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Andy Reid as Irish Captain?

  • 16-11-2007 11:31AM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭


    Having read various articles and seen some interviews this week Andy Reid seems to talk alot of sense. He has been made captain at Charlton this year and by all accounts he has stepped up to the plate like a real captain should(granted I havent seen a lot of championship football just going on reports).

    So my question is would he be a good candidate for the Irish captaincy as imo Robbie Keane needs to be let loose to start scoring again for Ireland.

    I know this has been talked about before with regards Dunne and Given so try to keep it to Reid if possible

    Andy Reid for Irish Captain 28 votes

    Give him the armband
    0% 0 votes
    Maybe make him vice captain
    21% 6 votes
    Keep him as far away from it as Robbie
    78% 22 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,077 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    What's wrong with Richard Dunne?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭yom 1


    Nothing at all and I think Dunne would be the perfect man but I'm just wondering if people rate Reid enough to regard him as a possible choice for the armband.

    Like I said this has been talked before regarding Dunne and Given so I was tryin to avoid them and focus on Reid


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What's wrong with Richard Dunne?

    I'd have him over any player in the squad now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    He broke ranks and criticised the FAI and fans. So no, he is not captain material.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,994 ✭✭✭The_B_Man
    Something about sandwiches


    plus, he hasnt played that often in the last campaign. if hes as injury prone as that, then he wont be playin to be the captain!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,913 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Dunne is the only sensible choice but as Keane currently has the job it would take a brave manager to come in and take it away from him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    The question isn't should he be made captain over dunne, its whether reid is irish captain material.

    I dont think so at the moment as he needs to get a run of games under his belt and establish himself properly in the first team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,606 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Dunne would be my choice if he keeps himself fit.

    Beyond him, Keane and Given, there are not many senior enough players. Carsley would be the only other one but then I don't know if he will be available for the next camaign.

    I wouldn't like it to be Reid myself.

    He is a good player, but not a dominent one - not even from an Irish perspective. I don't think he is a player to grab teh game by the scruff of the next and move us forward, and I don't think he would be the type of rip into a team mate. IMO, the captain should be the midfield general, or a defensive organiser.

    On the other hand, i do question if captaincy actually makes any difference at the top level, apart from theplayer who gets it. If a player has the leadership qualities to be captain, then he should show them, regardless of who has teh armband.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    Give it to Stephen Carr... oh wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I'd give it to Hunt, the only player who seems to care about playing for Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,117 ✭✭✭✭MrJoeSoap


    PHB wrote: »
    I'd give it to Hunt, the only player who seems to care about playing for Ireland.

    You think Doyle doesn't care? Or Dunne? Or Given?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I think they all care, I think Keane cares. But I don't think they show it, I don't think they really really put their country before their club. That's fair enough, most pros wouldn't. But I think Hunt does. I think he gets real pride putting on the shirt, possibly because it's still new to him.
    When he comes on, our drive and determination goes up instantly. He really really wants it, even though he isn't as good as the other players. That's what I think ya need.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Q_Ball wrote: »
    The question isn't should he be made captain over dunne, its whether reid is irish captain material.

    I dont think so at the moment as he needs to get a run of games under his belt and establish himself properly in the first team.
    I think Reid is well established in the Irish camp by now. In terms of respect from teammates he's up there with Dunne, Given, Duff and Keane.

    Anyway, Dunne for captain. Reid would certainly be well capable though.
    Tauren wrote:
    He is a good player, but not a dominent one - not even from an Irish perspective. I don't think he is a player to grab teh game by the scruff of the next and move us forward, and I don't think he would be the type of rip into a team mate. IMO, the captain should be the midfield general, or a defensive organiser.
    Reid when he plays is probably our most dominant and influential player. He has the aggression and is as likely to shout at a teammate as Dunne is. In saying that, the players I mentioned above are probably immune to a good rollicking since Roy retired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,640 ✭✭✭Gillie


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    What's wrong with Richard Dunne?

    QFT! ^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭Mikeyt086


    Andy Reid isnt vocal enough to be captain imo, on the pitch that is.

    Which is just another reason Dunne should get the armband, he is one loud mofo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭prendy


    Dunne as captain and given as vice.
    dunne gets the nod simply coz he's louder.

    as for reid...i dont think id give it to him as he isnt(or at least hasnt been) the heartbeat of the team as he is at charlton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭gustavo


    PHB wrote: »
    I think they all care, I think Keane cares. But I don't think they show it, I don't think they really really put their country before their club. That's fair enough, most pros wouldn't. But I think Hunt does. I think he gets real pride putting on the shirt, possibly because it's still new to him.
    When he comes on, our drive and determination goes up instantly. He really really wants it, even though he isn't as good as the other players. That's what I think ya need.

    Showing a bit of determination doesnt mean he cares more than the rest , just cos they have different playing styles , I dont think he is all that great of a player really , There should be more to the game than "pride" and "passion"
    , I'd have Dunne as captain anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Richard Dunne... without question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,968 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Dunne as captain
    Given as vice-captain

    That is all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭Kone


    Mikeyt086 wrote: »
    Andy Reid isnt vocal enough to be captain imo, on the pitch that is.

    Which is just another reason Dunne should get the armband, he is one loud mofo.

    I fully agree!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    prendy wrote: »
    Dunne as captain and given as vice.
    dunne gets the nod simply coz he's louder.
    I'd say Given would be the louder of the 2 actually. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,323 ✭✭✭Q_Ball


    eirebhoy wrote: »
    I think Reid is well established in the Irish camp by now. In terms of respect from teammates he's up there with Dunne, Given, Duff and Keane.
    prendy wrote: »
    as for reid...i dont think id give it to him as he isnt(or at least hasnt been) the heartbeat of the team as he is at charlton.

    Sorry thats actually what i was getting at


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    he shouldn't be in the starting xi, he has the vision of a bat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    loyatemu wrote: »
    but as Keane currently has the job it would take a brave manager to come in and take it away from him.

    Why would it take a brave manager to take it away from him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,013 ✭✭✭✭eirebhoy


    Call_me_al wrote: »
    he shouldn't be in the starting xi, he has the vision of a bat.
    Who's this? If Reid you've lost all credibility. :) In terms of "vision" he's top of the Irish by far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    i've made this point before, Reid doesn't have the vision you all give him credit for. against cyprus he was appaling, i realise that's one game but it's one of the only games I have seen live in a while.

    he insisted on playing the ball out the left EVERY time even though Hunt was being tightly marked and lost it whenever he received it. Keogh was free every time and came looking for it a lot but Reid continued to ignore him, the one time he made a pass out to him he hit the byline and put a ball in, and then didn't get the ball from him again, then got subbed wiht 30 mins left.

    Whenever I have seen him on TV he has never impressed me, but you don't always see everything on TV.

    He was never that effective in the premier league, he is a championship level player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,867 ✭✭✭Third_Echelon


    Call_me_al wrote: »
    i've made this point before, Reid doesn't have the vision you all give him credit for. against cyprus he was appaling, i realise that's one game but it's one of the only games I have seen live in a while.

    he insisted on playing the ball out the left EVERY time even though Hunt was being tightly marked and lost it whenever he received it. Keogh was free every time and came looking for it a lot but Reid continued to ignore him, the one time he made a pass out to him he hit the byline and put a ball in, and then didn't get the ball from him again, then got subbed wiht 30 mins left.

    Whenever I have seen him on TV he has never impressed me, but you don't always see everything on TV.

    He was never that effective in the premier league, he is a championship level player.

    me + 1. Reid is so overrated its is crazy. He was shocking against germany and cyprus. He couldn't pass the ball forward or move outside the general centre circle area. Every pass went to his left or right... The full backs were closed down and it went back to given about 9 times out of 10...

    Suggesting that he should be captain! Are you having a laugh!

    Richard Dunne without a doubt is the only one ahead of keane I would give it to..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I'm with Echelon on this about Reid. Nowhere near as good as made out. Anybody else impressed with Hunt today?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    PHB wrote: »
    Anybody else impressed with Hunt today?
    Nope, we all thought he was crap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,921 ✭✭✭✭Pigman II


    Andy Reid shouldn't even be on the pitch, let alone captain.


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