The ridiculously silly off topic brainfart thread.

kona

l'certain members' of velvet revolver not given visas to play japan because of certain incidents!!!!lol just as slash released his book.
and these are the same people who allowed the crue into japan!! i think they learned their lesson after nikki sixx and tommy lee lol:D

MizzLolly

They can come to Ireland instead!! Hahaha I'll be happy to see 'em!!:D

Mushy

Yeah, when they rescheduling for Ireland? Oh, wait, let me guess...February. Everything is on then (thats worth seeing anyway).

Kess73

Would love to see them over here. Have already seen them on the current tour with Satellite Party as support. Great gig, Libertad is an awesome album live.

Motley Crue

kona wrote: »

certain members' of velvet revolver not given visas to play japan because of certain incidents!!!!

Well when they broke that smoking ban in Wales people laughed and said it was funny to see Slash pay a 50 pound fine, I suppose thats come back to bite them in the ass

Furious-Red

i was really looking forward to them when they were to play a certain gig in Marlay Park. Hope they do come back

kona

compared to the 80s stuff the band members did, i feel that VR are losing it??they are a bit overrated too.??

Mushy

kona wrote: »

compared to the 80s stuff the band members did, i feel that VR are losing it??they are a bit overrated too.??

Yeah, but then again, VR arent GnR/STP.

kona

Mushy wrote: »

Yeah, but then again, VR arent GnR/STP.

but they kinda put out the same image, bit dissapointing, i reckon they make a killing if they went all out sleaze rock tbh, big demand....no bands...hence all the old bands reforming.

Mushy

kona wrote: »

but they kinda put out the same image, bit dissapointing, i reckon they make a killing if they went all out sleaze rock tbh, big demand....no bands...hence all the old bands reforming.

Ah I do agree with you to some extent. Maybe they want to go further away from the "sleaze rock", away from their old bands, as thats what they'd be compared to even more so.

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

but they kinda put out the same image, bit dissapointing, i reckon they make a killing if they went all out sleaze rock tbh, big demand....no bands...hence all the old bands reforming.

Thats the biggest load of ball** i've heard, VR don't sound anything like Gn'r, and there image is totally changed considering they all had addictions back in the 80's and looked like tramps, there all tea leafers now all clean all sober, if anything there all chilled out and enjoying there success, if anything they have saved rock because of all this emo crap, but then again your prob still listening to bon jovi!!!!

kona

hyn-zie wrote: »

Thats the biggest load of ball** i've heard, VR don't sound anything like Gn'r, and there image is totally changed considering they all had addictions back in the 80's and looked like tramps, there all tea leafers now all clean all sober, if anything there all chilled out and enjoying there success, if anything they have saved rock because of all this emo crap, but then again your prob still listening to bon jovi!!!!

good man, listen to some music and come back in a few years when youre older than 16 with a proper opinion.:rolleyes:

oh and read the thread from the sart,where did i say VR sounded like GnR???wtf??


btw look at temple bar, emo music is saving rock and roll at the moment, i aint a 'emo'(emo was a name given describe a 80s punk band by a magazine,its just been adopted by mcr etc and then the deadheads say it mean emotional, sure deadheads are dead inside:rolleyes:), there are waaaaaaaaaaaay more emos than sleaze rock heads.
and yes im stil listening to the crue, poison, whitesnake, wasp, cinderella, skid row, warrant, faster pussycat, salty dog,...............just because its old music doesnt mean its ****, bon jovis 80s stuff is immense.
sure you prob think arctic monkeys is the height of rock and roll taste(and still an indie band, just signed to a company)
VR are sleaze rock, they drip of it, look at slash, if he was trying to get away from that image, why the hell would be launch a autobiography which is dripping with sleaze???
btw bon jovi aint sleaze rock, take a look at motley crues lyrics, thats sleaze rock.

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

good man, listen to some music and come back in a few years when youre older than 16 with a proper opinion.:rolleyes:

oh and read the thread from the sart,where did i say VR sounded like GnR???wtf??


btw look at temple bar, emo music is saving rock and roll at the moment, i aint a 'emo'(emo was a name given describe a 80s punk band by a magazine,its just been adopted by mcr etc and then the deadheads say it mean emotional, sure deadheads are dead inside:rolleyes:), there are waaaaaaaaaaaay more emos than sleaze rock heads.
and yes im stil listening to the crue, poison, whitesnake, wasp, cinderella, skid row, warrant, faster pussycat, salty dog,...............just because its old music doesnt mean its ****, bon jovis 80s stuff is immense.
sure you prob think arctic monkeys is the height of rock and roll taste(and still an indie band, just signed to a company)
VR are sleaze rock, they drip of it, look at slash, if he was trying to get away from that image, why the hell would be launch a autobiography which is dripping with sleaze???
btw bon jovi aint sleaze rock, take a look at motley crues lyrics, thats sleaze rock.

Artic Monkeys!? ? ? ? don't think so i wouldn't dare have em on my ipod, have you read the slash book???? his time in gn'r was all sleazy but since he married pearla he has snapped out of his sleaze mode with a few slips addiction wise, then again you prob haven't read it cause there isn't enough pictures and too much text

kona

hyn-zie wrote: »

Artic Monkeys!? ? ? ? don't think so i wouldn't dare have em on my ipod, have you read the slash book???? his time in gn'r was all sleazy but since he married pearla he has snapped out of his sleaze mode with a few slips addiction wise, then again you prob haven't read it cause there isn't enough pictures and too much text

id say there is more pictures in slashs than in the heroin diaries(far superior)actually. slash was nikkis little sidekick, in fact GnR were motleys bitch.......did you know nikki sixx was asked to produce appetite??? didnt think so.
there is a difference between being a junkie and being sleazy actually:rolleyes:

MizzLolly

Woah guys.... realx!! Haha... I'm not that old either, I'm 18 but I love VR, Bonjovi and GNR etc... I don't really think age has much to do with it. In fact they're my three fave bands!!! What a generalization... Hyn-zie... I love VR but I do admit to liking MCR too... Varied tastes I reckon. Anyway that's my point, we all like different things. Just making the point that not all jovi fans hate VR or MCR fans hate GNR.... Mixed tastes and all that jazz!!


And wasn't Libertad held up coz of some legal krap involving a VR band member and a recent visit to rehab??? They've just grown up a bit and learned a few lessons I think! Oooh I wish I had have been here for it all though.. Damn I was born too late!! .. hehehe...

Hahaha.... this post wasn't an invitation to attack me btw...just stating my musical preferences!!! (though after reading some of those comments I reckon u guys are gona slaughter me)

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

Woah guys.... realx!! Haha... I'm not that old either, I'm 18 but I love VR, Bonjovi and GNR etc... I don't really think age has much to do with it. In fact they're my three fave bands!!! What a generalization... Hyn-zie... I love VR but I do admit to liking MCR too... Varied tastes I reckon. Anyway that's my point, we all like different things. Just making the point that not all jovi fans hate VR or MCR fans hate GNR.... Mixed tastes and all that jazz!!


And wasn't Libertad held up coz of some legal krap involving a VR band member and a recent visit to rehab??? They've just grown up a bit and learned a few lessons I think! Oooh I wish I had have been here for it all though.. Damn I was born too late!! .. hehehe...

Hahaha.... this post wasn't an invitation to attack me btw...just stating my musical preferences!!! (though after reading some of those comments I reckon u guys are gona slaughter me)

what the hell??? thats a load of crap!! fans of glam hate emos and thats a fact!!!














only messin!!!:p:D

MizzLolly

Hahaha I must just be an exception to the rule!! YAY!!!

MagicMarker

I didn't even realise VR had a new album until recently... I had a quick flick through it and it sounds rather shíte tbh. Although i didn't listen intensely or anything.

MizzLolly

Listen to gravedancer....

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

id say there is more pictures in slashs than in the heroin diaries(far superior)actually. slash was nikkis little sidekick, in fact GnR were motleys bitch.......did you know nikki sixx was asked to produce appetite??? didnt think so.
there is a difference between being a junkie and being sleazy actually:rolleyes:

Yes i am aware and i actually read the Slash Autobiography and am reading Nikki Sixx's Heroine Diaries at the moment in which is shorter than Slash's, Slash hung around with him for like a year or something, i read "the dirt" as well, there was only like two or three mentioning's of slash in it, when Nikki Odeed in slash's hotel room he couldn't be seen around sixx as he was being blamed for it!!! Guns toured in america with them for a short while, oh and to put the record straight Nikki's book has more pictures and diagrams in it and less text so i'm sure you won't have too much trouble reading it!!!!! your starting to sound a little bit more like Nikki's/motley's Bit**.

hyn-zie

MizzLolly wrote: »

Woah guys.... realx!! Haha... I'm not that old either, I'm 18 but I love VR, Bonjovi and GNR etc... I don't really think age has much to do with it. In fact they're my three fave bands!!! What a generalization... Hyn-zie... I love VR but I do admit to liking MCR too... Varied tastes I reckon. Anyway that's my point, we all like different things. Just making the point that not all jovi fans hate VR or MCR fans hate GNR.... Mixed tastes and all that jazz!!


And wasn't Libertad held up coz of some legal krap involving a VR band member and a recent visit to rehab??? They've just grown up a bit and learned a few lessons I think! Oooh I wish I had have been here for it all though.. Damn I was born too late!! .. hehehe...

Hahaha.... this post wasn't an invitation to attack me btw...just stating my musical preferences!!! (though after reading some of those comments I reckon u guys are gona slaughter me)

Its ok to be openminded about music as everybody are entitled to there opinion except Bon Jovi and MCR fans, they suck ass!!!!!!

MizzLolly

... Sorry to disappoint you.. but I don't! :rolleyes:

kona

hyn-zie wrote: »

Yes i am aware and i actually read the Slash Autobiography and am reading Nikki Sixx's Heroine Diaries at the moment in which is shorter than Slash's, Slash hung around with him for like a year or something, i read "the dirt" as well, there was only like two or three mentioning's of slash in it, when Nikki Odeed in slash's hotel room he couldn't be seen around sixx as he was being blamed for it!!! Guns toured in america with them for a short while, oh and to put the record straight Nikki's book has more pictures and diagrams in it and less text so i'm sure you won't have too much trouble reading it!!!!! your starting to sound a little bit more like Nikki's/motley's Bit**.

eh where in the diaries is there a ****ing diagram???
and this aint a motley V gNr but the fact that i saw paradise city playing on popscene, is a good example as to who gNr are no where near the same league as motley.
whats it with you and insulting my ability to read??? have you got issues or somthing?? youve mentioned it in the last two posts, fact of the matter is the VR are **** compared to what the members used to put out.
in my opinion GnR are extremly over-rated, as is slash, i think its starting to show now, in my opinion the best thing that band did was break up before they released a really bad album, use your illusions were crap, there were enough decent songs on both to make one decent album. use your illusion should have been one album, i mean get in the ring(worst album filler ive ever heard).
examples of utter ****e that GnR members are now
Adlers appitite(or whatever) total bollix, the bloke cant even talk now, he should quit
Slashs snakepit......Enough said
VR...see above
noone get even close to the praise GnR got
as for axl and the new GnR, what a bluff, there is no new album, and it defo doesnt take a decade to get talented musicians up to the standard of the old GnR to be honest, 5mins is even too much.

Mushy

This has turned from VR cancelling a Japan tour, to comparing Motley/GNR and how "sleaze" they are..nice job. All we want to know is when the hell are they rescheduling here by now(despite personally not liking the second album too much).

kona

yes yes it has:mad: but i dont think its comparing how sleazey they are! i dont really care, motley are better, if you disagree, you may have a hearing problem.
ah well i dont think that they will come here unless its a festival thing.

Mushy

kona wrote: »

yes yes it has:mad: but i dont think its comparing how sleazey they are! i dont really care, motley are better, if you disagree, you may have a hearing problem.
ah well i dont think that they will come here unless its a festival thing.

Ya see, now you're just being ignorant towards other peoples opinions, as if you're opinion is the right one. IMO, GnR are better than Motley. Then again, I do have a slight problem with bad hearing at the moment;). You came into this thread just to compare how VR are over-rated, after VR fans(myself included) wanted talk about their touring schedule.

If VR come here, I dont think it'd be a festival. They'd do their own show. If this isn't the case, I'd be very surprised!

kona

Mushy wrote: »

Ya see, now you're just being ignorant towards other peoples opinions, as if you're opinion is the right one. IMO, GnR are better than Motley. Then again, I do have a slight problem with bad hearing at the moment;). You came into this thread just to compare how VR are over-rated, after VR fans(myself included) wanted talk about their touring schedule.

If VR come here, I dont think it'd be a festival. They'd do their own show. If this isn't the case, I'd be very surprised!

eh chillax,:D
i think motley are better, and thats that, you think GnR are better and thats that. i was trying to say VR would be better off upping the sleaze, there is a hole in that market at the moment.
and im sorry to tell you this but i started the thread, YOU joined in:p

Mushy

kona wrote: »

eh chillax,:D
i think motley are better, and thats that, you think GnR are better and thats that. i was trying to say VR would be better off upping the sleaze, there is a hole in that market at the moment.
and im sorry to tell you this but i started the thread, YOU joined in:p

Its the "hearing problem" statement that means you're dismissing other peoples opinions. Apart from that, I really dont care. Cant see VR changing now. It may disturb some people to see old(er) people do some sleazy stuff though:D

MizzLolly

Ah!! This is getting entertaining... carry on!!

I doubt they'll come here for a festival. Surely they're big enough for their own show now??

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

Ah!! This is getting entertaining... carry on!!

I doubt they'll come here for a festival. Surely they're big enough for their own show now??

they would sell the point themselves no bother, but thats a shell at the moment:(
other than that the other places are outdoors such as rds etc, i reckon we could see them tour either in a festival, OR as a package, like download, i know that the crue are looking to tour this summer as are metallica, so we could see them as a package.
would have been nice to see em with bon jovi, but some dumbass has billed razorlight as support, prob the same dumbass who paired the fratellis with aerosmith( i think the irish music industry is retarded and one dimensional,this is another discussion altogether!)
im not out to put down anybodys opinions, its kinda hard to get across my soense of humour on paper, it just comes across as me being a a$$hole:D:D

and good point bout em being old, but maybe thats the problem???they havnt evolved and just gone stale??

MizzLolly

Yeah can't say I'm too happy to hear razorlight are supporting them :rolleyes: Awww it'd be sooooooo kool if VR and Aerosmith played together!!!!! :eek: Bonjovi with VR woulda been heaven for me... Now if ALL THREE played together (I know it's never gona happan)... that just brings a tear to my eye!! *sniffle* Hahaha..

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

they would sell the point themselves no bother, but thats a shell at the moment:(
other than that the other places are outdoors such as rds etc, i reckon we could see them tour either in a festival, OR as a package, like download, i know that the crue are looking to tour this summer as are metallica, so we could see them as a package.
would have been nice to see em with bon jovi, but some dumbass has billed razorlight as support, prob the same dumbass who paired the fratellis with aerosmith( i think the irish music industry is retarded and one dimensional,this is another discussion altogether!)
im not out to put down anybodys opinions, its kinda hard to get across my soense of humour on paper, it just comes across as me being a a$$hole:D:D

and good point bout em being old, but maybe thats the problem???they havnt evolved and just gone stale??

I don't think Nikki Sixx would enjoy any moment of supporting bon jovi, he f?ckin hates them, i thought tommy was leaving or something????

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

they would sell the point themselves no bother, but thats a shell at the moment:(
other than that the other places are outdoors such as rds etc, i reckon we could see them tour either in a festival, OR as a package, like download, i know that the crue are looking to tour this summer as are metallica, so we could see them as a package.
would have been nice to see em with bon jovi, but some dumbass has billed razorlight as support, prob the same dumbass who paired the fratellis with aerosmith( i think the irish music industry is retarded and one dimensional,this is another discussion altogether!)
im not out to put down anybodys opinions, its kinda hard to get across my soense of humour on paper, it just comes across as me being a a$$hole:D:D

and good point bout em being old, but maybe thats the problem???they havnt evolved and just gone stale??

When did Fratellis support Aerosmith? if i remember Chris Cornell Supported Them and the Fratellis Supported Kaiser Cheifs!!!!

kona

i may be wrong, i didnt pay much attention to the support because i thought it was ****!
em chris cornell defo did support, as he was decent, im almost sure it was the fratellis that supported too??? it was some generic radio crap anyways.
point being, support for these bands is always poor!

taut you read the dirt and the diaries, nikki has no probs with bon jovi, he just hates bon jovis music,(i wouldnt say steve tyler and joe perry liked the fratellis either) as hanging out goes, they are cool.
it all stems from, doc mcghee and his drug dealing problems and the moscow music festival, when he basically lied to the crue, to get them on the bill, so he could get bon jovi to play to a sold out stadium, funny how the crue sorted heaps of bands out!!
watched welcome to the videos last nite, GnR in my opinion only had 3 class songs, Live and let die(which they didnt write), Welcome to the jungle(wow they looked very motley lol) and Paradise city(best song they have written)

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

i may be wrong, i didnt pay much attention to the support because i thought it was ****!
em chris cornell defo did support, as he was decent, im almost sure it was the fratellis that supported too??? it was some generic radio crap anyways.
point being, support for these bands is always poor!

taut you read the dirt and the diaries, nikki has no probs with bon jovi, he just hates bon jovis music,(i wouldnt say steve tyler and joe perry liked the fratellis either) as hanging out goes, they are cool.
it all stems from, doc mcghee and his drug dealing problems and the moscow music festival, when he basically lied to the crue, to get them on the bill, so he could get bon jovi to play to a sold out stadium, funny how the crue sorted heaps of bands out!!
watched welcome to the videos last nite, GnR in my opinion only had 3 class songs, Live and let die(which they didnt write), Welcome to the jungle(wow they looked very motley lol) and Paradise city(best song they have written)

Yeah i did read it! seriouly but Guns n Roses have more classic's, Estranged? It's So Easy, Mr Brownstone? November Rain? etc etc, All of motley's early stuff is panzie's stuff no interest at all, some of Girls album is ok, Feelgood is, the only thing after that in which i could stand was "Sick Love Song" what a killer riff!

Gerard.C

kona wrote: »

i may be wrong, i didnt pay much attention to the support because i thought it was ****!
em chris cornell defo did support, as he was decent, im almost sure it was the fratellis that supported too??? it was some generic radio crap anyways.
point being, support for these bands is always poor!

It was The Feeling. They were ****.

kona

Gerard.C wrote: »

kona wrote: »

i may be wrong, i didnt pay much attention to the support because i thought it was ****!
em chris cornell defo did support, as he was decent, im almost sure it was the fratellis that supported too??? it was some generic radio crap anyways.
point being, support for these bands is always poor!

It was The Feeling. They were ****.

good man !!!! i knew it began with a F!!

it was the feeling, and as expected they were ****, i think somebody got kicked out for throwing somthing at them??? wish it was me!

kona

hyn-zie wrote: »

Yeah i did read it! seriouly but Guns n Roses have more classic's, Estranged? It's So Easy, Mr Brownstone? November Rain? etc etc, All of motley's early stuff is panzie's stuff no interest at all, some of Girls album is ok, Feelgood is, the only thing after that in which i could stand was "Sick Love Song" what a killer riff!

im more early motley when they dripped of punk!!! too fast for love and shout at the devil are immense.
girls and feelgood were great but they kinda lost that raw edge

MizzLolly

Welcome to the Jungle is a Grrrreat song!! So is don't cry... two of my favourites!!!


Anyway carry on...

don't let me interrupt..

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

Welcome to the Jungle is a Grrrreat song!! So is don't cry... two of my favourites!!!


Anyway carry on...

don't let me interrupt..

your gas you are;):D
feel free to join in:p

MizzLolly

Nah.... I'm a bonjovi fan... what'd I know???!!!

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

Nah.... I'm a bonjovi fan... what'd I know???!!!

how to listen to 2nd rate hairmetal:D:D;)lol

MizzLolly

OI!!!! Button it or I'll side with Hyn-zie!! Joke!!

Okay... well... erm.... I think that VR would sell out waaaaaaay more than the point....

And that.... erm... I forget what we're talkin about... It started off about a cancelled show, then a fight about deaf, illiterate motely b***es and then some guy called Mushy started talkin'....


I dunno.....

Mushy

MizzLolly wrote: »

OI!!!! Button it or I'll side with Hyn-zie!! Joke!!

Okay... well... erm.... I think that VR would sell out waaaaaaay more than the point....

And that.... erm... I forget what we're talkin about... It started off about a cancelled show, then a fight about deaf, illiterate motely b***es and then some guy called Mushy started talkin'....


I dunno.....

Yay, I got mentioned:D. Ah no, I've no issues really, just dont understand how/why Motley really came up at all.

I dont think VR would sell out much more than the Point, not now. Dont think they are as popular(possibly better word here) as they were around the last album. The public buzz is gone from them IMO. Its just when will they ever re-schedule this damn Irish show.

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

OI!!!! Button it or I'll side with Hyn-zie!! Joke!!

Okay... well... erm.... I think that VR would sell out waaaaaaay more than the point....

And that.... erm... I forget what we're talkin about... It started off about a cancelled show, then a fight about deaf, illiterate motely b***es and then some guy called Mushy started talkin'....


I dunno.....

how many conversations do you know that keep on topic, im just too lazy to start a new threads!! i recycle:D:D:p

il be in the que on thursday morning, gunna be glammed up too, god the looks ya get its gas.
motley gave birth to 80s rock, and comments like above should be treated the same way arab countries whip ya when you call a teddy mohammad:D:D:eek:
harsh, but fair.

MizzLolly

Kona:
No no no... I didn't say that... I was recycling what other ppl had said throughout the thread! I don't really care tbh.. haha... I still love VR... that's devotion for ya!!

Yup I'll be queueing too but not looking glamorous... looking tired and grumpy! (and poor after spending that much on tickets, we're getting fleeced!)


Mushy:
I think they could. Lots of people began to like 'em after 'come on come in'. I do think Libertad is slightly 'softer' than Contraband but that's a good thing. Shows that they've grown methinks! And yeah I'd love if they'd reschedule that show. I really wish oxygen would cop the hell on and start bringing in more good bands, imagine if VR played oxygen??? Bliss! (I know... that'll never happen)

kona

eh oxygen can have its **** bands, i dont want a weekend of good music ruined by skangers, if its the usual crap, i join in the mayhem, amazing how a bottle of jack cures a hangover!!!!
ye how much are the bon jovi tickets??? i dont get paid untill saturday, unless they are 48.26 im in trouble!!!

contraband is the most 'flacid' piece of crap i own, still lying under vixen!!! google vixen and you'll see what i mean!!

although the new album is even more limp, even the cover is crap!

MizzLolly

Uh oh.... The ad says seventy something!!! ????? Did u hear 48??? I heard 70!! I hope I'm wrong!!!


Shhh... it's a great album! So is Libertad, I agree not AS good as contraband but deffo not 'limp'!! :eek:

kona

MizzLolly wrote: »

Uh oh.... The ad says seventy something!!! ????? Did u hear 48??? I heard 70!! I hope I'm wrong!!!


Shhh... it's a great album! So is Libertad, I agree not AS good as contraband but deffo not 'limp'!! :eek:

compared to w.a.s.p its limp, wasp are ****ing rockin hard, listening to animal...what a tune!!!
'ill nail your ass to the sheets'- best lyric ever!

ye i only have 48 squid to my name, and that HAS to last 2 nights of moderate to extremly heavy drinking!
knowin this bleedin country itl be e75 thats what aerosmith was

hyn-zie

kona wrote: »

im more early motley when they dripped of punk!!! too fast for love and shout at the devil are immense.
girls and feelgood were great but they kinda lost that raw edge

I agree, there both very commercial albums!!!! still i wouldn't be interested in the early stuff, even listening to Skid Row is boring now a days, a bit of Alice in Chains or Rob Zombie ha ha lol

hyn-zie

MizzLolly wrote: »

Kona:
No no no... I didn't say that... I was recycling what other ppl had said throughout the thread! I don't really care tbh.. haha... I still love VR... that's devotion for ya!!

Yup I'll be queueing too but not looking glamorous... looking tired and grumpy! (and poor after spending that much on tickets, we're getting fleeced!)


Mushy:
I think they could. Lots of people began to like 'em after 'come on come in'. I do think Libertad is slightly 'softer' than Contraband but that's a good thing. Shows that they've grown methinks! And yeah I'd love if they'd reschedule that show. I really wish oxygen would cop the hell on and start bringing in more good bands, imagine if VR played oxygen??? Bliss! (I know... that'll never happen)

Yeah i wouldn't think oxigen would sign them but they did do Audioslave a coupke of years back! Libertad is a very good album, a bit softer which is expected as Brendan O'Brien has his certain veiw on how songs should be, all the stp albums he done where way to soft and totally changed them from grunge