what do you make of these?

iamhunted

We currently working on an investigation and these two evps have cropped up. the first one is a laugh that to be honest really sounds like someone taking the piss - but there were three people there at the time in a locked up premises and no-one else. it wasnt one of the three people. the second one is an investigator on his own asking questions. there is an answer that he didnt hear at the time.

heres the links:

The one with the laugh in it

The one with the answer in it

Im just curious as to what people make of these. we cant really say much more about where they were recorded until we're finished and get permission to publish the results on the site ....

Peyton Manning

Links dont work?

iamhunted

they should be OK now ....

iamhunted

yes. they work indeed.

well I thought they were interesting anyway.

The first one laughing is clearly the guy who was talking as its in time with his breathing as well as sounding like him . Maybe he forgot he did it. I do the exact same laugh .

The second one i cant make out .

iamhunted

The man in question begs to differ about the laugh. I'll be honest, to me the laugh and the investigators voice are spaced differently - it sounds like the laugh comes from the opposite end of the room. the audio is taken off a video and the impression I get is that the laugh comes from behind the camera, whereas the investigator is in front of the camera. the cameramans voice is the very first voice you hear and, since he's holding the camera, his voice is much louder. None of them remember hearing the voice at the time. the plan is to go back there again and try to replicate the laugh to find out what part of the room it may have come from.

the second one is a noise/sound/maybe voice which again wasnt heard at the time. the investogator sat in the room for maybe 30 mins asking questions out loud. he thought he had no reponse until listening to the playback. theres no power in this part of the building so it definitey isnt any kind of electrical switch or appliance.

thanks for the feedback though. we've no idea what to make of these really.

kshiel

Jamhunted can you remind me was the one with the laugh taken near where appliances were, as it sounds more like a fridge noise to me.


Danny let me listen to that other one on the recorder and it sounds so much better and clearer, that one is interesting. On the recorder it does sound like someone/thing voice or sound been filtered through something if that makes sense?

iamhunted

the laugh is in the gym which hasnt any power as it hasnt been rented out for years so I dont think its electrical. i want to have a go at recreating that on friday night - even just to see where in the room the sound came from

Havermeyer

Are you serious? You honestly think or would even consider these noises being that of a ghost? How appropriate that there was a nice long pause before the 'questionable sounds' occurred. That's what annoys me about the paranormal. This sort of lame hoaxing actually hinders the 'real researchers' investigations.

iamhunted

we recorded those ourselves so if you think we're "lame hoax .."ers then thats no skin off my nose. doesnt get around the fact they arent hoaxes though.

explain to me how you're so sure these recordings have been faked. You think we spend hours reviewing audio and video just for s_hits and giggles then or what? if you cant be constructive then please at least back up your claims of hoaxing. I do hope you take me up on the offer as I'm interested in how you reached your conclusions.

How appropriate that there was a nice long pause before the 'questionable sounds' occurred.

I dont see the link with this. Is there a time requirement in the length of a pause or what am i missing here?

6th

I think what nummnuts might be suggesting is that these could easily be hoaxed and to someone who doesnt know you guys there is no reason to believe any different.

Having dealt with you on here I would have no doubt that there is no intention to misguide people with any of your findings but really this stuff can only ever mean something to those there at the time.

iamhunted

the same logic applies to everything 6th - its hard to take for fact anything that anyone on the web posts in reality. I dont mind people not believing us - thats a natural human reaction most researchers would be familiar with that - but i dont really like it when someone basically just states that we are basically lying. - back the claim up and at least it can be debated but its not on (in my book) to lambast the work we've put in. As far as I am aware this is a paranormal forum and the links in this thread are the results of one of our paranormal investigations so its conceivable to expect a bit more than nummnuts contributed.

Anyway - I get the vibe that its not a good idea to post findings on here as basically if you do end up with (what to me is) convincing evidence no-one will believe ye anyway ....

kshiel

Ok I think numnuts that was a bit harsh but maybe you just phased it wrong, I know these guys have put hours apon hours of going through this stuff not to included time taken to go and do the work in the first place. It goes without saying that what was got on these recordings might not be a spirit and placing them on here might give us a broader insight to what they could be and that is what they are trying to do.

We are heading back this friday so maybe something might be sought out to what they are or hopefully some more findings got who knows but thats the fun of it.

6th

iamhunted wrote: »

Anyway - I get the vibe that its not a good idea to post findings on here as basically if you do end up with (what to me is) convincing evidence no-one will believe ye anyway ....

Then thats the wrong vibe, there are plenty of us on here like yourself and myself who value these findings and the effort people put into getting them but there will always be people questioning results. When they do it in a way that is against the charter the option is always there to just report the posts.

EVP is an easy one to dismiss because are obvious a word/noise is to one person it can sound like something else to another. Its almost like seeing shapes in clouds - an audio simulacra if you will.

iamhunted

ah - my hissey fit is now officially over. it just pisses me off that instead of discussion on what may have actually been recorded and (more importantly) what methods could be used to try and reason out the results, you get insinuations that we're nothing but a bunch of hoaxers. that annoyed me as it would annoy anyone else in this field.

As Kim said, we're going back in to check this out again on Friday. No-one has been hoaxing and those recordings are genuine so we're interested in seeing if we can get anything else and personally I want to test out that laugh scenario and see just where one would have to be in the room (distance from the camera, in which direction etc) to have made that laugh in the recording.

Take a close listen to the second one. I had it looped last night just around the actual sound. It seems to fade in rather quickly - theres some form of tone very low then it builds into the noise on the recording. If someone made the noise physically I'd say it would just come straight in at a volume rather than almost fading in. same time, I can say what it would sounds like to anyone else, but thats the way I hear it.

Well lets be honest about it. All you have is sound of somebody laughing. There is no video a or anything else. If you are doing the investigation as a bit of fun, you need to do alot more work. Spend a bit more money, annoying i know but what can you do :rolleyes:

iamhunted

lets be honest, all we have is sounds on audio nobody heard at the time (taken ironically from video - which didnt show anything).

we've invested quite a few euro in various audio and video devices, walkie talkies etc. I'd say we're as well equipped as any group in Ireland.

Im not too sure what you expect really (outside of bits of EVP on audio - i dont know of anyone who has captured many ghosts on video) as you know, these ghosty things arent renowned for sitting down and doing interviews on video or anything :rolleyes: The sound of someone laughing who wasnt there makes me sit up and start to wonder.

iamhunted

6th wrote: »

EVP is an easy one to dismiss because are obvious a word/noise is to one person it can sound like something else to another. Its almost like seeing shapes in clouds - an audio simulacra if you will.

the first one has a clear, distinct laugh in it that didnt come from any of the three people present. Its a bit hard to get that confused with audio matrixing - not that I want to bang on about this.

On a seperate note - In future I'll keep investigation updates confined to our own forum since we know the sounds are real and wish to work out how they got on the recordings. I not interested in being told we faked it, we're hearing things or we should have recorded the ghost on video before anyone believes us.

This thread really hasnt impressed upon me any reason to post info over here considering I could post it anywhere to get ridiculed.

kshiel

Deleted User wrote: »

Well lets be honest about it. All you have is sound of somebody laughing. There is no video a or anything else. If you are doing the investigation as a bit of fun, you need to do alot more work. Spend a bit more money, annoying i know but what can you do :rolleyes:

How about people comment on what they think the sound could be instead of taking a punch about how it was got or what is not there. They cannot go back to that particular night and change what ever happened they can only now work with what they got and advance and learn.

Having fun on an investigation does not make it less proffessional only more enjoyable after all whats work without some enjoyment :rolleyes:

I know there are geniune people here who are interested in findings and are capable of giving their opinion without resorting to insults and those are the ones who would keep people coming back on site. I would tolerate the odd comment from people who just dont know us or could care less as they are intitled to their opinion as well as whats life without variety

littlebug

Iamhunted.. what was the question in the second one?

iamhunted

that was danny asking "are you female?" he followed that up with numerous other questions as he wasnt aware of a response at the time

littlebug

iamhunted wrote: »

that was danny asking "are you female?" he followed that up with numerous other questions as he wasnt aware of a response at the time

hmmm ... it could sound like a breathy high pitched woman's voice saying "yeah" or maybe not.. could be something falling or just an electrical sound. I think trying to recreate it is a good idea.
The first one is clearly santa claus .

Out of interest.. has anyone ever tried calling out and recording in your own home?

iamhunted

i'd assume danny would have heard something falling - plus theres no electrical power in that particular place - power is cut off from the street. Never really tried trying to communicate with anything at home (too close for comfort) though a visitor to the house once did.

iamhunted

littlebug wrote: »

The first one is clearly santa claus .

Personally ive no idea whats going on in the first one. the three who were there swear they didnt hear anything and that they didnt make the laugh themselves.

looksee

I could not make out a single word of the spoken parts, so maybe its not surprising that other sounds are difficult to identify. Its a bit like that visual thing where a person will try to make a face out of anything they can't otherwise identify.

6th

6th wrote: »

EVP is an easy one to dismiss because are obvious a word/noise is to one person it can sound like something else to another. Its almost like seeing shapes in clouds - an audio simulacra if you will.

looksee wrote: »

Its a bit like that visual thing where a person will try to make a face out of anything they can't otherwise identify.

Its very easy to do without thinking about it.

looksee

6th wrote: »

Its very easy to do without thinking about it.

Exactly

6th

Thats not to say it is the case in any or all incedents.

WindSock

What is being said in the first one? The laugh sounds like a Dracula laugh, menacing. And the second one doesn't sound vocal to me, just more of a random noise.
What type of place were you in and it's history?

iamhunted

thats the boys and their dublin accents - in the first one the talking means nothing .. its just the fact theres a laugh in there that no-one remembers hearing at the time. Normally if the camera is recording or if audio is recording, any strange noises made by those present get mentioned - so basically someone would have made a reference to the laugh if they had heard it at the time and then checked to see who may have done it. From the reports from the people who where there, none of them made the laugh and none of them remember hearing anyone laughing. thats the puzzle in that one as the place is pretty insulated from outside sound and they were locked in for the night.

The second, the question is 'are you female'. The team member was on his own and again, heard nothing all the time he was in there - as in no bangs, knocks or sounds that normally would be commented on if heard at the time. It was only after when he listened back that he heard the noise, whatever it is (sounds like 'no' to me, but that could be as mentioned by 6th earlier) - but the point again is that the team member there at the time didnt hear any kind of sound. In fact he got bored after about 30 mins and left that part of the place.

The place is in Carlow and has a bit of a history alright - we done our last visit this weekend so we dont want to say anything about where it is until we get permission from the owners when we show them the things we've found. Its going to take a week or so to go over the audio and video from friday night.