Getting rid of flatmate

Pinker

Hi I have a lease on a three bed apartment and consequently I sublet the rooms when needs be,....recently I let an American guy move in, long story made short he is not the type of person I like to live with, no major issues just seriously inept social skills, seriously inept.....

Anyway I want to get rid of him, do I feed him some crap like my mate is moving in or do I come straight out with out and say bud this ain't working...for the record it's all legally sound as he has signed nothing so it's not an issue, and also my other flatmate feels the same as I do, the only question is how to execute it??...

hussey

Honesty
If you say "hey my mate is moving in" he could say "No"

if you say "hey your not very XYZ" he could say
"OK I don't live with these people, if they feel that way about me"

better to be honest so he might be aware of his shortcomings

tricky D

Pinker wrote: »

for the record it's all legally sound as he has signed nothing so it's not an issue,

Eh not really, careful now. It's may be a contract by practice, even with zero paper or signature (eg. leases which rollover with no explicit renewal, as happens almost all the time, are kinda contracts by practice). You need to check both of your rights, esp re subletting and your status as a landlord or not. Threshold should be a good start.

Living with the 'unwanted' is a right royal pain. Hopefully a quick chat will sort it out and get him on the move. Good luck

shoegirl

Sorry mate but he has rights. He can't be dumped out just because you don't like him. I can sympathize as I've lived with loads of psychos....but in all honesty, they were far more extreme....such as not paying rent/bills on time (or at all) or being really filthy in the extreme.

Have a chat with him and tell him you guys are not happy with him. To be honest your only bet here is to threaten to move out, leaving him to foot the bills/rent. Otherwise you can't just dump him because you don't like him. On the other hand, if he starts not paying his way.....no bother.

Pinker

shoegirl wrote: »

Sorry mate but he has rights. He can't be dumped out just because you don't like him. I can sympathize as I've lived with loads of psychos....but in all honesty, they were far more extreme....such as not paying rent/bills on time (or at all) or being really filthy in the extreme.

Have a chat with him and tell him you guys are not happy with him. To be honest your only bet here is to threaten to move out, leaving him to foot the bills/rent. Otherwise you can't just dump him because you don't like him. On the other hand, if he starts not paying his way.....no bother.

....Yeah maybe honesty is the way to go....As regards the legalities of it all I have looked into it, and have been advised that he doesn't have that many rights as such, I am entitled to tell him to leave without having to give him a reason. And nor do I have to give a notice period of 4 weeks although I will do this anyway.

Canis Lupus

Just be nice, say it isn't working out and you're unlikely to have any issues.

Personally I'd just set his bedroom on fire and smoke him out.

Mazeire

Pinker wrote: »

....Yeah maybe honesty is the way to go....As regards the legalities of it all I have looked into it, and have been advised that he doesn't have that many rights as such, I am entitled to tell him to leave without having to give him a reason. And nor do I have to give a notice period of 4 weeks although I will do this anyway.

Are you certain about that? I mean yeah thats all fair enough if you own the property but from what i gather you dont, you're just the only one who lives there who's name happens to be on the lease. That is very murky waters. A few years back, a friend of mine rented a room in an apt. The apt was being let by a property managment agency and the two girls who lived there when she moved in had there names on the lease and my friend got her name put on the lease. So all was well for 6 months until the two girls suddenly had to go home to Spain pretty quick due to a family emergency. They agreed to find two new flatmates for my friend as it was pretty much them who were leaving her in the lurch so they found two brazilian girls to move in and they headed home. The two new girls proved to be a nightmare so my friend decided to leave. She tried to get someone new to move in but the other two kept finding fault with the new people as they wanted the room for a friend of theirs who wouldn't be in Ireland for 2 months. My friend couldn't hack it anymore and decided to go and rang the property managment agency to explain and get her deposit. The agency flipped as there was two complete strangers living in the house not on the lease who could thrash the place and the agency would have no come back. My friend lost her deposit and the other two girls got kicked out and also lost their deposits as they were in fact kiving there illegally. The agency wanted details for the two girls in Spain to get solicitors on to them but my friend refused to let them know where they were. You cant sublet without a landlords permission. Just the same way you cant evict people without a landlords permission either. So you may very well be stuck with him.

kowloon

Just curious, what would "seriously inept social skills" mean.
I say this as that could mean anything from your flatmate not appreciating your music to your flatmate carving the name of his favorite serial killer into his arm with the sharpened end of a toothbrush, theres a broad spectrum.
If hes the latter you may want to consider a more tactful approach than "feck off, we dont like you":D.

AARRRGH

As long as he's been there for less than six months you can give him his notice.

Very difficult situation. I also sublet a room in my apartment. Even though the adverts for the room are extremely specific, people lie and turn out to be awful weirdos.

Personally I don't think socially enept is a good enough reason to kick someone out of their home. But that's just me...

I would try to think of an excuse rather than telling him the truth. You're just gonna hurt his feelings otherwise...

the_syco

"seriously inept social skills, seriously inept"... the type of ineptness of, ooooooo, just moving to a new country, and not knowing wtf to do over here? America is completely different, and from the Americans I've lived with, Ireland can be a bit weird (esp as it's "popular" to hate yanks) to live in.

BaZmO*

the_syco wrote: »

"seriously inept social skills, seriously inept"... the type of ineptness of, ooooooo, just moving to a new country, and not knowing wtf to do over here? America is completely different, and from the Americans I've lived with, Ireland can be a bit weird (esp as it's "popular" to hate yanks) to live in.

That's irrelevant though. Regardless of the reasons why the OP gave as to why he doesn't want the new lodger living there it's up to him who he wants there. If he doesn't like the guy (for whatever reason) he should just ask him to leave. Just making an excuse like his brother/friend is back from travelling and needs somewhere to stay.

LegacyUser

Ill tell you how I was kicked out by two frenchies yrs ago, I hold no ill will towards them, cute hoors they were...

They went to the landlord and explained due to cultural issues we werent getting on and they would take the lease themselves and fill the other rooms, I didnt know anythign about this..

Landlord had a letter for each of us including the two frenchies sent to us asking us all to vacate by the end of the month as he was refurbishing the house, So we all 'left'

I rang the house 2 months later by accident, guess who answered the phone... the frenchies, yup


They thought I was weird! they were brother and sister and they shared a room...