 v1.20 patch or something out, so if thats the case surely the 360 would get it?

Melion

Just had my first person cancel a game on me. Awful carry on really. I was Liverpool playing against Inter, went 4-0 up after about 25mins and he quit.

hanton12

Melion wrote: »

Just had my first person cancel a game on me. Awful carry on really. I was Liverpool playing against Inter, went 4-0 up after about 25mins and he quit.

get used to it! I found it extremely hard to find decent games on the last version. It would take an age to find someone who didnt play as Barca, Inter or Brazil. Makes a joke of it really, there's no skill and ability in players lumping a ball forward to Adriano to shoot from 50 yards out. So many games where I'd be beating a 'top' team with the likes of Valencia, Seville, Atletico, Liverpool, even Reading, and they'd quit. The teams I play with are still good, but there's no glitch about them like the others I mentioned.

Add my gamertag if you like, might get online soon and see if the lag has improved in any way.

Melion

hanton12 wrote: »

get used to it! I found it extremely hard to find decent games on the last version. It would take an age to find someone who didnt play as Barca, Inter or Brazil. Makes a joke of it really, there's no skill and ability in players lumping a ball forward to Adriano to shoot from 50 yards out. So many games where I'd be beating a 'top' team with the likes of Valencia, Seville, Atletico, Liverpool, even Reading, and they'd quit. The teams I play with are still good, but there's no glitch about them like the others I mentioned.

Add my gamertag if you like, might get online soon and see if the lag has improved in any way.

Whats your gamertag mate?

Its just happened again, i was beating Barca 4-1 and they quit. Was a great game and not one bit of lag, we were in the 70th minute.