Permanent ban for 2 Offenses?

Rozie

I was threatened with this on the broadband forums. Not to mention being banned for two weeks when I DESPERATELY needed a broadband solution(and was also a prime contributor to the 3 fiasco on that subforum).

Am I the only one that realise how utterly ****ing insane this is? And the mods, of course, themselves, are allowed get away with murder. Nobody's who's "happy" to dish out a ban should be a moderator to begin with. Again, am I the only one who realises this obvious truth?

It's just wrong on so many levels. This place is little more than a safehaven for the control freak. If I prove I have a completely black and white world view; poor judgement, and only focus on when people are insulting other mods(Deservedly) or disagreeing with me, can I be a mod too?

Boards.ie without a doubt one of the strictest boards I've EVER encountered online. There are stricter ones but that's no excuse. Do ye really think being strict benefits the members? I should be allowed to talk back to the mods if I think they're being asshats. You're removing any level of accountability they have, which ALWAYS leads to corruption. When the **** did the Irish become such nazis?

RuggieBear

Rozie wrote: »

Do ye really think being strict benefits the members?

yes

Crucifix

Depends what the offenses are I would say.

Rozie

RuggieBear wrote: »

yes

Then how come many newsgroups manage to flourish with no moderation whatsoever? And many forums are considerably less strict than this? Would you to back up your reasoning, or are you as completely incompetent as the rest of the mods seem to be?

Strictness doesn't get rid of trolls. The whole point of a troll is that they bend the rules. Only a logical system, not a rule based one deals with trolls, and is also a lot fairer on genuinely upset members.

Plus I've been VERY good recently. This isn't a nice way to encourage good behaviour.

CuLT

In before lolcats and various attempts by people to actually have a debate.

Rozie

Crucifix wrote: »

Depends what the offenses are I would say.

Well, yeah, it does depend on context. But this is for ANY offense. The first was for telling a mod to "**** off, honestly", as you would just about anyone who's being a bit annoying down the pub.

But the godly mods are above that. There shouldn't be a "moderator" abuse any more than there is a member abuse. I honestly do get the feeling they'd look for reasons, no matter what. They feel if they aren't banning people, they aren't doing their job. They're morons.

Rozie

CuLT wrote: »

In before lolcats and various attempts by people to actually have a debate.

lolcats just proves what **** mods some of you are, honestly. You can't even keep the ****ing feedback forum clean. There's just no pleasure in getting all authoritarian with someone posting cat pics.

CuLT

I know, it's a travesty.

Rozie

CuLT wrote: »

I know, it's a travesty.

Oh, what a professional attitude you have.

Gadzooks! Someone has just pointed out a fatal flaw in our integrity as a moderating community. I know, let's make light of that problem! A winner in every situation!

Time Magazine

I grind my teeth. It's frustrating so, but I know it'd be a waste of time to respond.

Admins, I feel sorry for you.

CuLT

Rozie wrote: »

Oh, what a professional attitude you have.

Gadzooks! Someone has just pointed out a fatal flaw in our integrity as a moderating community. I know, let's make light of that problem! A winner in every situation!

Myself and many other staff are truly distressed by the mental torture wrought unto your good person by moderators such as "Cabaal" (really, what sort of a name is that anyway? Why the very word means clique!), but we are endeavouring to resolve this internally.

There are massive power struggles going on within the depths of our professional boards.ie lives, if the shareholders found out we'd be in serious trouble so please don't tell them we are fighting on your behalf and that of the silent millions of oppressed users.

GhostInTheRuins

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055164903

You posted a thread in broadband to moan about how much you hate the country and how depressed and lonley you are . - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=127

Huggles

Waheeeeeeeeeey Rozie Feedback.

*gets the popcorn and settles down. :rolleyes:

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

Plus I've been VERY good recently. This isn't a nice way to encourage good behaviour.

Good behaviour is not something that we have to encourage, it is something that everyone should be showing.

When the **** did the Irish become such nazis?

Oh shut up.

muffler

Rozie wrote: »

Plus I've been VERY good recently.

So you openly admit that you havent been very good in the past?

Just because you dont get your way you feel the urge to condemn anyone and everyone who gives their time voluntarily to ensure the vast majority of people enjoy themselves here.

Why dont you just start your own discussion forum and do whatever the hell you want on that.

Moriarty

First of all, link to the thread in question. ->

Rozie wrote: »

I was threatened with this on the broadband forums. Not to mention being banned for two weeks when I DESPERATELY needed a broadband solution(and was also a prime contributor to the 3 fiasco on that subforum).

Maybe you should have considered which was more important to you then: shouting your mouth off at someone cleaning up a thread or getting assistance with your desperately urgent broadband problem.

Rozie wrote: »

<insert generic rozie rant about all mods being powermad nazis>

.. Uh-huh..

Rozie wrote: »

Plus I've been VERY good recently. This isn't a nice way to encourage good behaviour.

If you want a cookie for every time you don't break the rules perhaps you'd feel more comfortable in pre-school rather than university? Seriously, the last time I heard someone come out with a line like that they still had baby teeth. Grow up.

Rozie wrote: »

Well, yeah, it does depend on context. But this is for ANY offense. The first was for telling a mod to "**** off, honestly", as you would just about anyone who's being a bit annoying down the pub.

If you came up to me in the pub and made me listen to ten minutes of how your life is so **** (which is what you did in the thread on the broadband forum as we pretty much have to read each post) and then ask me for an opinion on which broadband service to go for I'd probably be too stunned to reply, never mind say anything else. If you want help with broadband, post in the broadband forum about your broadband issue. If you want to discuss the ins and outs of life in Ireland, try after hours or humanities. That should be pretty clear to anyone here.

Rozie wrote: »

But the godly mods are above that. There shouldn't be a "moderator" abuse any more than there is a member abuse. I honestly do get the feeling they'd look for reasons, no matter what. They feel if they aren't banning people, they aren't doing their job. They're morons.

By banning you we've allowed the rest of the broadband forum's community to carry on without having to listen to you. The system works!

You're not doing your job of posting at the intelligence level of someone over the age of 5. You're a moron. SO WHAT IF I KICKED YOU? IF I DON'T GET MY POCKET MONEY NOW I'M GOING TO HOLD MY BREATH UNTIL I DIE. Wah wah wah.

Rozie

Ibid wrote: »

I grind my teeth. It's frustrating so, but I know it'd be a waste of time to respond.

Admins, I feel sorry for you.

You are one twisted person.

You feel sorry for the admins who are in complete and utter control of the situation and blatantly enjoy this fact; and not the person trying to defend themselves with no power at all?

CuLT wrote: »

Myself and many other staff are truly distressed by the mental torture

Oh, you can **** off too. Once again you prove that you're a complete muppet who can only mock someone and don't have the intelligence to debate an issue seriously. Do you think it makes you look clever? Well, given the intelligence of your general audience, it probably does...

You're trying to cover up the fact that someone did something wrong with this DISTRESSED crap. They still did something wrong, and so did you.

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055164903

You posted a thread in broadband to moan about how much you hate the country and how depressed and lonley you are . - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=127

I posted a story on my ****ty experience with broadband in Ireland, and asked for a solution to this problem, if there was some new package I hadn't heard of.

Gordon wrote: »

Good behaviour is not something that we have to encourage, it is something that everyone should be showing.

Unfortunately, you don't measure "Good behaviour" by a logical or utilitarian standard but by a bunch of rules you pull out of your ass.

It equally cracks me up and disturbs me when mods think that their simplistic, black and white rules are a genuine measure for good behaviour.

For instance, I have very bad aspergers and difficulty in frustration/general loss of control in online arguments is one of the ways in which in manifests itself. I've known others with AS that get themselves banned. People with AS, are, in general, unable to follow the same social cues and rules as everyone else, so are often more likely to get banned.

So why am I, even after relating this fact to you, still held to the same standard as everyone else? How is that fair? You can't say "We're not banning you for AS, others with AS are not banned", because that's failing to take into account that it's a behavioural thing, and that it's a spectrum, it doesn't have one specific symptom. You are, whether you realise it or not, discriminating against me not just based on my views, but based on my own difficulty in communicating despite my better grasp of logic.

But your ****ty rule-based system can't take that into account, either way. You can't comprehend the idea of dealing with situations on an individual basis. It's nothing to do with time, just how good your moderation staff is.

Oh shut up.

Fabulous reasoning there.

Rozie

And also - everyone's getting away from the point of the thread(which is no doubt intended, since they know they can't come up with a good answer) -

A permanent ban for two offenses, any two offenses is absolutely unforgivably ridiculous.

RuggieBear

i'd have banned you permanently for telling me to **** off. one offence.

besides there is absolutely no point arguing with you. You don't listen to anyone or take any genuine advice on board.

Huggles

Rozie wrote: »

For instance, I have very bad aspergers and difficulty in frustration/general loss of control in online arguments is one of the ways in which in manifests itself. I've known others with AS that get themselves banned. People with AS, are, in general, unable to follow the same social cues and rules as everyone else, so are often more likely to get banned.

So why am I, even after relating this fact to you, still held to the same standard as everyone else? How is that fair.

You want special treatment?

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

A permanent ban for two offenses, any two offenses is absolutely unforgivably ridiculous.

Stop pulling facts out of your posterior orifice dude.

Cabaal wrote: »

Rozie banned from broadband for two weeks for abuse against a mod, thread locked

Rozie, are you saying that you should get special treatment because you have aspergers?

Rozie

TheGooner wrote: »

You want special treatment?

I love this. I love how actually taking into account someone's situation becomes "Special treatment".

I want the mods to mod with their heads, and not their dicks.

i'd have banned you permanently for telling me to **** off.

Then you're a corrupt piece of **** who can't handle any level of notable confronation. Your twisted, ass-brained ethics don't justify the action I'm complaining about.

besides there is absolutely no point arguing with you. You don't listen to anyone or take any genuine advice on board.

I don't listen to anyone because they never back their statements with a shread on logic. I don't "set out" to do that, and if I "seem" that way, again, it's an AS thing, but I don't think I do. Why should I take advice from people who tend to only mock my posts and never listen to anything *I* have to say?

Jack B. Badd

Rozie wrote: »

If I prove I have a completely black and white world view; poor judgement...

If? You have proved that you have a completely black and white world view and poor judgment. And you whine incessantly.
Why are you still using this forum when you have frequently found that it is too strict and Nazi-like (your own words) for your uniquely sensitive personality? It's like bashing your head against a brick wall. It hurts each time and yet you never learn not to do it...

Rozie

Gordon wrote: »

Stop pulling facts out of your posterior orifice dude.

Dear Rozie,

You have received an infraction at boards.ie.

Reason: Insulted Other Member(s)

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You've been banned for the broadband forum for 2 weeks due to abuse against a mod, this ban is not open to discussion.

Further abuse will result in a permanent ban

Have a nice day
Cabaal

PS: PM me in two weeks time if you want to be unbanned,

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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.



"Abuse" can be anything that mod decides on, and has been in the past.

Rozie, are you saying that you should get special treatment because you have aspergers?

Read the above post. Though it makes me very angry that you even put it like that. It is a behavioural issue which makes communication very difficult and frustating for me. You just ignore that and see it as a random disability that I'm looking for special treatment for.

This is exactly why you people piss me off. You never look at anything laterally.

challengemaster

tbh I'm surprised you havent been perma SITE banned for the amount of people you tell to **** off. Seriously, I thought this site had some kind of rules? or can I just go around and tell people to **** off too if I like it.. hey lets try that idea shall we

RuggieBear

my lack of reasoning must be my autism...

or is it my dyslexia....


or is it my depression....


or is it the result of too many blows to the head playing rugby....

Boston

I agree, Moriarty is just being a bollix. What you need to do is send him lots of private messages and threaten to kick the **** out of him. It always works a charm.

*sits back and continues to stir my the ****e with me cock*

Rozie

Jack B. Badd wrote: »

If? You have proved that you have a completely black and white world view and poor judgment. And you whine incessantly.

Where? Please quote where I have demonstrated this.

Doing things by clear cut rules instead of logically analysing each situation like I'm encouraging is an example of "black and white" thinking. Rule is broken, rule is not. There is no way in hell I have a black and white worldview compared to this board.

Why are you still using this forum when you have frequently found that it is too strict and Nazi-like (your own words) for your uniquely sensitive personality?

Because there isn't an alternative. "The" Broadband forum is here. There is a monopoly. This is why the PRIVATE PROPERTY argument is bull****. If you have a monopoly, you should show some responsibility. People are sheepish and don't tell to join new forums just for the sake of it.

I wouldn't call my personality "uniquely" sensitive given that you get several complaints a week.

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

I love this. I love how actually taking into account someone's situation becomes "Special treatment".

I want the mods to mod with their heads, and not their dicks.

Special treatment means that one receives treatment different to the normal treatment given to others. Mods on boards will always try to treat all users equally. If this is not the case then you should take your problem here or to the helpdesk as you did. In this case, I believe that you received proper treatment.

I can't recall mods here modding with their dicks. Can you please point to one case where a mod has modded with their dick?

Then you're a corrupt piece of **** who can't handle any level of notable confronation. Your twisted, ass-brained ethics don't justify the action I'm complaining about.

Insulting people isn't nice. You have a habit of insulting people.

I don't listen to anyone because they never back their statements with a shread on logic. I don't "set out" to do that, and if I "seem" that way, again, it's an AS thing, but I don't think I do.

You don't listen to anyone? You should learn to listen, it will extend your stay on boards.

Why should I take advice from people who tend to only mock my posts and never listen to anything *I* have to say?

How can you take advice from people when you aren't listening to them?

Rozie

RuggieBear wrote: »

my lack of reasoning must be my autism...

or is it my dyslexia....


or is it my depression....


or is it the result of too many blows to the head playing rugby....

Aspergers actually DOES cause behaviour like I'm describing, if you google a list of symptoms. Your writing it off as an excuse is pathetic, and doesn't disprove the point I was trying to make by using that, that clear cut rules don't work, either way.

You will never accept this. You have no will to understand other people's situations, and the hell I go through on forums like this.

aidan_walsh

Gordon wrote:

Rozie, are you saying that you should get special treatment because you have aspergers?

No, she wants special treatment because she's **** with other people and thinks she's better than everyone.

But then, thats the same thing, isn't it...

Rozie

challengemaster wrote: »

tbh I'm surprised you havent been perma SITE banned for the amount of people you tell to **** off. Seriously, I thought this site had some kind of rules? or can I just go around and tell people to **** off too if I like it.. hey lets try that idea shall we

What if all those people deserved to be told to **** off? Again, you demonstrate a very simplistic way of thinking.

Huggles

you just said youy have aspergers and asked why your held in the same regard as everyone else. Hence looking for special treatment.

Jesus wept!

Are you proposing that the admins keep a database of all boardsies medical issues?

Huggles

Rozie wrote: »

the hell I go through on forums like this.

I would suggest you stop posting in forums altogether and get treatment for your Aspergers.

oleras

CuLT wrote: »

I know, it's a travesty.

CATastrophe.......;)

OP, i dont think boards suits you, you should not let yourself get worked up, assburger syndrome or whatever you call it, if something made me this mad i would not want to revisit it. Why put yourself under strain ? Life is too short.

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

What if all those people deserved to be told to **** off? Again, you demonstrate a very simplistic way of thinking.

What if it's only you that thinks that they should be told to **** off? You demonstrate an extremely selfish and unempathic way of thinking.

Nevyn

cabaal wrote:

Rozie PM me in two weeks if you want to be unbanned but be warned that further abuse will earn you a permanent ban.

You are not pembanned you are only banned for two weeks.

You were abusive,
the guts of your post was off topic and you did not follow mod direction egro you were banned from two weeks and told that if you continued with such behaviour you could earn yourself a permban.

Rozie

Gordon wrote: »

Special treatment means that one receives treatment different to the normal treatment given to others. Mods on boards will always try to treat all users equally. If this is not the case then you should take your problem here or to the helpdesk as you did. In this case, I believe that you received proper treatment.

I can't recall mods here modding with their dicks. Can you please point to one case where a mod has modded with their dick?

Modding with their dick means they do it for the rush of it. In that PM i pasted, it's clear he's enjoying having control over a situation.

Though in general, mods here mod with anything but their brain.

Insulting people isn't nice. You have a habit of insulting people.

That's an oversimplification. What if the people deserved to be insulted? What if insulting someone isn't that bad a thing?

You're just proving that the mod staff here and it's supporters think in very, very simplistic terms.

You don't listen to anyone? You should learn to listen, it will extend your stay on boards.

Why should I listen to people who don't back their words with logic? Almost every reply in this thread has it's point in a single line statement format. There's never a "Why this is true". There never is.

How can you take advice from people when you aren't listening to them?

They have nothing worth saying. I listen to thinks that are BACKED by REASONING. "It's the rules", "act this way or else" is very anti-thesis to critical thinking.

Rozie

Thaedydal wrote: »

You are not pembanned you are only banned for two weeks.

Did you even read the original post of this thread? No. This proves you don't pay attention to what I say; only what you want to see me saying.

You were abusive,
the guts of your post was off topic and you did not follow mod direction egro you were banned from two weeks and told that if you continued with such behaviour you could earn yourself a permban.

But I found the mod in question to be abusive. Who's going to care about that? What if my "abuse" was deserved? Like if I were to point out what a pretentious little wanker you can be for constantly upholding this forum has any level of professionalism?

What if I'm right? What if there's a reason people might need insulting?

Nobody has answered this question.

Fysh

Rozie wrote: »

A permanent ban for two offenses, any two offenses is absolutely unforgivably ridiculous.

Nope, not really. Outside of a given context, it's hard to say anything as subjective as "unforgivably ridiculous" about such a ban. Of course, it's been established through the fine tradition of car-crash entertainment that are your Feedback threads that your context is generally "anything where I don't get my way == WEREWOLF MODS OF THE SS!". Now, in that context, sure, the ban is "unforgivably ridiculous".

However.

In a context of "plenty of people, including plenty of mods and possibly quite a few people higher up in the food chain, are tired of dealing with your whingeing and constant failure to understand that concepts like 'fairness' do not necessarily apply within the realm of boards.ie in the way that you would like", the ban becomes a simple way of dealing with someone annoying.

Having a condition that makes communication and discussion more difficult, however, is not an excuse to ignore the rules and basically go off on expletive-laden rants when you're confronted with something you don't like. People bait you and that's low behaviour; however, you've established that you'll happily rail for ages in the style of the "F*ck you, I won't tidy my bedroom" teenager brigade when given half a chance, and you don't seem to understand that there's no real reason any of the rest of us should be subjected to this. Boards.ie is not publicly owned communal space; get over it or find somewhere less restrictive to frequent - if you keep finding all these more liberally-moderated sites to hang out on, just go and post there instead.

...

Damnit, I'm trying to reason with Rozie again. Clearly I've been on the internet too much lately.

Edited to add:

BWAHAAHAHAHA! Rozie, fearless arbiter of those who "deserve to be insulted/abused!" Despite also having railed against those who insult her for whatever reason! As rubbernecking entertainment, this thread delivers....

Huggles

Rozie wrote: »

They have nothing worth saying. I listen to thinks that are BACKED by REASONING. "It's the rules", "act this way or else" is very anti-thesis to critical thinking.

Imo your thinking is flawed. (one line oooooh!)

GhostInTheRuins

Rozie wrote: »

I posted a story on my ****ty experience with broadband in Ireland, and asked for a solution to this problem, if there was some new package I hadn't heard of.

Right, because all these are relevant to broadband coverage:

rozie wrote:

my Dad will do **** all. He'll go after the last place because I had some food taken, he's serious about legal action

rozie wrote:

Stupid ****ers all of them. I just feel like strangling someone now. I am sick of this **** country

rozie wrote:

I have an FYP and my brain only tends to wake up at night

rozie wrote:

No to mention my "Issues", including Aspergers among other things mean I get this horrible depressing lonely feeling going back to somewhere where I can't connect with people. It's making me more and more depressed and I'm reaching breaking point and nobody will do anything for me.

In fairness, you should have been banned for telling the forum mod to **** off. Just accept it ffs.

Boston

Thaedydal wrote: »

You are not pembanned you are only banned for two weeks.

You were abusive,
the guts of your post was off topic and you did not follow mod direction egro you were banned from two weeks and told that if you continued with such behaviour you could earn yourself a permban.

You are your clear rational arguments/logic, begone from this thread I says...

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

They have nothing worth saying. I listen to thinks that are BACKED by REASONING. "It's the rules", "act this way or else" is very anti-thesis to critical thinking.

The rules have been established due to reasons and situations occuring in the past. They have history and they have reasoning.

Rules = Reasoning.

CuLT

ED wrote:

Some close-knit communities of people, such as furries, plushies, Quakers, Jews, white people and otherkin, possess such distorted views of reality as to be particularly susceptible to believe their ostracization is due to victimization by outside factors, and will not infrequently claim to have Asperger's or be Autistic en masse, often finding some way to tie its manifestations into the fact that they are social misfits, frequently complete assholes and fail at proper expression of affection. In certain of these instances, having "Asperger's" seems to be correlated with the posting of disgusting and semi-nude pictures of yourself frequently on the internet and local AIDS awareness seminars, or writing highly disturbed fanfiction. Additionally, it is not unheard of for these individuals to claim multiple, even incompatible diagnoses of a plethora of diseases -- possibly claiming anorexia, ADHD, autism, Asperger's, schizophrenia, OCD, and anything else they've ever read about or seen on CSI.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Aspergers

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

What if I'm right?

You are not.

What if there's a reason people might need insulting?

There is not.

Nobody has answered this question.

I just did.

Rozie

Gordon wrote: »

What if it's only you that thinks that they should be told to **** off? You demonstrate an extremely selfish and unempathic way of thinking.

I'm so sorry for not taking into account the feelings of the mods who are having a right laugh being able to remove people who oppose them at will. Seriously, what the ****? You really are pulling these out of your ass now.

I'm not the one imposing my will on others. I'm not the one ganging up and bullying someone who disagrees with my policy. Those actions are vastly beyond insulting someone for being a dick. If I'm extremely "selfish and unempathetic", then I hate to think what, by your logic, this forum would be.

Plus, I have an excuse, since seeming "selfish and unempathic" is an Aspergers thing.

Again, why do you not take this into account? If anyone had bothered to analyse the way I act, they could see my immense difficulty and frustration communicating. They don't care. They only care about their ****ty little rules.

Rozie

D.T. Jesus wrote: »

Right, because all these are relevant to broadband coverage:

Erm, so? I was upset. What's wrong with that? The body of my post was still on topic.

In fairness, you should have been banned for telling the forum mod to **** off. Just accept it ffs.

Thank you for showing, in a nutshell, why I think you're all ****wits.

"Just accept it ffs"

The definition of lack of reason.

I should have been. Just accept it. This is what you're all thinking, and this is why you're all probably wrong. Not just because "I say so" - you're the ones with that philosophy, not me. I've just given an actual reason as to why I might be right.

Rozie

Gordon wrote: »

You are not.

There is not.


I just did.

So; you are a complete dumb**** incapable of a logical defense, who actually gets off on blatantly unbacked statements?

So I should probably ignore your posts from now on.

And that was definitely a deserved insult. Pushing a completely unbacked argument as fact to a member that's already being bullied isn't right.

Huggles

Rozie wrote: »

Plus, I have an excuse, since seeming "selfish and unempathic" is an Aspergers thing.

Again, why do you not take this into account? If anyone had bothered to analyse the way I act, they could see my immense difficulty and frustration communicating. They don't care. They only care about their ****ty little rules.

So you do want special treatment?

Gordon

Rozie wrote: »

Plus, I have an excuse, since seeming "selfish and unempathic" is an Aspergers thing.

Again, why do you not take this into account? If anyone had bothered to analyse the way I act, they could see my immense difficulty and frustration communicating. They don't care. They only care about their ****ty little rules.

I personally am a very sensitive, empathic and selfless person. That's my excuse. I think that there are a lot of mods out there like me too. If they don't want you swearing blindly and comparing boards to Nazis then why should they be ignored?