AXA Raheny 5 2008

DaveH

Hi,
The 2008 AXA Insurance Raheny 5 takes place on Sunday 27th January 2008.
Pre-Entry Fee is €15 or €20 on the day.
We also have two childrens races over 800 Meters for 8 -12 Year olds and 1 Mile for 13-16 Year Old
Entry Fee to both is €5.

You can Pre-Enter at www.rahenyshamrock.com
There is also full details available on the site.

thanks

ecoli

great race love running it every year junior field was bit week last year must say but all in all a good day and good race

TheRoadRunner

Yeah great race all right would definitely recommend it to anybody who has never done it before.

runningbean

one of the best organised races in the country.what is the course record again?

DaveH

just a reminder to you all.....not long left now!

DaveH

Final Reminder to you all.

1 Week to go

Pre-entries have already hit the 1,000 mark.

hawkwing

Does anyone know is this chip timed. Also what is car parking like in the area?

TheRoadRunner

I don't think it is chipped timed.

I was advised to park at the church. Apparently it is close to the start and can accommodate 500 cars.

Looking forward to the race now

thirtyfoot

hawkwing wrote: »

Does anyone know is this chip timed. Also what is car parking like in the area?

If in Dublin you could get the DART. Raheny 5 is a great race, well run, great stadium-like finish area, great PA with knowledge of all of the athletes. Its the way all races should be organised.

rovers_runner

DaveH wrote: »

Final Reminder to you all.

1 Week to go

Pre-entries have already hit the 1,000 mark.

Would it be handy enough register on the morning of the race?
Say an hour early?

Also: I see they only recorded the top 500 home last year?

islandexile

I've decided to give this one a go.

As a newbie to the running world, I would be interested to know what ye seasoned campaigners do training wise on the week of a race? Do ye ease off the mileage or just do the mileage at a lower intensity? Would a Thursday night session signify the end of the training for a Sunday race or would ye recommend a light session closer to race day?

DaveH

Hi Everyone,
I'll try and answer all your questions here.

First of all keep an eye on www.rahenyshamrock.com for updates. Final Race instructions will be posted there during the week.

In answer to your questions,
The race is not chipped time, however we should have full results available on our website on Monday the 28th.
with regard to rovers_runner. the full results are our website from last year. I think it is the way you are viewing the categories that you are only throwing up 500 returns.

Regarding Car Parking, There is limited car parking available in Raheny village, however there is a very big field expected in excesss of 2,000, so I recommend using public transport.
Raheny Dart Station is in the middle of Raheny Village and only 5 mins walk to the race HQ.
Also Raheny is serviced by Dublin Bus from Dublin City Center(i will get the buses for you all later).

With Regard entering the race,
Pre-Entry Fee is €15
Pre-Entries are available up to Mid-Night on Saturday January 26th.
You can pre-entry via
www.rahenyshamrock.com - paypal/Visa/Mastercard accepted
or you can download the entry form from www.rahenyshamrock.com and post it to the address on the form with the pre-entry fee.
Or you can drop into the AXA Insurance office in Raheny Village and enter there.
Also The AXA Insurance Office in Raheny Village will be open from 10am to 4pm on Saturday January 26th for pre-entries.

You can also enter on the day until 2pm for €20.

If you have any other questions please ask. You can email rahenyshamrock@hotmail.com with any other questions.

I will do my very best to answer on the board and via email, please allow that this is a very busy week.

cheers
Dave

rovers_runner

DaveH,
Thanks for the reply, sorry I worded that wrong earlier.
I was looking through the results but it only has times for the first 500 in the male senior category.
http://www.rahenyshamrock.com/r5/sm/SeniorMen1Page9.html


Will the complete list of times be recorded along with the positions ?

hawkwing

I hope so cos i have no hope of doing 3600,hoping to break 40 minutes:(

rovers_runner

hawkwing wrote: »

I hope so cos i have no hope of doing 3600,hoping to break 40 minutes:(

Same boat as yourself hawkwing

rovers_runner

So I guess your time will only be counted if you break 35 mins then ?

Racing Flat

Dave,
How're the goody bags coming along?:D

And what's the weather forecast? 12degrees, dry, tailwind all the way round, with a mild earthquake shortly before race start to flatten the hill at the 4mile would be great.;)

Seriously though, best race of the year.

DaveH

Racing Flat wrote: »

Dave,
How're the goody bags coming along?:D

And what's the weather forecast? 12degrees, dry, tailwind all the way round, with a mild earthquake shortly before race start to flatten the hill at the 4mile would be great.;)

Seriously though, best race of the year.

Ah the goodie Bags...what can I say , I will unoffically confirm their will be goody bags for finishers this year...and officailly confirm that all finishers in the 5 mile race recieve a plaque and in the two juvenille race's finishers get a medal.

As for Rovers Runner question. I will have to get a honest answer, as far as I know there should be full times available.

If you keep an eye on www.rahenyshamrock.com I'll post the race instructions either tomorrow night or friday. That includes all the city center busses to Raheny(sorry dont have it on me at the moment)

cheers

rovers_runner

Thanks DaveH, I'll do my best to make it, fair play to ye though for the organisation as this is the only run between the Aware 10K / BHAA 10K and the BUPA run in Dublin for middle distance.

hawkwing

Dave,tried to pay online but keep getting "problem with seller's email" and it does not go through,anyone else having problems?

DaveH

hi,
If your having any problems can you email me please,

dave_hooper2000@hotmail.com

im going to be checking my email a lot between now and tomorrow night

The last entry i recieved was at 17.40

thanks
Dave

hawkwing

just managed to pay now,i presume we just print off the receipt and bring it to registration as there is no race number

DaveH

If you've pre-entered just bring yourself. Just to remind you, pre-entries close at midnight tonight.

There is late entries tomorrow from 1pm to 2.30 for €20.

thanks

hawkwing

Very enjoyable race and very well organised. Was very happy with the generous goody bag,better than the adidas race series.Not quite sure where the start line was so timing was difficult but managed 3934 by my timing,1 min better than my adidas 5 and i have finally broken the cursed 40minute barrier after a slow start!!Well done to all involved

Racing Flat

Great conditions. Great race. Thanks Raheny.



1st Vinny Mulvey Raheny
2nd Brian Maher ?Kilkenny
3rd ?Cillian O'Leary Rahney
4th Sergiy Tureau Clonliffe
5th
6th Bernard Roe Raheny

8 under 25mins I think.

Ladies
1st Maria McCambridge

TheRoadRunner

Thanks Raheny an absolute brilliant promotion as usual.

Car parking was ample (I parked in the Church as instructed).

Kids races were entertaining as was the commentary.

Course was great. I was hoping to run close to 28 minutes so I stayed close to the front so I didn't get held up at all.

Local crowd got out and cheered.
Atmosphere was superb.
Goody bag kept me very busy on the M50 on the way home.
And to top it all weather was brilliant & I ran about 30 seconds faster than I had hoped

Well worth the 15 euro. I much prefer to run races such as this then some of the other larger more expensive road races.

geld

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Well worth the 15 euro. I much prefer to run races such as this then some of the other larger more expensive road races.

Well said Road Runner. You are right I ran in Raheny again today and again it was suberb. A credit to all in Raheny who are involved. It goes to show that you don't have to pay the exorbitant prices of the Connemara's and Bupa's to get a quality race.

rovers_runner

Dave, have to hand it to you that was a brilliant race today.
Atmosphere and weather were great, so this will be a permanent fixture in my calendar from now on and i'll be recommending it to everyone.

lizanne83

Agreed, absolutely smashing day… weather, moods, atmosphere and of course goody bag and post race eats! Yummy cad cream eggs and kit-kats were the perfect treat! Was very happy with a 33:10 mins as wasn’t as prepped as should have been. Really need to join a club to get some speed work as it’s much harder when always running on own. Anyone else find the same? My running sticky note for 2008 so far is:
Raheny-5 today (Jan)
Bupa great run 10k (April)
Flora (women’s) 10k (June)
Achill half-marathon (July)
Berlin marathon (September)
… if there’s any 10k’s in-between that anyone recommends please let me know? I list the above as a goal/self motivation to continue training. Find it challenging when on own. There’s no AC’s around the Naas area to join… and travelling to Celbridge/Dublin too far just to run. Any suggestions on how best to train or should I travel such distance just to run with a club?! Thanks

www.lizannebarnwall.com

jamiekate

Hi,

I really enjoyed the race today, everyone said beforehand that it is a fast race. The goody bag was goody but I think there should have been water at the finish for the athletes.

Not being snotty here, but it is generally the first thing that is needed after a race. And today was very warm for january. If the liquids in the goody bag were the liquids on offer I think that Raheny should look at this aspect for next year. It was a really well organised race otherwise. Thanks to the Hooper clan who are obviously at the core of it all.

cfitz

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Well worth the 15 euro. I much prefer to run races such as this then some of the other larger more expensive road races.

There are more expensive races than this? The entry fees in some of these races is ridiculous. I got a prize in the Gerry Farnan XC last year and it was only a fiver more than I paid to enter. But at least you're getting a top quality field for that and it's still cheaper than the Raheny 5.

In the organisers' defence though you can't blame them for charging what people are willing to pay.

TheRoadRunner

cfitz wrote: »

There are more expensive races than this? The entry fees in some of these races is ridiculous. I got a prize in the Gerry Farnan XC last year and it was only a fiver more than I paid to enter. But at least you're getting a top quality field for that and it's still cheaper than the Raheny 5.

In the organisers' defence though you can't blame them for charging what people are willing to pay.

cfitz, have you ever organised a race yourself ?

If not try and come up with a figure just to cover prize categories. Then take into account the money needed for race numbers, refreshments, changing facilities, first aid, advertisement etc etc

I can assure you the Gerry Farnan race and similar races run at a significant loss !

Some races may make money, but any profits usually go back into the organising club and their members and I have absolutely no problems with that

cfitz

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

cfitz, have you ever organised a race yourself ?

If not try and come up with a figure just to cover prize categories. Then take into account the money needed for race numbers, refreshments, changing facilities, first aid, advertisement etc etc

I can assure you the Gerry Farnan race and similar races run at a significant loss !

Some races may make money, but any profits usually go back into the organising club and their members and I have absolutely no problems with that

Yes I have. I expect that from 30,000 Euro in entry fees (added to the AXA sponsorship) Raheny were not running at a loss. I'm not saying that Raheny shouldn't organise a race to raise massive profits for their club, I'm just questioning the value for money as a potential entrant.

thirtyfoot

cfitz wrote: »

Yes I have. I expect that from 30,000 Euro in entry fees (added to the AXA sponsorship) Raheny were not running at a loss. I'm not saying that Raheny shouldn't organise a race to raise massive profits for their club, I'm just questioning the value for money as a potential entrant.

Shock & Horror - amateur athletic try and raise some badly needed funds with a very well organised road race.

There are too few of these races around for people to be knocking them. As already mentioned if a profit is made its all going back into the club. Jeez, this atitude sometimes in Ireland really annoys me, its not like they are pumping the profits into drug dealing or the chaiman of the club will be wheeling in next week in a BMW 3 Series. If you don't think its value for money, don't enter. The sport is too small for this type of begrudgery.

TheRoadRunner

cfitz wrote: »

Yes I have. I expect that from 30,000 Euro in entry fees (added to the AXA sponsorship) Raheny were not running at a loss. I'm not saying that Raheny shouldn't organise a race to raise massive profits for their club, I'm just questioning the value for money as a potential entrant.

Massive profits ? I doubt it. I also doubt the axa sponsorship covered more than advertising and administration.

Want to give some more details about the race you organise ?
I might enter it myself if the prizes are so good !

rovers_runner

Tingle wrote: »

Shock & Horror - amateur athletic try and raise some badly needed funds with a very well organised road race.

There are too few of these races around for people to be knocking them. As already mentioned if a profit is made its all going back into the club. Jeez, this atitude sometimes in Ireland really annoys me, its not like they are pumping the profits into drug dealing or the chaiman of the club will be wheeling in next week in a BMW 3 Series. If you don't think its value for money, don't enter. The sport is too small for this type of begrudgery.

Well said Tingle.
cfitz you're entitled to his opinion but can you keep it seperate from an event that is well organized and helps to keep the sport going.

For example there are very few road races between now and the summer in the Dublin area.
Malahide castle 5K
City Centre 5K - paddys weekend
BUPA run - 1st weekend in April

OldBloke

I dont think €15 is expensive for a good day out and cos im slow I do get the whole day out Broke 56 so I was happy.

Im glad there are more races coming up - any in February?

Big shout to Damien Martin of Raheny Shamrocks for always encouraging me at any race I enter and this was no different - at the 3 km mark he started to get me to pick up my feet and he was there at the end cheering me on - well done to Raheny Shamrocks - great bunch of people.

TheRoadRunner

the BHAA (www.bhaa.ie) have 3 cross country races in February if that is of any interest.

I think 2 of them are 5 miles and one is 4 miles.

xebec

mysport.ie and Slaney Olympic have a 10k on in Enniscorthy on the 17th February.

cfitz

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Massive profits ? I doubt it. I also doubt the axa sponsorship covered more than advertising and administration.

Want to give some more details about the race you organise ?
I might enter it myself if the prizes are so good !

The last race I organised, the winners got an all expenses paid trip abroad.

TheRoadRunner

any more details ?

cfitz

Tingle wrote: »

Shock & Horror - amateur athletic try and raise some badly needed funds with a very well organised road race.

There are too few of these races around for people to be knocking them. As already mentioned if a profit is made its all going back into the club. Jeez, this atitude sometimes in Ireland really annoys me, its not like they are pumping the profits into drug dealing or the chaiman of the club will be wheeling in next week in a BMW 3 Series. If you don't think its value for money, don't enter. The sport is too small for this type of begrudgery.

What begrudgery? There was nothing begrudging in anything I said. Please point out the begrudgery.

If my club organised events like the Raheny 5 I'd be delighted. But I'm still entitled to think that entry was overpriced. I never suggested that the event shouldn't be organised. Or that people shouldn't enter it. Just that I thought it was too expensive.

Some people here would want to take a step back and look out how they are reacting to a simple statement.

thirtyfoot

cfitz wrote: »

The last race I organised, the winners got an all expenses paid trip abroad.

Kenyan trials? US Olympic trials?

thirtyfoot

cfitz wrote: »

What begrudgery? There was nothing begrudging in anything I said. Please point out the begrudgery.

If my club organised events like the Raheny 5 I'd be delighted. But I'm still entitled to think that entry was overpriced. I never suggested that the event shouldn't be organised. Or that people shouldn't enter it. Just that I thought it was too expensive.

Some people here would want to take a step back and look out how they are reacting to a simple statement.

Begrudgery in the sense that you seem to have a problem that Raheny have the get up to organise a race and make some money for their club (which is secondary to the main priority of organising a great race). Are you unhappy that they are making money for their club or are you unhappy that you have to pay so much? If its that you are too tight to pay the 15euro and not be in with a chance of an overseas trip then I apologise, but if its because Raheny have the gall to organise a top class event and charge through the teeth (the price of 3 pints for God's sake) then my original point is valid I'd reckon.

Don't do distance races but if I have to pay 100% or 200% over the odds to ensure the sport stays alive, I'll pay it.

OldBloke

Thanks for the Feb Races roadrunner - was looking for road races really but ill just have to wait until 1st March in Malahide.

Thanks again

TheRoadRunner

No problem. Who is organising the race in Malahide castle ?

I think there is a 10 mile roard race this weekend or the following somewhere in Waterford !!!!
I have a flyer at home so I'll post details if nobody gets in with the info before me.

Stupid_Private

I can see where cfitz is coming from with the prices for races. I raced the last two years in France and moved back to Dublin in September and was surprised to see that the races were at least 3 times the price. It's something I've got used to now but there's no way I'm paying 31 euro for the bupa 10k. High prices for marathons I understand but for a 10k?!

One of the biggest and best races I took part in while in France had some top marathoners running it from Italy, France and Kenya. A 24k race between two towns up and down some mountains - lovely stuff - and all for 12 euro! At the end of it all you got was sore legs and a top quality t-shirt (seriously, it was probably the only top quality t-shirt I got over there!).

The best thing I noted about all the races in France was that before every one of them there was always a kids race. For the most part race days were full family affairs - the kids would have their race and then the adults. I used be surprised how many kids used turn up and do them. Then again, the kids races were free. That's about the only thing I found odd about the Raheny race - you're going to pay 15 euro in every race in Dublin, you may as well get used to it, but is there a need to charge a fiver for a kid to race? If you want to see the sport stay alive then encouraging kids to take part should be the main thing...

Well, it sounds like everyone seemed to enjoy themselves. I'm not going to start getting annoyed at paying 15 euro or else I won't be racing much this year...

TheRoadRunner

cfitz wrote: »

Some people here would want to take a step back and look out how they are reacting to a simple statement.

Maybe so but your "simple statement" comes across as very critical and takes away from the many positives of the race. As an aside I'm sure prizes for the top finishers and teams were decent in Raheny as our club did well in team prizes in years gone by.

Maybe I'm hypersensitive about things like this but there is always someone who will find something wrong with a race.
To these people I say that's great, please leave dates and details. I can't wait to run your perfect race !

T runner

Hi Lizanne

Running with training partners makes it easier sometimes. If youre working in Dublin you could join a club on the route home, Rathfarnham or Tallaght possibly. The speed nights are usually on a tuesday or thursday with most clubs. Im not familiar with any clubs in the Naas area.
Being in a club puts you in the "loop" aswell and gives you a chance to chat about running matters with others.

You could possibly advertise for female runners interested in doing speed sessions locally.
There is bound to be interest given Naas's population.

There are also plenty of hill races with IMRA
http://www.imra.ie/
including a good race on 3 Rock this sunday at 11. (have a look at this event in past years to get a feel for it).
IMRA are a nice crowd and always willing to give advice/help out. Their site has a lot of hits, You could put a request for runners in Naas area on their forum.

kona

cfitz wrote: »

The last race I organised, the winners got an all expenses paid trip abroad.

and everybody else got sweet feck all.
you wouldnt go to the cinema on e15.

and as for raheny making huge profit...have you seen the clubhouse:eek::eek:

the hoopers are not the kind of people to rip fellow athletes off, the amount that that family have done not just for the local community, but for irish athletics is incalculable.

Mr Mister

I agree kona, whats €15 these days, sure you'd pay at least that to go to a League of Ireland match (Im not slating LoI btw) and for the €5 for the kids they get a goodie bag and medal so dont really think theres cause for complaint.

I'll just jump on the general consensus and say again that it was a great day out with a terrific atmosphere, always is in raheny, and the weather added to it.

Was talking to some of the main people involved in it and its a case of "Thank God its another year till the next one" - some serious organising goes into it.

Was also good to see some decent times posted up front too, with the raheny lads in particular showing some good form. Looking forward to national xc big time now.