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Hot paint ball gun?

  • 12-11-2007 10:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭


    Whoever this is in the video looks to be in a world of pain. Anyone know what FPS the pball wouldhave to have been travelling to cause this impact?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Booom Headshot!

    BoomHeadShot.gif

    (the nets influence on me so far, pwnd, n00b etc....l33t!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭N.O.I.P.


    Think someone posted a link to that vid months ago, I always thought that the kids reaction was mostly due to surprise as opposed to a ridiculously high fps marker, if not that things running way over 400


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    Oh right. Didnt see it before.
    Is 400 the limit on a pball marker? Thought it was a bit higher. Then again i dont know that much bout pball markers to begin with so ill go hide :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Judging by height that kid looks to be a child. Hot paintball guns would depend on the pressure the co2 is kept at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭N.O.I.P.


    Arcto wrote: »
    Oh right. Didnt see it before.
    Is 400 the limit on a pball marker? Thought it was a bit higher. Then again i dont know that much bout pball markers to begin with so ill go hide :)

    Well the term "hot" may not fit perfectly here as we have no way of knowing where the video was taken and as a result we don't know the regulations in that area.

    Since markers are considered firearms over here I don't think there is an fps limit but if one can do that there bloody well should be :D

    Anyway I know SFA about paintball myself so its time to call the cavalry, "DITPaintball Help!!!!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    N.O.I.P. wrote: »
    Well the term "hot" may not fit perfectly here as we have no way of knowing where the video was taken and as a result we don't know the regulations in that area.

    Since markers are considered firearms over here I don't think there is an fps limit but if one can do that there bloody well should be :D

    Anyway I know SFA about paintball myself so its time to call the cavalry, "DITPaintball Help!!!!"

    Isnt there some kind of whislte or "bat light" to get him here faster? :D J/K


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭N.O.I.P.


    Hmm think its called the Mod-Signal, when you turn it on it projects an image of someone wagging their finger in a disapproving manner :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    N.O.I.P. wrote: »
    Well the term "hot" may not fit perfectly here as we have no way of knowing where the video was taken and as a result we don't know the regulations in that area.

    Since markers are considered firearms over here I don't think there is an fps limit but if one can do that there bloody well should be :D

    Anyway I know SFA about paintball myself so its time to call the cavalry, "DITPaintball Help!!!!"

    Now I'm going to sound like some twit on the joe duffy show here but afaik 16 joules is pretty much the standard power imparted on the projectile. Some have suggested after viewing the clip that it make have been a frozen paintball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    Boston wrote: »
    Some have suggested after viewing the clip that it make have been a frozen paintball.



    FU(K ME!!! Thats pretty god damn mean. I can only imagine the pain....no itd be worse than that. I can only imagine the paaaaaaaaaayne.
    Thats better :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    The whole idea of a frozen paintball doesn't really sit right with me.
    1) The paint in the paint ball is mostly made up of water
    2) Water expands when frozen
    3) Paintball marker is a pretty precise mechanism designed around using the energy of CO2 to fire a projectile of exact dimensions.

    Given all the above its difficult to see how you're average marker would fire even a slightly swollen paintball. So this may very well be a urban legend along the lines of "a dingo eat my baby" and "an Airsoft gun shattered my double glazing".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭N.O.I.P.


    Boston wrote: »
    Now I'm going to sound like some twit on the joe duffy show here but afaik 16 joules is pretty much the standard power imparted on the projectile. Some have suggested after viewing the clip that it make have been a frozen paintball.

    Judging by the spray when the ball popped I wouldn't imagine it was frozen (but then I would say that because otherwise I'd be wrong and well we can't have that now can we :D)

    I think your right about the power output though, I seem to remember one of the paintballers mentioning that most markers shoot at about that stock. Right I'm way past exhausting my paintball marker knowledge so it's time for me to slink off into a corner and wait for all my theories to be shot to hell by someone who knows better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭Arcto


    N.O.I.P. wrote: »
    Judging by the spray when the ball popped I wouldn't imagine it was frozen (but then I would say that because otherwise I'd be wrong and well we can't have that now can we :D)

    I think your right about the power output though, I seem to remember one of the paintballers mentioning that most markers shoot at about that stock. Right I'm way past exhausting my paintball marker knowledge so it's time for me to slink off into a corner and wait for all my theories to be shot to hell by someone who knows better

    Here im just over on the left sipping a cold one. (Kicks chair towards noip) Miller?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    N.O.I.P. wrote: »
    Judging by the spray when the ball popped I wouldn't imagine it was frozen (but then I would say that because otherwise I'd be wrong and well we can't have that now can we :D)

    True, I wouldn't expect that type of spray effect from frozen liquid, but at the same time I've played Paintball a lot in the day and never seen something like that. Its clear the paintball still how a serious amount of power when it hit. Possibly this was at very close range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭N.O.I.P.


    Boston wrote:
    True, I wouldn't expect that type of spray effect from frozen liquid, but at the same time I've played Paintball a lot in the day and never seen something like that. Its clear the paintball still how a serious amount of power when it hit. Possibly this was at very close range.

    Any chance it could have been multiple impacts, some of those custom speedball jobbies can have a serious ROF

    Arcto wrote: »
    Here im just over on the left sipping a cold one. (Kicks chair towards noip) Miller?

    Hey the man knows my brand (feck ya just reminded me I got a couple of beers downstairs)

    Batten down the hatches boys I'll be posting drunk again later :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Boston wrote: »
    The whole idea of a frozen paintball doesn't really sit right with me.
    1) The paint in the paint ball is mostly made up of water
    2) Water expands when frozen
    3) Paintball marker is a pretty precise mechanism designed around using the energy of CO2 to fire a projectile of exact dimensions.

    Given all the above its difficult to see how you're average marker would fire even a slightly swollen paintball. So this may very well be a urban legend along the lines of "a dingo eat my baby" and "an Airsoft gun shattered my double glazing".

    Seems its been done before, not very nice. link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,163 ✭✭✭✭Boston


    Wow, that thread is pretty hard core.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    It could have been a dramitisation on the kids part, realism and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭ion c


    He gets shot in the ear protector part of his mask so maybe he got a little dissorientated by the impact as it can make you dizzy for a few secs. But most likely the video is staged. If you look at the initial "headshot" you'll notice the kid gets up again as his leg is pulled in. That kid is a newb. You can see him shooting like a fool.
    As for speeds it seems to be a competition so all markers will be chronoed below 300fps.
    As for the close range Boston standard speedball fields are 50metres in length so I doubt that early into a game you will see close range shooting.
    Also markers CANNOT shoot over about 370fps. anything above that and you will make soup in the breech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    It just looks like he over-reacted. If you look at the slow mo video he gets hit, there is a pause and then his head goes back. If it was the paintball his head snapping back would have been instantaneous.

    Still funny, hope the guy who hit him screamed out headshot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 993 ✭✭✭ditpaintball


    I am here, as ion said, it looks to be a competition (why was a kid playing) so the marker should have been chronoed below 300feet per second which is the standard legal speed for paintballs worldwide.

    Also, as said, the kid just got the s*hit frightened out of him and hit the deck. If it was a frozen paintball (which is unlikely), there would be no splatter as pointed out.

    So to answer the orginal question, 300fps would be the max legal speed.


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