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Sex for promotion !!

  • 19-10-2007 2:22pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8


    promotion is upcoming and good looking girl is offering a 'good time' if I
    give her the job!
    I have no intention of falling for her advances, as i believe that the position should be given to the best person for the job and not based on sexual favours! Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    are you positive she was serious?

    you need to tell someone your senior in work if she was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Hobart


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    promotion is upcoming and good looking girl is offering a 'good time' if I
    give her the job!
    I have no intention of falling for her advances, as i believe that the position should be given to the best person for the job and not based on sexual favours! Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?

    Hoe did you react when she offered this good time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    That is hilarious...sounds like a girl i know...and make no mistake about it, the girl I know will "ride" her way up the top...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭ats


    PeakOutput wrote: »
    are you positive she was serious?

    you need to tell someone your senior in work if she was

    seconded. if she doesn't get it maybe she'll make up some story that you approached her and said if she gave you a good time you'd make sure she got the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I have never met any women like this, my life is so empty

    on a more serious note tell her that the job will go to the most qualified applicant. Take notes, times, days etc of any other inappropriate behaviour so you have a solid case if it all goes pear shaped

    There is the chance she fancies you and was messing about the good time just flirting with you. Be careful with this one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Dinxminx


    Vegeta wrote: »
    Be careful with this one

    Seconded!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    put in for a better offer, see if she's willing to offer "good times" instead.

    once will never be enough.


  • Legal Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 5,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭Maximilian


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    promotion is upcoming and good looking girl is offering a 'good time' if I
    give her the job!
    I have no intention of falling for her advances, as i believe that the position should be given to the best person for the job and not based on sexual favours! Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?

    I'd give her the job if it were me and enjoy the perquisites of my position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I'd officially report it as its sexual harrassment, if you said anything like that to her, she could have you in front of a committee etc in a flash. And maybe she might do something like that in future to someone hence thats more than just a joke, thats not right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 829 ✭✭✭McGinty


    Jeez I thought those days were over, I would agree with some of the other views, report her for sexual harrasment, she is disgracing the name of women with her behaviour, but if she is willing to **** her way to the top, she will also be willing to damage you jobwise, someone who has so few principles is in my opinion dangerous, guard your back.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭syberspud


    I'd hit it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,149 ✭✭✭✭Lemming


    McGinty wrote: »
    but if she is willing to **** her way to the top, she will also be willing to damage you jobwise, someone who has so few principles is in my opinion dangerous, guard your back.

    Whatever else has been said, the above ^^ is a given and I'd weigh up any actions I were to take with serious consideration for every possible outcome I could think of.

    Doesn't matter if it's male or female that you're dealing with, more the fact that in this case the offending party has shown themselves to be willing to do _anything_ to get ahead, and you can bet easy money on that including shafting you over in ways that may possibly tear your life apart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    Report the person to HR and insist that another member of staff be present at ALL future meetings with this person. If she gets to put her own spin on things it could leave a smear on your reputation that you can never shift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 313 ✭✭Dalfiatach


    Yup. Report her first thing Monday to HR. Trust me, she'll have absolutely no qualms about either kicking up a fuss and claiming you suggested it to her, got yer way then didn't give her the promotion; or alternatively not going official about it but spreading endless nasty rumours about you round the office.

    Vipers like this are totally ruthless. You seriously need to watch your back. Report her immediately, and keep a log of any other inappropriate behaviour in the lead-up to the promotion decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Have to agree with the others...you need to report this straight away...she could be the type to twist this somehow and ruin your reputation op.
    Be very careful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Yep, if have a "good time" and don't give the promotion, she'll twist things and ruin you.

    Now for "good times" is another story ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Roide her like billyo - and, then, give the promotion to the
    best qualified candidate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I wouldnt be so fast to report it. A denial is almost a certainty followed by a huge and long mess. If your not interested just make it clear to her and leave it at that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8 jaykay1628


    it gets better, was working late this evening on an important project and thought i was alone in the office..... then a knock on door and she arrives in with the shortest skirt & suspenders etc etc I have ever seen! (she usually wears a trouser suit!) She said that she forgot a file, and continued to bend to the lowest filing cabinet and exposed a no knicker job! I ignored the situation... and she said " do you like what you see..... I would love to have a good F++K over your desk this minute! To say I was shocked would be an understatement! Told her was not interested in any relationship with any work mate, to which she replied ..... "You will F++K me yet, because you lust after me" ..... TOTALLY UNTRUE, I TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME - M/F, STRAIGHT/GAY ETC ETC ..... I am so f'd up about this...
    J


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    well it is sexual harassment: you can always approach it that way.... although Much excited as I had gotten considering your last post :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Seriously GO TO HR!!! This is totally unacceptable, think if the situation was reversed and you'd come into her office with ur pants down or something similar?? Ud be sitting in a cell in the nearest garda station right now. U need to tell someone senior, if u have the mobile number of a manager or the like txt them this evening and tell them you need to sit down and discuss something serious first thing on monday morning. Get in before she has a chance to do anything!!! Watch ur back!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Overheal wrote: »
    well it is sexual harassment: you can always approach it that way.... although Much excited as I had gotten considering your last post :D
    Likewise. Also, if you did go ahead, the blackmail would be her "ace up the sleeve" in case anything went against her, or scream discrimination that you didn't give her the job, even after she gave you a "service". She'll use any time you two were alone (like the time above) against you: it'll be her word against yours. Just a warning to watch your back when dealing with someone who has no morals about getting a promotion.

    Finally, ensure you tell HR, and someone whom is higher than you, but doesn't have any say in who gets the job, as she has probably offered her "service" to a few more aside from you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 773 ✭✭✭echosound


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    it gets better, was working late this evening on an important project and thought i was alone in the office..... then a knock on door and she arrives in with the shortest skirt & suspenders etc etc I have ever seen! (she usually wears a trouser suit!) She said that she forgot a file, and continued to bend to the lowest filing cabinet and exposed a no knicker job! I ignored the situation... and she said " do you like what you see..... I would love to have a good F++K over your desk this minute! To say I was shocked would be an understatement! Told her was not interested in any relationship with any work mate, to which she replied ..... "You will F++K me yet, because you lust after me" ..... TOTALLY UNTRUE, I TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME - M/F, STRAIGHT/GAY ETC ETC ..... I am so f'd up about this...
    J

    Jesus for the love of god report this to a senior or HR. These actions alone should disqualify her for any promotion, and could even mean a severe warning or even firing for her, due to gross misconduct. Imagine it was the other way round for a second - you tell her she can have the promotion if you can do her over the desk - tribunal here we come. Bear in mind also if you walked into a room, bent over and showed her your unfettered goods you'd be up in court on serious sexual harrassment charges.

    If she's willing to prostitute herself for the sake of a promotion, then she's clearly not going to worry one bit about a few little lies should she take the notion, and take you out with a few well-placed allegations to clear the path for her ascent up the ladder.

    Write all of this down, times, dates, what happened, and present it to your superiors ASAP before it turns against you - do you have CCTV in your place? Imagine how it could look if you (the person with the power to promote) were captured looking at her - after hours on your own together- in her suspenders and her goods on show bending over? All she needs to do is say you asked her to do it in return for giving her the promotion. Kiss bye bye to your career.
    Seriously though - if you brought it to management's attention that an employee was acting like this, I doubt they'd really want a person like her in their organisation representing their company, unless they happen to be called Pimpco or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dampsquid


    lol.. troll tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Do it, report her, deny it, live the dream. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭davej


    Watch out Bilbo, there's a Troll at the top of this thread..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    cheesedude wrote:
    That is hilarious...sounds like a girl i know...and make no mistake about it, the girl I know will "ride" her way up the top...
    ntlbell wrote:
    put in for a better offer, see if she's willing to offer "good times" instead.

    once will never be enough.
    Maximilian wrote:
    I'd give her the job if it were me and enjoy the perquisites of my position.
    syberspud wrote:
    I'd hit it.
    unroggggie wrote:
    Roide her like billyo - and, then, give the promotion to the
    best qualified candidate.
    :rolleyes: Idiocy

    OP, tread carefully. As others have pointed out, imagine if the genders were reversed. Unfortunately, the law has demonstrated, on numerous occasions, a bias in favour of women.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭kaizersoze1980


    does anyone seriously believe this crap? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    if TIS true -- other posters are correct in telling you to inform HR or higher people asap... as the longer you leave it and the more 'incidents' happen...the less likely they are to believe that you have nothing to do with the situation.
    They'll wonder why you didn't come forward before..on the first offering of 'favours' by this lady


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭Rosita


    You need to record what you are writing here. As someone said, a denial is inevitable if you raise the matter with HR without some sort of evidence. Then it's your word against hers and the truth becomes a side-issue. And whether we like to acknowledge it or not, not many will believe that a "good looking girl" will be sexually harassing a male colleague irrespective of circumstances.

    If you had someone in work to confide in who could genuinely keep schtum about it (very difficult to find that as I am usually of the opinion that a secret is no longer a secret if known by more than one person) as you might need third-party evidence of some description. A discreet e-mail to her asking her to stop might be (a) good for the record just in case and (b) put the wind up her. It also might kick her into harassing you over email (if she's dumb enough) and then you have more or less unrebuttable evidence. This is top of the head stuff and might backfire if she makes an allegation about you over the email so it bears thinking about.

    The performance this evening implies serious mental issues on her part so caution is definitely required and as someone else said being alone with her is not a good idea. Succumbing to her "charms" would be disastrous as worst-case-scenario you might end up with the choice between a promotion for her and a sexual assault allegation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    does anyone seriously believe this crap? :rolleyes:
    It seems a bit soap opera-ish all right, but that doesn't mean it's beyond the realms of possibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Do it.

    I'll let you decide what "it" is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭MrPillowTalk


    lol porn trolling FTW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Dudess wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Idiocy

    How is what I said idiocy? It's the truth, I do know a girl like that and she will succeed in doing that because there are a lot of weak and wealthy men out there in power.

    So go sort yourself out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    cheesedude wrote: »
    ... I do know a girl like that and she will succeed in doing that because there are a lot of weak and wealthy men out there in power

    Yep agree totally. Having gone out with an "office" girl for 5 years and attended plenty of "after work drinks" I know plenty of girls like the one above who will stop at nothing to get where they want. Most of them will openly admit it. And likewise I know plenty of 50+ year old execs quite willing to oblige.

    I don't necessarily think that these girls are the sort to "shout rape", so to speak, if it doesn't work out though (Not the ones I knew anyway). They know what they want and getting involved in legal procedures is not going to help their cause. With the girls I knew money was not the motivation though, it was simply getting ahead of the other girls. The bitchiness between them was unreal, and quiet comical sometimes.

    I think in a situation like the OP's he should definitely tell someone in the office but not necessarily "report" it, just make sure someone is aware of whats going on. Having said that I don't think the OP is genuine anyway. The second post was far to dramatic and if he works in an office environment he knows this sort of stuff is common practice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭empirix


    Personally i'd arrange that i'd give her the job if she gave me at least 20 jobs and 20 rodeos, providing she's good looking:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    cheesedude wrote: »
    How is what I said idiocy? It's the truth, I do know a girl like that and she will succeed in doing that because there are a lot of weak and wealthy men out there in power.

    So go sort yourself out.
    But you didn't give the OP any advice, just made a remark.
    To be fair though, it's not as idiotic as:
    empirix wrote:
    Personally i'd arrange that i'd give her the job if she gave me at least 20 jobs and 20 rodeos, providing she's good looking
    I don't know how so many posters are getting Personal Issues confused with After Hours. And these comments "yeah, I'd ride her" etc aren't even funny. They're just painfully, painfully predictable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 381 ✭✭El_mariachi


    and fairly stupid.. if you have sex with her and dont give her the job she will cry sexual harrasment...so report her and let her get what she deserves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    it gets better, was working late this evening on an important project and thought i was alone in the office..... then a knock on door and she arrives in with the shortest skirt & suspenders etc etc I have ever seen! (she usually wears a trouser suit!) She said that she forgot a file, and continued to bend to the lowest filing cabinet and exposed a no knicker job! I ignored the situation... and she said " do you like what you see..... I would love to have a good F++K over your desk this minute! To say I was shocked would be an understatement! Told her was not interested in any relationship with any work mate, to which she replied ..... "You will F++K me yet, because you lust after me" ..... TOTALLY UNTRUE, I TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME - M/F, STRAIGHT/GAY ETC ETC ..... I am so f'd up about this...
    J
    Just go and report her. Men are not allowed sexually harass women just like men are not allowed sexually harass women. It will come back and kick you in the balls if you do not report this now. There will be questions asked when she reports you for sexual harassment because the promotion did not go to her - even though it is her doing the harassing it will be a black mark against you even if her claim is proven to be false.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭milkerman


    I have seen two women advance their careers through shagging the boss. However, they were subtle and their advancement was guaranteed not solely through sex but by exploiting their bosses affections.
    Personally I think the advance as described by the OP was clumsy at best and does not fit the MO of a 'career slapper'.
    It sounds more like the script for a Porn flick, I can almost hear the shyte soundtrack & dubbing now....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭estar


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    promotion is upcoming and good looking girl is offering a 'good time' if I
    give her the job!
    I have no intention of falling for her advances, as i believe that the position should be given to the best person for the job and not based on sexual favours! Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?

    i would be very careful with this girl as she seems capable of anything.
    which would also mean getting you into trouble.

    i would personally avoid any one on one contact with her in future
    and all meetings etc would be conducted with another member of staff
    present. i wouldnt make this obvious. thats just the way i would handle it.
    well done on not taking her up on her charming offer. it would mean a big
    load of trouble, but you were smart enough to see that.

    i would offer the job to someone else with some integrity, personal
    values, and ability unrelated to spreading them.

    but thats just me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    empirix Consider yourself warned following your inappropriate and crass comment.

    This thread may well be a troll. And then again, it may not be so. In either case, I am content to leave it open for posting as it does concern a topic that we don't see too often here in PI - namely the sexual harassment of males.

    To the OP, as has been previously pointed out to you, there is only one logical and correct course of action available to you. You must notify HR in person and in writing of your issues with this employee and furthermore request that you are never unattended with her in a work situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    For those saying troll etc: there is a report function you can use. Do not make comments within thread.
    That is a general warning.

    I have seen this happen once or twice .

    Either for improved grades, to access workbooks, to improve sales figures or for promotion.

    i have also had to successfully defend myself from somene who would do anything as i stood in her way for promotion. (though not in this context)

    OP: Do not go there, the poster who mentioned that you could be next has it exactly right. If you are not very careful you will be next.

    Noqw you are in this position: watch your back. If you accept she has power over you, if you dont she will be watching you.
    Whether you go to your superiors is up to you. At least then you have something on recird, so that shopuld you wake up one fine morning and she is waiting to hit you with something, then you have some comeback.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭pookie82


    I'm sorry.... is this for real??? I just thought that women like that died off a long time ago. You have to admit it sounds like somehing from Basic Instinct or the like. Report her IMMEDIATELY. Let the authorities take it from there. Tbh I'd also claim sexual harrassment and teach her a right lesson. if it were the other way around she'd do it in a heartbeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭sjaakie


    it s hard to believe that women will degrade themselves to these kind of things.

    it says a lot about her. no dignity, no self respect.

    anyways... go to HR first thing monday morning.

    what i personally would like to do aswell is: make it known to everybody in the office, a girl like that deserves some embarrasment, i mean: if she is so stupid to lower herself like she did!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭oneeyedsnake


    Dudess wrote: »
    But you didn't give the OP any advice, just made a remark.
    To be fair though, it's not as idiotic as:

    I don't know how so many posters are getting Personal Issues confused with After Hours. And these comments "yeah, I'd ride her" etc aren't even funny. They're just painfully, painfully predictable.

    I find them funny, as I'm sure others do. So please stop trying to piss on our parade little miss maturity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    oneeyedsnake banned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    promotion is upcoming and good looking girl is offering a 'good time' if I
    give her the job!
    I have no intention of falling for her advances, as i believe that the position should be given to the best person for the job and not based on sexual favours! Has anyone ever heard of anything like this before?


    I would report her to H.R. for sexual harassment in the work place.
    That sort of carry on is unprofessional and unacceptable in a work environment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Reku


    sjaakie wrote: »
    it s hard to believe that women will degrade themselves to these kind of things.

    it says a lot about her. no dignity, no self respect.

    anyways... go to HR first thing monday morning.

    what i personally would like to do aswell is: make it known to everybody in the office, a girl like that deserves some embarrasment, i mean: if she is so stupid to lower herself like she did!!!

    I'd be careful about making the whole thing too public as she may just try and twist it and the disbelieving responses here show who's side many will take.
    I have no difficulty believing this happened as:
    1. There's always one...
    2. Having worked in an office with majority males but still many females in their 20's and 30's there was one female who became rather prone to both announcing the colour of her underwear and showing it off alot, the other's noticing the attention she got from the males started to dress for similar exposure.


    Seriously just make sure HR are aware of her behaviour (usually such complaints are handled in a discrete fashion) and insist that you are never left alone with her. May also be worth requesting that someone else share the authority on picking who gets promoted to make it more difficult for her to claim that you promised her the job in exchange for sex and it may also deter her knowing that it'll now be twice as difficult to pull off and a get away with (it may also result in it being her word against 2 people instead of 1).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    jaykay1628 wrote: »
    it gets better, was working late this evening on an important project and thought i was alone in the office..... then a knock on door and she arrives in with the shortest skirt & suspenders etc etc I have ever seen! (she usually wears a trouser suit!) She said that she forgot a file, and continued to bend to the lowest filing cabinet and exposed a no knicker job! I ignored the situation... and she said " do you like what you see..... I would love to have a good F++K over your desk this minute! To say I was shocked would be an understatement! Told her was not interested in any relationship with any work mate, to which she replied ..... "You will F++K me yet, because you lust after me" ..... TOTALLY UNTRUE, I TREAT EVERYONE THE SAME - M/F, STRAIGHT/GAY ETC ETC ..... I am so f'd up about this...
    J
    if she wants it so much then next time you she comes into ur office beat her over the head with a gigantic dildo.......... than bunge it up her. should shut her up


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