marshall avt 275x

johnboy8

anyone any opionions on this combo amp.i see them on sale in town for half price?

Karl Hungus

Piece of garbage.

Voodu Child

Yep, much better stuff out there for the money. I'd wager even at half-price theres better tone/money value out there.

the AVTs were never great, and were pretty much rendered redundant when the cheap modellers came out.

Pass on it.

darrenw5094

Dirt.......they are Marshall MG's with a few valves........
You won't get a top quality all valve amp for a few hundred Euro.

You are looking at €1000....give or take a couple of hundred....

I am sure someone will disagree with me......it usually happens here.

Karl Hungus

darrenw5094 wrote: »

You won't get a top quality all valve amp for a few hundred Euro.

Who said he was after a top quality all valve amp?

darrenw5094

i just assumed from the Marshall AVT he was asking about.

What does he want exactly??????

johnboy8

so even at 339euro its not a good deal,boy they must be bad

Karl Hungus

johnboy8 wrote: »

so even at 339euro its not a good deal,boy they must be bad

Yep, they are truly terrible amps.

Anyway, if you tell us what you're after, we can recommend something better.

johnboy8

well i have a vox ad50vt at the moment and i find it a bit fiddely,i play blues and rock with a strat and am looking for something with less whistles and bells maybe something a little bit old school(i have heard bad things about the ac series vox)?

punchdrunk

every MG and valvestate i've played has sounded like dogsh1t,and i've played LOADS of em! what ever happened to the marshall of old?

Voodu Child

punchdrunk wrote: »

every MG and valvestate i've played has sounded like dogsh1t,and i've played LOADS of em! what ever happened to the marshall of old?

Don't forget the ModeFour

Eoin Madsen

punchdrunk wrote: »

every MG and valvestate i've played has sounded like dogsh1t,and i've played LOADS of em! what ever happened to the marshall of old?

It's still available on ebay. And Metroamp make great clones of it.

johnboy8 wrote: »

so even at 339euro its not a good deal,boy they must be bad

I don't want to exaggerate here, but I'd go so far as to suggest that it's the most dreadful amplifier of any kind ever created in the history of the universe. If I owned one, I'd pay you €339 to take it away.

Karl Hungus

Eoin Madsen wrote: »

I don't want to exaggerate here, but I'd go so far as to suggest that it's the most dreadful amplifier of any kind ever created in the history of the universe. If I owned one, I'd pay you €339 to take it away.

Nah, the MG is far worse.

Eoin Madsen

Karl Hungus wrote: »

Nah, the MG is far worse.

It's like comparing dog faeces and cat faeces.

BostonB

Is anyone qoing to suggest an alternative in that price range?

novarock

little bit more cash, but a valveking is 550 euro on thomann, definitely more bang for your buck, or you could check through the buy and sell (www.buyandsell.ie) i got a JCM 900 combo for €550 through it.

The other thing is do you have the need for an amp that big?

The_g-man

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Have yet to hear this range in person, but it's closer to your budget and should be plenty loud.;)

Eoin Madsen

BostonB wrote: »

Is anyone qoing to suggest an alternative in that price range?

You make a good point.

Personally, I wouldn't touch a valve amp in that price range, unless it's single ended. Something digital modelling definitely - Line 6, Vox, or Roland, probably.

BostonB

Eoin Madsen wrote: »

You make a good point.

Personally, I wouldn't touch a valve amp in that price range, unless it's single ended. Something digital modelling definitely - Line 6, Vox, or Roland, probably.

You mean like the ad50vt he has?

Eoin Madsen

BostonB wrote: »

You mean like the ad50vt he has?

Yes. If that one is not to his taste, there are plenty of others.

BostonB

I'm sure there are. I'm so long off the scene I have no idea which ones though. One or two of the vids on the web with Marshall AVT sounded ok, but I've never tried one myself.

Eoin Madsen

Tbh, a line6 spider does a far more convincing Marshall sound than an AVT.

BostonB

Everything I read on the web contradicts the next thing. Some people say line 6 are great, other they are terrible. Some say the Marshalls AVTs are bad, then others say you can get a good Marshall sound from them with some tweaking. Theres also mixed reports about the reliability of each brand too. Ditto the other brands.

I'm thinking now it largely depends on the person using the gear and if everything comes together they love their gear. If someone has a mismatch then they hate it. Also lots of people seem to want that nu-metal "wasp in jar" sound and are happy with very artificial and over processed distorsion.

I think your probably better going with a amp with a clean channel and tone you like, and buy a decent pedal, for distorsion and/or effects.

Ger the man

BostonB wrote: »

Everything I read on the web contradicts the next thing. Some people say line 6 are great, other they are terrible. Some say the Marshalls AVTs are bad, then others say you can get a good Marshall sound from them with some tweaking. Theres also mixed reports about the reliability of each brand too. Ditto the other brands.

I'm thinking now it largely depends on the person using the gear and if everything comes together they love their gear. If someone has a mismatch then they hate it. Also lots of people seem to want that nu-metal "wasp in jar" sound and are happy with very artificial and over processed distorsion.

I think your probably better going with a amp with a clean channel and tone you like, and buy a decent pedal, for distorsion and/or effects.

+1.