The Mighty "Verse"s (upcoming theory)

creepinshadow

So far in our global scientific outreach we know of but two "Verses" we have our Universe which we live in and know that its real and exists. The other Verse is the "Microverse" despite its most common reference to "Marvel" and the "Fantastic Four" it is theoretically real. I bring this up on a point of discussion. because i believe that if the microverse does exist within our universe. Is it possible that our universe exists within another?

Professor_Fink

I'm not 100% clear on what you mean. Are you suggesting that our universe might contain other universes, and may be embeded in a larger universe? If so, that has already been suggested with regards to the interior of black holes.

See http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0103019 for example.

Professor_Fink

Or are you suggesting that linguistic references to the Marvel Universe, etc., somehow bestow them with a real existence, and that we may be a fictional world within a real universe? If so, then that's not a scientific hypothesis, and you may find a more appropriate response in the philosophy forum.

creepinshadow

Your first comment is the most similar, your second is ludacris (no offense). On the subject of atoms, just imagine that your an electron, your not gonna see the world as we do. all your going to see is other electons and atoms and molecules. To be shrunk to that size would leave you in a world that has massive balls of energy swarming everway along with atoms and what not creating another verse, the "microverse". Thus creating a verse within a verse. This is were the thought of us existing with another verse becomes probable. As your the moderator of this section i wait a reply

Professor_Fink

creepinshadow wrote: »

Your first comment is the most similar, your second is ludacris (no offense).

Well, it wasn't me suggesting it. I think it would be a rather crazy ascertion, but there are plenty of crackpots out there.

As regards electrons experiencing the universe in a different way to us, I'm not really sure how best to respond. Electrons don't see anything. As far as we can tell, they have no internal structure. They are pushed around by light, rather than absorbing it into internal degrees of freedom, and so it is rather meaningless to talk about seeing things on that scale. Visible light has a wavelength many times the size of whole atoms, and so it is not possible to 'see' things on that scale. The way we can detect particles that small is usually by scattering other high energy (i.e. electrons) off them, or by detecting the small electic or magnetic fields they generate.

The scientific method implicitly assumes that some objective reality exists, which we then attempt to measure and model. This goal requires eliminating subjective experience. Because of this, talking about how we would experience the world differently if we were a different size does not actually effect our model of the universe.

Lastly I should point out that the different size scales within the universe are not causally disconnected from one another. The cosmic microwave background anisotropy maps show the results of quantum fluctuations which have been inflated by our expanding universe, so that they now occupy large swathes of the sky. Conversely, nucleo-synthesis in stars is a very small scale result of the large scale structure of the star.

creepinshadow

and with that insight i say touché. thanks for sharing that, i want to do theoretical physics when i go to uni in a couple of years. do you know oscarbravo?

Professor_Fink

creepinshadow wrote: »

do you know oscarbravo?

No, I don't. Should I?