Fiat Punto

IncredibleHulk

Hi

I am considering a 00 Punto 5 door 1.2 car. It is in very good condition very clean. Cost is 3,400 euro. Anyone know if that is a good price? I know its hard to say not seeing it but any ideas?

Thanks

tuxy

I don't think it's a good price at all. You could get a 00 Corolla for that money and Toyota's hold their value much better then fiats. Is it with a garage or private sale?

wba88

model? mileage? condition? etc

IncredibleHulk

it is a garage sale. and sorry I meant to put mileage there are 50,000miles. Model not sure - door Punto

"You could get a 00 Corolla for that money and Toyota's hold their value much better then fiats" How much should I offer them?

Have not seen 00 reg corollas for that money?

Masada

you can get the same car a fair bit cheaper if you look around.,

mthd

You should be able to find something cheaper,
I paid 2200 for a 00, 5door punto with 53k miles about 6 months ago

IncredibleHulk

mthd wrote: »

You should be able to find something cheaper,
I paid 2200 for a 00, 5door punto with 53k miles about 6 months ago

In good nick? Clean?

mthd

IncredibleHulk wrote: »

In good nick? Clean?

yeah, pretty much spotless

IncredibleHulk

mthd wrote: »

yeah, pretty much spotless

Good for you you think 220 might be an offer? They were allowing me 500 euro on my car and wanted 2950 as well. So waht shoulsd i offer with my car assuming my car is worth 500

woop

have you driven one?
I got driving lessons in one and didnt like it to drive, the seats are really soft and the steering too senstitive, just didnt feel right yknow, however the new ones are nicer but as the person above said they dont hold theyre money
just my opinion though

still I suppose theyd get you around alright

IncredibleHulk

I drove that one today and another older one last week. Much prefer the one today. I like the steering

Someone said a corolla would be got for the money they want for the Punto. But cbg,ie says average price for 00 Corolla is 5706 euro

Masada

they have city steering, if you turn that off the steering isnt so light., personally id rather have the older punto, they look better and are more reliable than the mk2.,

eamon234

I'd avoid that model Punto like the plague - I know at least 5 people who had the same year and model and they all had problems with them - mostly electrical - a Fiesta would be your best bet IMO - just go for the Zetec engine - OK they're not the prettiest car in the world or the most comfortable but they're pretty reliable and can be got for around the same price.
I wouldn't rely too much on "average" figures on CBG they're not gospel there are cars a lot cheaper than that average price on the site and Carzone so check them all and bear in mind most dealers will just want shut of these cars so there's a bit of room to haggle.

Masada

their not nearly as bad as people make them out to be, there was a few recalls on them and at that ages its most likely had everything sorted on it.,

EternalSunshine

Go for a VW polo instead. All things being equal you will probably want to change it after a year or so and with the vw you should not have any problems with it and more importantly should be easy to sell.

cazzy

My sister paid 2800 for a 5 door 00 punto with 55k miles on it 2 years ago. she doesnt drive much at all (its usually just parked) and it was fine for the first year other than a few small things but then developed electrical problems which she still hasnt been able to fix (most mechanics dont deal with electrics and its expensive to get them fixed)

i paid 4000 for a 3 door 01 punto last feb (it has none of the fancy electrics - manual windows and locks). everyone though i was mad but it was taxed for a year just ncted only had 48k miles on it and a mechanic gave it the all clear so i bought it. never had an ounch of trouble with it. Its a great little car, very nippy for city driving and the city button is great. Its also very economical on petrol. I travel long journeys on it and ive never had any problems with it. I learned to drive in it and passd my test in it.

I wouldnt buy withut getting a mechanc to look at it though. Youd get a cheaper punto on private sale (try local newpapers or website)
i was offered a 2002 punto last year for 2,800 but when a mechanic looked at it he could tell it had been crashed, the price was too good to be true !

Good luck with buying a car.

I think some 5 door puntos (2000 as far as i know) did have problems so maybe reseach this more.

drdre

3400 is a very expensive price.Look around.I got offered a 00 punto 2 months ago for only 2200 but i didnt take it as i got a better car instead.So there is bargains to be got.

Masada

Good luck with buying a car.

I think some 5 door puntos (2000 as far as i know) did have problems so maybe reseach this more.

not just the 5 dr, there are known to be common faults with both of them, one of them is the electric power steering can fail aswell as ECU/electric problems but as already said its likely that these problems have already occoured and been sorted,.,

dudara

3,400 is a little pricey for the car, although the mileage is reasonable. I'd aim to offer a bit less (maybe start at E2,700 and work up from there) and see what happpens.

For the sake of comparison, I drive a 99 Punto (older body than the 00) which I bought for E1,800 with 55k miles on the clock. The salesman was looking for E2,100 but there was a problem with the alternator, so I got it for cheaper. I've had it just over a year, the clock is now over 80k miles and it's going fine.

L-M

I think definitly the price is too much. a friend of mine was going to buy a 00 Fiat Punto, with a big enough scratch on the left rear hand door.... It was going for 1750 with 60,000ish miles.... And i'm sure they were in for bargainin...look around..

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=822659

That's only an example... But i would definitly reccomend buyin off a dealer... That way u have something to fall back on just in case:D

IncredibleHulk

Limerick-man wrote: »

I think definitly the price is too much. a friend of mine was going to buy a 00 Fiat Punto, with a big enough scratch on the left rear hand door.... It was going for 1750 with 60,000ish miles.... And i'm sure they were in for bargainin...look around..

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=822659

That's only an example... But i would definitly reccomend buyin off a dealer... That way u have something to fall back on just in case:D

Thanks everyone for input

Limerick- man. That is a nice car but a private seller = no comeback and it is a 3 door.The one at http://cars.rte.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=770230 is almost identical to the one I was looking at.

I do not understand the great variation in prices except it must be dealer profit. I am not going to pay 3450 anyway. Not sure if i will buy

L-M

I tell u something for nothing, i work in a dealership and anything small is always "worth loads". most dealers will keep a big margin on something like a fiat incase it does come back for warranty work:D

Rob67

I had a '00, gave me nothing but grief. After replacing the shocks after a week, I had to get the Lambda sensor replaced, then the ECU had to be reset 4 times so as to let it know that the Lambda had been done, then the water pump was replaced as it leaked. Got the timing belt done at the same time as the car had 69k on the clock. Finally to cap it all off... the head gasket went!! Sold it to a dealer I knew and he had nothing but trouble with it too.

Having said that, they are cheap and cheerful and a reasonable city car, but only the 16 valve version is worth buying.

My advice.. buy a polo/ starlet/ Ibiza/ Yaris/ Corolla anything but a 00 Punto.

Have good 'un!

woop

ah, I agree with a starlet, styling not cool but its a toyota!
(expensive but reliable)

IncredibleHulk

Limerick-man wrote: »

I tell u something for nothing, i work in a dealership and anything small is always "worth loads". most dealers will keep a big margin on something like a fiat incase it does come back for warranty work:D

what does "worth loads" mean? Have you any more secrets?

L-M

IncredibleHulk wrote: »

what does "worth loads" mean? Have you any more secrets?

Haha just if u look at any small car for sale via a dealer they're always overly price... I know a fella sellin a 00 polo for six...That's jus one example...Keep an eye out u'll see wha i'm on about

dudara

IncredibleHulk wrote: »

what does "worth loads" mean?

Small cars are always in demand by female drivers, learners and older drivers. Hence dealerships can sell them for a bit more.

Undercoverguy

Punto = Evil
Punto = Costly
Punto = Worst Eight Months of my Life*

*See my past posts





*shudders*

Kfitz

IncredibleHulk wrote: »

Hi

I am considering a 00 Punto 5 door 1.2 car. It is in very good condition very clean. Cost is 3,400 euro. Anyone know if that is a good price? I know its hard to say not seeing it but any ideas?

Thanks

I'm trying to sell my punto as I'm leaving the country soon. I'm looking to sell it for €2,000. If you are interested, give me a bell, 086 3178374

Kfitz

Kfitz wrote: »

I'm trying to sell my punto as I'm leaving the country soon. I'm looking to sell it for €2,000. If you are interested, give me a bell, 086 3178374

Sorry, forgot to say its the same year and model as the one you viewed.

IncredibleHulk

Kfitz wrote: »

Sorry, forgot to say its the same year and model as the one you viewed.

How many doors?
when nct out?
where are you dublin?
is there a fsh?
ever crashed?
what reg D?
Thanks

085 1568031

2stageturbo

Clutch,ECU,and head gasket will give you grief.;)
Not worth the hassle.
Steer well clear'

JAP-JAP-JAP:):)

sc4rf4ce

id have to agree with that last post there. ive had a punto for the last few months. id never ever go near one again.
i got the car with a failed slave cylinder, which wasnt too bad. but everything has seized in it, making servicing it a nightmare. and now to top things off i think the fuel pump has died. bloody car wont start.
your best off with either German or Jap. Prefereably Jap import. My previous 2 were jap imports and were bullet proof. But some scangers robbed my last car, leaving me with a fiat as a temporary car.

IncredibleHulk

sc4rf4ce wrote: »

id have to agree with that last post there. ive had a punto for the last few months. id never ever go near one again.
i got the car with a failed slave cylinder, which wasnt too bad. but everything has seized in it, making servicing it a nightmare. and now to top things off i think the fuel pump has died. bloody car wont start.
your best off with either German or Jap. Prefereably Jap import. My previous 2 were jap imports and were bullet proof. But some scangers robbed my last car, leaving me with a fiat as a temporary car.

I do not understand the negativity around Puntos. I do not disbelieve you but have to balance your view with my experience or rather friends of mine who have had Puntos. One has one from 1999 bought new and she is not the type to hang on to a car that is not good value

sc4rf4ce

i never had an opinion on them until i got one. you could get lucky and have one that rarely gives any problems but from the majority of people ive talked that have owned puntos have all had nothing but bad things to say.
on a positive note, i would say that when they are working fully. they are very comfortable to drive.
but as soon as i get my punto sorted, im selling it and going back to a jap car.

IncredibleHulk

Ok fair enough. Hope you sell Punto but not to me

dudara

The head gasket did go on mine, but luckily my Dad repaired it. I wasn't too upset though because it is a 99 car and the head gaskets are a known problem. Otherwise I've never had any issues, other than what is required as part of regular maintenance on an old car.

IncredibleHulk

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=627438

What do you guys think of the above

colm_mcm

If you're looking at Puntos go for at least the ELX or Elegance models. The basic black bumper model is just too bare, you might as well get a few extras as there are so many Puntos out there. Aim for a HLX 16v model if you can find one.

Mailman

from looking, half the cars advertised as HLX spec on carzone are, when you look closer, only ELX spec and 8v at that not even 16v.

colm_mcm

the HLX is 5 door only, and can be easily identified from the ELX by colour coded electric mirrors, alloys and sunroof.

ELX 16v was only available in the UK AFAIK, tried to order one in 2000 and was told they weren't doing them. (Good excuse to buy a Sporting!)

miju

2stageturbo wrote: »

Clutch,ECU,and head gasket will give you grief.;)
Not worth the hassle.
Steer well clear'

have to agree, my missus is driving a 00 punto for the last 2 years. so far she's had to get the engine skimmed , head gasket has gone , both wipers keep popping out and now the clutch has gotten really stiff (though WD40 seems to have solved that one temporarily)

its really does seam the old saying of FIAT stands for Fix It Again Tomorrow is true

colm_mcm

My favourites are

Found In A Tip

or

F**king Italians Assembled This

miju

colm_mcm wrote: »

F**king Italians Assembled This

I drive an Alfa so can't really use this one myself :D:D

colm_mcm

...because they forgot to assemble it?

miju

lol

Earth Worm Jim

I would look at other cars first, the punt is usualy the cheapest in its class but not the best, though some can be aright,

a mate of mine traded in a 01 punto with 58,000 on the clock in jan and was given 1100 yoyos on the trade in, it was in mint condition.

I have a punto van 1.8 diesel and while its a lovely van to drive, the electrics and immobilizer give loads of problems and at the moment its f'cked, ecu and lock set needed for it, not worth fixing - might sell for parts.

I have just sold a 99 clio 3dr ex condition with less than 20k on the clock (genuine miles) 2,500 yoyos and I have a 99 corsa good con with 40k on the clock for 2,500 yoyos, so thats the ball park I would be looking to pay.

woop

Posted by IncredibleHulk

http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index...r&carID=627438

What do you guys think of the above

that ones alright its funny how you say youve got no comeback with a private sale that is true although I seem the other way I just cant trust a dealer.......I say just look at everything, private or not, just get a feel for the car youre thinking of buying its easier to spot a genuine one then, get a mechanic to go with you aswell
was looking at getting one myself a while back
heres a nice one, bit boy racery but still a reasonably good looking car
http://www.cbg.ie/Cardetail.aspx?CBGID=778059&ID=1437768&NumPics=3&Make=Toyota&Model=Starlet&frmFilter=#

IncredibleHulk

woop wrote: »

Posted by IncredibleHulk

.... got no comeback with a private sale that is true although I seem the other way I just cant trust a dealer.......

I know, you can't trust anyone when it comes to buying a car. I feel quite tired from listening to dealers lies and bull, how they can keep it up each day amazes me:D